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roup 'mail control area' is only for knowing what to send down stream. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 673 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/27/93 8:36a Subj: about 30 to 60 GMD Same N Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sat 27, 1994 Hello Boyd, After killing the same bundle(s) of 30-60 GMD NetMailed messages for the last weeks, this morning they came back in again. Please correct this. The GMD messages aren't even ment for my system or systems I feed. Yesterday's GMD summary over part of information received from 3650 * 07:0 :48 Summary: * 07:06:48 7 Suppressed inform messages * 07:06:48 7 ORIGIN has characters after final ")" * 07:06:48 7 ORIGIN line has illegal character * 07:06:48 11 ORIGIN line has invalid format * 07:06:48 44 ORIGIN line too long * 07:06:48 1 Too many ORIGIN lines * 07:06:48 4 Zone missing on ORIGIN line Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 674 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/27/93 11:15a Subj: about 30 to 60 GMD Same N Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sat 27, 1994 Hello Boyd, After killing the same bundle(s) of 30-60 GMD NetMailed messages for the last weeks, this morning they came back in again. Please correct this. The GMD messages aren't even ment for my system or systems I feed. Yesterday's GMD summary over part of information received from 3650 * 07:0 :48 Summary: * 07:06:48 7 Suppressed inform messages * 07:06:48 7 ORIGIN has characters after final ")" * 07:06:48 7 ORIGIN line has illegal character * 07:06:48 11 ORIGIN line has invalid format * 07:06:48 44 ORIGIN line too long * 07:06:48 1 Too many ORIGIN lines * 07:06:48 4 Zone missing on ORIGIN line After receiving the daily bundles, back they were again, another 60 or so, identical GMD Netmail messages. Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 675 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/28/93 6:02a Subj: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons, in a message to John Bierrie, you wrote: > deal in eliminating much of the "touchyness". BTW... we generally have > 3 - 4 windows open at a time (2 line board, "PC" and whatever I'm doing) > and the system really does seem to run ok... TL> <green with envy> Todd, Two things... "Ok" is a relative term I use as I am satisfied with the way things are running, others might not be. Secondly since I have so much I need to learn, which you aparently know (Internet/Usegroups, etc.) I'm far more envious of you! :-)!! John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 676 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/28/93 6:16a Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons, in a message to Jacobo Oduber, you wrote: TL> Freq me for WAFFLE (magic name) or WAF*.* (might get TL> something else too :) and get these: TL> WAF165 ARJ 507098 04-01-93 6:02a TL> WAFINFO ZIP 2827 11-25-93 11:51a TL> Freq's welcome 24 hours/day, 1:3807/401 (Hayes) or TL> 1:3807/402 (USR Sportster) both at 14.4 V.32bis. Unlisted TL> freq's welcome. Todd, Know it or not, this week's nodelist does NOT have ANY 1:3807/4## systems in it at all. You are listed at 1:3807/100 and /104 though...:-) John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 677 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/26/93 7:59p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Jacobo Oduber <=- TB> Jacobo Oduber wrote in a message to John Bierrie: JO> Even been running hyperdisk on the system to improve the JO> tossing performance without any major problems under JO> desqview. TB> I would really like to run the whole show on a ram disk. I don't TB> like my _expensive_ hard drive coming on and going off every TB> second. You can say that for sure, that woud definatelly be saving our hard disks, but I gues you can't win em all. I was think about setting up up the buffer file !!!st!!!.!!! to my ram disk, but there is no real setting for doing this to for example drive J: which could be your RAM disk. Like this we could have ALL the files come to RAM and when completely received, it just moves it from RAM to the Harddisk. One utility I liked a lot on the older dos versions was combi.sys, this was a combined ramdisk/harddisk cache. It used to work great on dos 3.3 I don't know if they have an update for dos 6.x. anyways c'yall later jacobo oduber - coming to you from sunny Aruba - Dutch Caribbean. ... Mary had a little RAM -- only about a MEG or so. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS coming to you from sunny Aruba!! (1:18/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 678 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/26/93 8:03p Subj: Re: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Todd Lyons to Jacobo Oduber <=- > I am interested in what files/programs I would need to handle the > PCUSENET files on our system here. Can you supply any information on > this. TL> Freq me for WAFFLE (magic name) or WAF*.* (might get something else TL> too :) and get these: TL> WAF165 ARJ 507098 04-01-93 6:02a TL> WAFINFO ZIP 2827 11-25-93 11:51a TL> 2 file(s) 509925 bytes Will do, thanks a lot i'll be trying them this weekend. ttyl Jacobo oduber - Sysop H.O.T. Beach BBS, Aruba ... Line noise provided by SETAR, the Aruban Telephone Company! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS coming to you from sunny Aruba!! (1:18/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 679 To: JOE LYDA Date: 11/26/93 9:51p Subj: Re: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting JOE LYDA to JACOBO ODUBER <=- JO> Jacob Oduber JO> sysop H.O.T. Beach BBS Aruba 1:18/21 JL> Well I do not know how to answere you not knowing what type JL> system, BBS software, etc.. However I will supply wgat I have We're running RA1.11+ but just got WILDCAT 3.9 and will probably be switching over to that real soon now. The limitations of the HMB and YAM don't let us take full advantage of Plannet Connect's feeds. JL> I am going to run WCUUCP, from Mustang Software Will try to get some info on that package. JL> Also WildUUCP from OCR is suppost to be a great program to handle JL> Internet mail. JL> I always order something too close to hollidays and it gets JL> delayed. At least you won't be spending your holidays debugging I guess. ttyl Jacobo Oduber - sysop H.O.T. Beach BBS, Aruba - Of course we're on the windy side of the Dutch Caribbean so grab your windsurf boards it's 80F outside :-) ... Not tonight, dear. I have a modem. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS coming to you from sunny Aruba!! (1:18/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 680 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/26/93 8:19p Subj: Re: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Dan Williamson to Jacobo Oduber <=- JO> I am interested in what files/programs I would need to JO> handle the PCUSENET files on our system here. DW> You should probably use FRED19Q.ARJ as the simplest (most robust) DW> implementation of a gateway that I've seen. Waffle is great if you DW> want full Newsgroup format do you now were this file is available? DW> If you have problems I and DW> others may be able to pull you over the rough spots you run across. Will let you know, thanks for the help ttyl Jacob ... Docs? Why would I want to look at the Docs. Nurses are better :) --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS coming to you from sunny Aruba!! (1:18/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 681 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/28/93 4:25a Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> Heck I stopped using that 3 days ago. When are you guys > BG> tossing your mail? > > GS> THere were GMD messages in yesterdays mail...... > > And again today...... Read carefully Greg. Those are Qmail logs, not GMD stats. QM logs I can handle. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 682 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 11/28/93 11:12a Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TL> Freq's welcome 24 hours/day, 1:3807/401 (Hayes) or > TL> 1:3807/402 (USR Sportster) both at 14.4 V.32bis. Unlisted > TL> freq's welcome. > > in today's nodelist, there does not exist a 1:3807/400, I tried at your > listing at 100, but had no luck. if you have internet can you send me I apologize for that. The timing of this was incredibly poor. The reason your freq failed was because I hadn't defined my new AKA yet. I have it on hold here for you. > the text in the setup stuff to > vandell@ds9.raider.net No, I don't have an internet account. The local college here has one but they're having problems. They're not UNIX, they run VM and the interface they use is called Music and it's not quite working right: CLOSE, but not right yet. They aren't handing out accounts just yet. I'm trying though. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 683 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 11/28/93 11:15a Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JL>Well Todd, I am in Tullahoma TN and am looking to get a > JL>connect > JL>to someone in Tennessee to gate through. > Joe, you can probably gate thru us when we get it all up and going. Others too? See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 684 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/28/93 12:46p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > GS> THere were GMD messages in yesterdays mail...... BG> > And again today...... BG> BG> I know Greg. We have found the problem and the systems is BG> working on it. BG> P.S. Get your receiver?? Yup.....did you get my netmail? :) greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 685 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/28/93 10:19a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> > What is the scoop on the weather maps? I need to start allowing my BG> users BG> > access to them. BG> BG> Still waiting for the cpompany that supplies us with it to BG> set thier rate. As soon as this is done I will let you know. Ok, thanks. Who exactly creates these maps? Are they from the National Weather Service originally? I hope they decide soon, because it's been quite a while since they were promised to us. My users and I are getting a little edgy. --- GEcho 1.01+NOMORETG! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 686 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 11/27/93 10:15p Subj: PLANET CONNECT ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No George Peace wrote in a message to Jason Fesler: ~~ GP> Where did this information come from? I've been involved GP> with the backbone a little for a few years. I hear this GP> story occasionally but I still don't understand it. The people in FDECHO. But I'd be more willing to take your word or Bob's any day. ;-) Jason Fesler jfesler@wmeonlin.sacbbx.com --- timEd-A11a * Origin: Net 203 Services (1:203/7707.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 687 To: ALL Date: 11/27/93 6:29p Subj: Status report on the dish Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No STATUS REPORT ON THE SATELLITE DISH For those who did not have the pleasure of stopping by Dan Dimick's place today, this will serve as a synopsis of what occurred. Yesterday (Friday) the frame of the 10 foot Paraclipse dish was assembled and the mounting pipe was installed on the roof. Today the mesh reflector of the dish was installed (using somewhere around 400 clips to accomplish the task, hence the slang name for the dish: "pile of clips"). Following that, the support arms for the feed horn were assembled and attached to the dish. Then, finally, the azimuth-elevation mount subassembly that connects the vertical pipe on the roof to the dish was assembled and attached to the dish. The troops in attendance were all gathered and the dish was "lofted" onto the roof. About 5 of us jockeyed the dish around (with some trepidation on the angled roof) and installed the dish onto its pipe support. It was then that we realized that no actuator arm came with the system. The actuator arm is required to adjust the elevation angle of the dish. Dan and I made a dash to the hardware store to see if we could jury rig something. Alas, it was not possible. Thus, we must wait until tomorrow while someone builds up a actuator/elevation arm. Following the installation of the arm will come the installation of a guy wire system to provided additional support in windy conditions. Once those two jobs are completed, we can install the feed horn onto the dish itself, running the cable to the receiver and get locked into the satellite. Then data will start coming down from the bird. Tonight Dan is going to work on the necessary batch files. In summary, the dish is on the roof and a couple of hours work remain before we can begin receiving data. Thanks to all who attended and thanks also to that who paid up. If you haven't paid into the system and desire to do so, please contact Albert at 105/40. Regards, Poor, cold and tired Richard... --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LARRY JAMES Number: 688 To: ALL Date: 11/28/93 3:55a Subj: Greatings & stuff Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please allow us to interduce meselves... About a dozen or so dedicated sysops here in Net 105 (including meselves) had a party this weekend to erected an r/o ground station to G3 to receive the PC downfeed. As a FileBone HUB, my main interest in PC is the Filebone. Although there are many in Net 105 that were/are involved in file distribution before myself, many of them are now downlinks. As a long time file distribution coordinator and Filebone HUB i'll soon be receiving some great bird feed instead of calling LD for the FileBone files. MORE [Y,n], >>>Larry<<< --- DB 1.54/001249 * Origin: LifeTime Systems * Filebone HUB * 1-503-243-2471 * (1:105/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY HEHN Number: 689 To: JIM WATSON Date: 11/27/93 10:51p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Depending on the messages are based on, might it not be better to -> correct to the software on your end that is causing those messages to -> be generated? At Everybody's getting those messages - not just the offending systems. That seems to be the problem. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f99/c] * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:221/128) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY HEHN Number: 690 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/27/93 10:56p Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Whoa!!! Must use? I loaded PTC1123.ZIP on my system immediately -> after receiving it. For the first time in 45 days since installing -> my PC system it crashed during the first night knocking the -> workstation off of my network! The screen was blank with a blinking -> cursor. I am now running v1009 dependably again. It's been working perfectly here, and seems to have cut down the errors caused by somebody accessing the hard drive on the server that's running ptccmain. I'm not using DV though, if that's what you're doing. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f99/c] * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:221/128) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 691 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 11/28/93 9:53p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You also want what's in the FIDONET.NO. If not, we have a serious > problem. I can only send back what I am turned on for to receive. If I start sending this stuff back to the star it would cause a bit of a problem on his end. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 692 To: DAN DIMICK Date: 11/28/93 9:54p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What about fidonet.no? See my previous message. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 693 To: LISA GRONKE Date: 11/28/93 9:54p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Are you carrying the echos in fidonet.no (the quasi or temporary backbone > list)? > Many of us treat those echos the same as the ones in fidonet.na. Read my previous message to Dave. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 694 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/28/93 9:57p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That isn't a big problem... the problem is when routed netmail is sent to > us and does not arrive and we miss the chance to sell something to pay > our subscription fee for PC. :) As I stated ther is no routed netmail comming back for the star system. If I routed a netmail message from you thru the star you would still have to call your local hub or what ever to pick up any returns. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 695 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 11/28/93 9:58p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Not quite, it is being rerouted back into the system, see my msg in > PCSITES. I hope it is now! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 696 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 11/28/93 9:59p Subj: Re: about 30 to 60 GMD Same N Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > After killing the same bundle(s) of 30-60 GMD NetMailed messages for the > last weeks, this morning they came back in again. Please correct this. > The GMD messages aren't even ment for my system or systems I feed. I think the system that was routing them back got it fixed. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 697 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/28/93 10:00p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> P.S. Get your receiver?? > Yup.....did you get my netmail? :) Which one, and is it working better than the first one? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 698 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 11/28/93 10:01p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Ok, thanks. Who exactly creates these maps? Are they from the National > Weather Service originally? I hope they decide soon, because it's been > quite a while since they were promised to us. My users and I are getting > a little edgy. I am not at liberty to say at the moment and yes they are working on it. Should not me long now.. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 699 To: RUDY HEHN Date: 11/28/93 10:02p Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It's been working perfectly here, and seems to have cut down the errors > caused by somebody accessing the hard drive on the server that's running > ptccmain. I'm not using DV though, if that's what you're doing. Thats what I could not figure out. It would work on some and not on others. I could not duplicate it on any machine I used at the office. There is a 1128 version going over that should put that bug to bed.. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 700 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 11/28/93 9:41p Subj: Sizemail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KK>i dont use frodo or gecho..so i dont really know <grin> KK> ... we're sitting on the oposite sided of the ol fence :) KK>will my mower cut your lawn? <grin> Yeah, but you havta push it, and I ride on mine. :) :) Ah.... Seriously, Ken, I found what I'd missed... It's a built-in option I'd overlooked in the docs. Silly me! --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 701 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 11/27/93 11:00a Subj: Re: Ku in Pacific Northwest Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Richard Bash to All *** RB> Any comments from you Ku banders will be appreciated. Our RB> group is currently breaking into its piggy banks and will be RB> ordering very shortly. Thanks in advance. Hi Richard, I'm in Shawnigan Lake, which is about 40 km outside of Victoria, BC (ya know...up here in Igloo land...Canada!). I ordered a Ku band system from Planet Connect last week. Should be here in a couple of days now. I too struggled with the question of Ku vs C....but after talking with Kevin Battersby in Courtney, BC and another fellow in Nanaimo, BC, they both reported perfect success with Ku in this area. One has since switched to C, but that apparently was only due to a bad receiver. I am told that in our area that we should get a 44db signal from the satellite on Ku. I know little to nothing about this but I've gone with Ku mainly because I don't have room for a 10 foot C dish. I'm hoping it will all work okay....will let you know next week I guess......yikes! Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SARKUTIS URANUS Number: 702 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/18/93 6:53p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Try looking in your satellite inbound area for this: > L:\SKYDATA\SKYINFO\FILEAREA.CUR > Boyd sends it out very regular... Hmmm, I looked all over my L drive and could not find it or the path <teehee>... Since 10-25-93 when I made my satellite server - I have not received a FILEAREA.CUR or FILEAREA.* I just looked to make sure... I remember a while back it used to come across and I made my TIC dir's using it - but mst of those DIR's are empty and my "unknown" area is full of "other" TIC nets/groups/or whatever you call em... A current listing of "real" areas would be kewl! G.E. Ozz Nixon Jr. OTWS&C --- PCBoard Tosser 1.20a * Origin: OTWS&C BBS (615)-634-5050 38,400 ISDN w/ClassAxe.PPE (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SARKUTIS URANUS Number: 703 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/19/93 12:00a Subj: Hello from Bermuda! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Would you happen to have some source to a program (in pascal) that will read inbound PKT's and write out a long ASCII txt file? Or know where I can get my hands on such source? Ozzman... --- PCBoard Tosser 1.20a * Origin: OTWS&C BBS (615)-634-5050 38,400 ISDN w/ClassAxe.PPE (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SYSOP OF HIGHER TECHNOLOGY: 8*14.4K Number: 704 To: DAVID BLUM Date: 11/22/93 9:18a Subj: Re: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No David Blum, Wow... I never expected to see Monroe Wisc on Planet Connect Echo. I don't know if you remember me or not, I was the SYSOP of the Electric Dreams BBS in Freeport IL (just south of you). Although not directly on PC, we get the feed from Ozz here in Chattanooga. I am trying to help him distribute here as we have 8 lines that are pretty empty at night. Are you working with Kevin Zimmerman on PC, or are you pulling it down yourself? (is Kevin even around anymore...? if so say Hi! for me...) --Mike-- --- TBBS v2.1/NM * Origin: Higher Technology: 8*14.4k at 615-875-9969 (1:362/1211) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 705 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/27/93 4:29p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the -> effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not -> work. Routed netmail still works the way it is supposed to work. Routed netmail goes by way of the NODE-NC-RC-STAR-RC-NC-NODE. As per policy 4, the *C structure routes netmail. You should be connecting to your NC at least once a week anyway and (s)he to the RC at least once a week, etc. The *EC structure started handling routed netmail as a convenience to the rest of Fidonet since nodes normally connected to their NEC daily and the NEC to the REC, etc..., however, setting up routing statements the higher up you get in the distribution channel becomes increasingly difficult. At the net level, it is easy to set-up what with a few to perhaps a hundred nodes. At the Region level, it becomes difficult to route to individual nodes. Let me explain it this way. When I was the REC for Region 11, I routed netmail to the NEC's and let them handle the routing to the nodes. I had 42 nets in the region, requiring 42 routing statements to perform the task. However, if I had all of the region polling me, instead of just the NEC's, I would have needed over 1,200 routing statements to perform the same task. Since PC has nodes as well as nets connecting, the routing statements for them would be a NIGHTMARE to set up. Hope this helps explain a bit.. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 706 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 11/27/93 4:31p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hi Boyd, -> -> 24 Nov 93, 23:46, Boyd Goodin wrote to All: -> -> BG> that are not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of thumb. If it is n -> BG> the FIDONET.NA file I DONT WANT IT! -> -> The stars and most of the RECs were handling echos in Fidonet.no also -> should be rather simple to handle those also. Would you please recon -> Things are fragmented enough as is. PC already is sending mail from the .NO file. Try taking the echos out of your control file that are in *.NO and then watch your bad message area fill up with mail. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 707 To: KEN JACKSON Date: 11/27/93 4:38p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Boyd-- -> -> As of today, I'm STILL GETTING THEM, as well as a LOT of scrambled me -> To -> the tune of about 60 today!!! What is going on??? Take a look at the path line and you will see that the messages are going and coming in a loop between 3615/50 and 3821/100. Seems that 3821/100 is set up to return all netmail from 3615/51 to 3615/50 and his mailer is doing what is has been told to do. I sent a copy of the offending messages to Boyd and talked with him voice about it yesterday. We will see what happens. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 708 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 11/27/93 4:44p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> just have a lighter load and haven't yet see the problem. Or, maybe I -> problem and haven't noticed it. (that wouldn't be surprising) It would surprise the heck out of me if you had a problem and didn't know it. You were one of the most attentive NEC's that were around when I was REC of the Region. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 709 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 11/28/93 4:05p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > >basic system as you, but have run into many file collisions across > >the LAN with TICK trying to add to an open .?LO file. > > The secret weapon is copymail. CPML-122.ZIP. We point tick at an > offline outbound area, toss files, and then turn copymail loose on > it to merge the offline stuff into the live online area. Are you running stuff in your TIC.CFG PASSTHRU?? How do you keep TICK from killing your passthru stuff??? 'course I'm running COPYMAIL v1.20, so perhaps a FileRequest is in order... Thanks George... --==jb==-- --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: The SANDBOX ** RIP available HERE!! ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 710 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/27/93 5:34p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Nov2717:34, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 writes: TB> That is basically what I've been doing except I uncompress TB> my mail bundles to a ram drive then tossing is so much TB> faster. If Boyd would break up the trasnmissions into TB> smaller sessions I would really like to run the whole show TB> on a ram disk. I don't like my _expensive_ hard drive TB> coming on and going off every second. Maybe you should concider a good cache - probably better then a ram drive. Takes me 10 minutes to toss the whole bundle with squish and 512k cache. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 711 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 12:57a Subj: New Version Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The new version is working flawlessly. To date this is one of the most stable comm programs that I've ever seen that I've run under DV. I've been able to redo my system so that the PC machine spawns another window and tosses mail in the background. Intense hard drive activity (across a network to boot!) doesn't phase the receiving of the files. This is all on a 386/SX16 so I will say that I am VERY happy with the status of the system and the results. Keep it up! See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 712 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 1:06a Subj: Node number Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No <sigh> This stuff is driving me crazy. I know that I just got my number changed from 400 to 100, BUT I need to tell you now that (more than likely) my node number will be changing back to 400 on or about January 1. Sorry for the trouble. Emergency situation popped up in the net with a hub going down and I had to fill in. A little foresight would have had me at 400 and 100, but Bob Davis frowns upon that type of activity. I'll keep you abreast of any more ridiculous changes <sigh> se ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SCHEEL Number: 713 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/27/93 4:37p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to Jacobo Oduber: TB> That is basically what I've been doing except I TB> uncompress my mail bundles to a ram drive then tossing is TB> so much faster. If Boyd would break up the TB> trasnmissions into smaller sessions I would really like TB> to run the whole show on a ram disk. I don't like my TB> _expensive_ hard drive coming on and going off every TB> second. I have been running hyperdisk with the 16550 with delayed write on and have not noticed any particular problems. It does stop the write to the hard drive every second. Later, <_Frank_> --- timEd/2-B9 * Origin: Frank's Station (via OS2 from me to you) (1:19/148) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 714 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 11/28/93 3:16p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ed Marquis wrote in a message to Dan Williamson: EM> Have you tried using Fred on the Usenet files from the bird? EM> My setup doesn't seem to recognize the format but then EM> again I'm a real amateur at FRED and Usenet. I sure would EM> like to take a look at your setup. Yup .... worked like a charm. I simply put all the extra bull aside (like the necessary items associated with waffle and uucico) and use the following batch file to process it: ========================================================================== TOSSNEWS.BAT ------------------------------------------------------------------------ @echo off : don't echo commands spaz c:\newsgrp\pcusenet.* : spaz unarchives all the pcusenet archives into the current dir for %%F in (*.bag) do call MakePkt.Bat %%F : call the conversion batch file echo Y|del c:\newsgrp : Don't use this until you're sure processing works correctly. ------------------------------------------------------------------------ MAKEPKT.BAT (Called by TossNews.Bat) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ fred-uf -c fred.cfg %1.bag 00000001.pkt del %1.bag : using the fred unix to fido gating (and your standard config file) : convert the batched files into ftn packets and blow away original. : Insert your site specific pkt processing here or your C/Pascal : routine to rename the packet uniquely and bump the reference up one. squish in out squash link : Process the ftn packet immediately ---- OR ----- nmbcvrt 00000001.pkt refrnce.dat : Using the value in refrnce.dat rename the 00000001.pkt : to ########.pkt and increase the reference by one. : (NB - This would be a simple C or Pascal program). : If you just leave it as 00000001.pkt it will be overwritten each : time a *.bag file is processed ========================================================================== Any further processing is via your fido mailer/tosser software as usual. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 715 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 11/28/93 1:28p Subj: Whatcha using? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dear Hans: What are you folks using in Calgary? C or Ku? If Ku, any problems? Regards, Poor Richard... --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 716 To: ALL Date: 11/25/93 1:06a Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No This is what my ACONFIG.SKY file looks like: # net grp usr major minor topic type destination limit :rulebase, *, 1, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\SKYINFO/, * :rulebase, *, 2, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA/, * :rulebase, *, 3, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA/UPDATES/, * :rulebase, *, 4, _SKYID, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\PERSONAL/, * :rulebase, *, 5, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\FIDO/, * :rulebase, *, 6, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\WEATHER/, * :rulebase, *, 7, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\TV/, * :rulebase, *, 8, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\CRS/, * :rulebase, *, 9, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\RIME/, * :rulebase, *, 10, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\ROSENET/, * :rulebase, *, 11, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\NEWSGRP/, * :rulebase, *, 12, *, *, *, *, disk, C:\SKYDATA\MBBS/, * I tried to put the weather files on a different drive, but the software kept returning an error. If I moved everything to a different drive, all was ok. Is there a restriction in PTCCMAIN that all areas must be on the same drive? I don't have any problem moving the files after PTCCMAIN shuts down, but would like to save them if possible to a different drive in the first place. -=- Craig. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 717 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/26/93 1:29a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Terry Blount: >> We all seem to be getting a flood of netmail addressed to other >> folks who are having problems. Would it be too difficult for > BG> > BG> Working on it. Seems to have stopped ever since I stopped > BG> alowing routed netmail through our system. > Thanks... now if you could only fix it so that we can use > routed net mail through your system and pick it up when we call > in with our reply mail. I polled my old hub a few days ago and > found about 15 routed netmail messages that had been waiting > there for over a month. Needless to say that I lost some sales > that could have helped me pay my Planet Connect subscription fee > <grin>. It is really difficult to try to teach everyone that > CRASH netmail is the ONLY option that is now available to most > of us who are using Planet Connect. Since EVERY moderator's > most frequently posted message is "Take this to netmail" we > really need to get routed netmail working properly so that we > can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the > effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not > work. > Thanks for your ear. > --- timEd-A10c > * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 718 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/26/93 1:40a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks... now if you could only fix it so that we can use > routed net mail through your system and pick it up when we call Think about this for a second. When I pass it on to John then it hits its destination. Now when someone replies via routed it goes out thier hub and followings its path back to where you would normaly pick it up. Routing thru me is one way guy. You seen the mess I had with routed stuff going all over the place! Since we are dealing with *MANY* nets this becomes a routing nightmare. I have tried it, created problems, so I have stopped, unless of course, everyone still wants a whole bunch of stuff ending up in thier netmail areas. > in with our reply mail. I polled my old hub a few days ago and > found about 15 routed netmail messages that had been waiting > there for over a month. Needless to say that I lost some sales > that could have helped me pay my Planet Connect subscription fee > <grin>. It is really difficult to try to teach everyone that As I stated YOU still would have to call him to pick up your replies if we route mail. So if you have routed stuff to go out use your normal means and then you are sure to get it out. > CRASH netmail is the ONLY option that is now available to most > of us who are using Planet Connect. Since EVERY moderator's > most frequently posted message is "Take this to netmail" we > really need to get routed netmail working properly so that we > can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the > effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not > work. I dont see any solution to this problem. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 719 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 11/25/93 12:46a Subj: New node getting this ech Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Maybe the fido boys need to re-think when ZMH take place...;-) Chris you've got to be kidding. The whole world would have to change their time and that just isn't going to happen. Have a Happy Thanksgiving. --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 6 Gigs (1:105/286) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 720 To: TODD LYONS Date: 11/29/93 2:08p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > BG> Heck I stopped using that 3 days ago. When are you guys > BG> tossing your mail? > > GS> THere were GMD messages in yesterdays mail...... > > And again today...... TL> Read carefully Greg. Those are Qmail logs, not GMD stats. TL> QM logs I can handle. Qmail logs that tell individuals that their message has no origin line and sends them a copy of it? I dont think so..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 721 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 2:10p Subj: Re: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > BG> P.S. Get your receiver?? BG> > Yup.....did you get my netmail? :) BG> BG> Which one, and is it working better than the first one? The one you replied to :)..... The new receiver is working fine......a BIG improvement over the other one. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KERRY SUTLEY Number: 722 To: BOYD Date: 11/29/93 4:30p Subj: Hi All!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just a note to say hello, and let everyone know that Machinery OnLine is echoing this forum. Well Boyd everything is working perfectly!!! Kerry Sutley, Sysop Machinery OnLine 1:2601/581 --- MajorMAIL V1.61 for Fido --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: 1:/2601/581 (1:2601/581) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 723 To: JIM WATSON Date: 11/29/93 7:56p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Basically, there isn't any reason you can't route netmail recieved via > landline via John's system. Ok. Tell me this. WHERE are the replies (coming back) going to be routed to? Even John told me this is one way. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 724 To: JIM WATSON Date: 11/29/93 8:04p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > <toss inbound mail, do not pack> > <MsgTrack> > Send xxxx 3615/50 > Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All Thats what I had except for the MsgTrack and I did not see one routed netmail flow back to me from John for one of the systems. Why is this? because the reply would follow the route back that would put the message on the hub that is in the network. If I routed a message thru 1:396/1 I would have to call 1:3615/1 to get my reply. It would not go thru 396/1. If I was in the 396 net then I would receive the reply thru 396/1 system. Maybe George can explain this a little better than me. But if I am wrong then I will try again. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 725 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 11/29/93 8:07p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > SEND <however> 3615/51 ; to the uplink system. > SEND HOLD 123/301 133/16 321/123 or any other system you route for. > ROUTE <however> 369/1 1:all 2:all 3:all 4:all 5:all 6:all > The problem seems to be that you are trying to send everything to the > uplink system and out the bird. As 3615/50, you're just another system > on the net and should be able to do anything any of us can do. And that > includes properly running GMD with return message being placed on hold > for the offending system. Nope. I had everything exactly like that in my route.cfg file. But it did not work. Look at the GMD's. I think they were send all over the universe. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 726 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/28/93 6:19p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, 27 Nov 93, 15:41, Boyd Goodin wrote to Tim Dowell: BG> Thanks. I know that not all areas in the .NO file are carried by BG> the star system I call. I thought you were calling John. When I was hooked into Steve Cross, everything that was in Fidonet.No was available from him and he got his feed from John. You might want to check on that. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 727 To: ALL Date: 11/30/93 2:30a Subj: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I must ask everyone's forgiveness. I was wrong! We are sending everything from the FIDONET.NA *AND* the FIDONET.NO files. So I take everything back. Now if only everyone would check their areas and make sure I am not getting local stuff like SOC_ROOT, EIAC (or something like that), RA-BETA (Dont carry this cause I dont have acces). Want more? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LANCE TAYLOR-WARREN Number: 728 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/29/93 6:33p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dan! 28 Nov 93 15:16, Dan Williamson wrote to Ed Marquis: DW> Ed Marquis wrote in a message to Dan Williamson: EM>> Have you tried using Fred on the Usenet files from the bird? EM>> My setup doesn't seem to recognize the format but then EM>> again I'm a real amateur at FRED and Usenet. I sure would EM>> like to take a look at your setup. DW> Yup .... worked like a charm. I simply put all the extra bull DW> aside (like the necessary items associated with waffle and DW> uucico) and use the following batch file to process it: DW> ================================================================= DW> ========= DW> TOSSNEWS.BAT DW> -+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--+--- DW> -+--+-- DW> for %%F in (*.bag) do call MakePkt.Bat %%F DW> : call the conversion batch file Here is what I came up with, saves having to go into another batch file. This does require 4DOS, but if your not using 4DOS you should be!! :) ECHO . ECHO . Checking for new usenet messages ECHO . cd c:\fredgate\spool\pcusenet IF EXIST c:\binkley\files\pcusenet.* pkunzip c:\binkley\files\pcusenet.* IF EXIST c:\binkley\files\pcusenet.* del c:\binkley\files\pcusenet.* ECHO . ECHO . Converting UseNET to FidoNET with FRED-UF ECHO . for %%m in (c:\fredgate\spool\pcusenet\news*.bag) do fred-uf -c... ...c:\fredgate\config.nws %%m c:\binkley\files\0000%@substr[%%m,31,4].pkt del *.bag Then all the packets have a unique name and squish can toss them later. Lance --- GoldED 2.42.G1125 * Origin: Net 213 NC - Internet Gateway Reno, NV (702) 322-9796 (1:213/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 729 To: ALL Date: 11/29/93 8:18p Subj: PC Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I'm just about ready to order PC for my system, and my net out here, however I have just a few questions. Is anyone successfully running the pc software under dv, or os/2?. I have a dx2-66mhz @ 76mhz w/ 16 megs of ram. And would prefer os/2 if possible. If I'm able to run the system under a multitasker, then I can order the service at this point. If not, then It'll be awhile until I can afford a peer to peer enviroment setting in order to pull the messages in. Also is this base strictly for Sysops? Or can users read this echo as well? I have a few people interested in picking this up. Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 730 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/29/93 7:12p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> That isn't a big problem... the problem is when routed netmail is sen -> and does not arrive and we miss the chance to sell something to pay o -> subscription fee for PC. :) Routed netmail for commercial purposes is contrary to fidonet. Fidonet is a NON-commerical enterprise. IF you are conducting business via routed netmail, then you are causing all of the volunteers out there to suffer financial losses for your personal financial gain. Are you paying each of the nodes involved in routing your business mail? IF not, re-read policy 4. --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 731 To: JACK WINSLADE Date: 11/29/93 7:14p Subj: SUGGESTION... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> >Sort of like the invention of the flush toilet by Thomas Crapper. -> -> Not to turn this into alt.folklore.urban, but I can provide some docu -> references to Sir Thomas Crapper. He did exist, but his legend has b -> quite embellished. Not to mention his name has been flushed down the ........ never-mind. --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 732 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/28/93 11:48p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks... now if you could only fix it so that we can use > routed net mail through your system and pick it up when we call BG> BG> Think about this for a second. When I pass it on to John then it hits BG> its destination. Now when someone replies via routed it BG> goes out thier hub and followings its path back to BG> where you would normaly pick it up. Routing thru me is BG> one way guy. You seen the mess I had with routed stuff BG> going all over the place! Since we are dealing with BG> *MANY* nets this becomes a routing nightmare. I have BG> tried it, created problems, so I have stopped, unless BG> of course, everyone still wants a whole bunch of stuff BG> ending up in thier netmail areas. Boyd, this doesn't make sense to me. Outbound wise, you only have two nodes to deal with. One, you make copies of everything received via land line to 3615/50, aka the uplink. Two, you make "..." to 396/1. All you have to do is route everything not going to your own uplink address over to 396/1. You mighta oughta run something like MsgTrack on it first though, or you'll be seeing warnings from his -:) Basically, there isn't any reason you can't route netmail recieved via landline via John's system. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 733 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 11/28/93 11:54p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> Check your echo areas. I am getting a lot of messages from echos t -> not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of thumb. If it is not in the FIDO -> file I DONT WANT IT! MB> You might want to ammend that to include the FIDONET.NO file as well, as MB> you send echos in that file as well. The FIDONET.NO file is for those MB> echos that are not in the ELIST and were in FIDONET.NA. Currently there There are also quite a few Filebone related echos being pumped down. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 734 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 11/28/93 11:58p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GS> No......they are being sent to 3615/51 which is -every- downlink Oh, now that's cute -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 735 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 12:07a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > speeds up the netmail process. BG> BG> We do not route netmail. What is the sense of us BG> routing netmail when yopu would still have to call your BG> regular place to pick up any returns. Still a LD call no matter what. Because there are some nets that if you are not a member of their CRP (and I know of at least two that have both landline and dish feed), then you don't get routed outbound services either. Neither is the dish operator always the inbound link. It will not be _that_ difficult to implement. I also think you'll find that many your customers would prefer that you in fact handle it. As a commercial service... <toss inbound mail, do not pack> <MsgTrack> Send xxxx 3615/50 Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 736 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/28/93 9:02p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Nov 27 15:39>, Boyd Goodin writes: BG> We do not route netmail. What is the sense of us routing BG>netmail when yopu would still have to call your regular place to BG>pick up any returns. Still a LD call no matter what. If it was properly routed, all returns would be on hold at 3615/50 when ever the node called. John routes any nodes/nets you service to you. You simply put them on hold. The netmail is handled differently then the echomail and since the echomail is all processed to 3615/51, these specific net/node holds would have no effect on it. When ever a node polls you and delivers outbound echomail and any routed netmail you simply route any outbound netmail to John or to be put on hold if the system is already on PC. The star, region and net hubs do it all the time. Say you're processing for 123/301, 133/16 & 321/123 amoung others. You're routing file might look like.... SEND <however> 3615/51 ; to the uplink system. SEND HOLD 123/301 133/16 321/123 or any other system you route for. ROUTE <however> 369/1 1:all 2:all 3:all 4:all 5:all 6:all The problem seems to be that you are trying to send everything to the uplink system and out the bird. As 3615/50, you're just another system on the net and should be able to do anything any of us can do. And that includes properly running GMD with return message being placed on hold for the offending system. This sounds too simple... what am I missing...... :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 737 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/28/93 9:24p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Nov 27 15:41>, Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Thanks. I know that not all areas in the .NO file are carried BG>by the star system I call. Hmmmm.... strange... they are here. And I'm one step away from John. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALBERT GAYLORD Number: 738 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 11/28/93 6:54a Subj: Re: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dave! Wednesday November 24 1993, Dave Sloan writes to Albert Gaylord: DS> In a msg on <Nov2423:16, Albert Gaylord of 1:105/40 writes: AG>> -!- GoldED 2.40+ TeamOS/2 - ssA Satellite Hub AG>> ! Origin: ssA Satellite Syndicate Assocs SHub 1-503 297-1112 DS> I see that you are running OS/2. We are setting up now to feed the mail DS> into an OS/2 system for distribution. I have some ideas on how this should DS> be done. Maybe I will start documenting what I am doing so that we can DS> work out the most effective method of distribution and feedback to the PC DS> system. Any ideas then let me know. I will document what I have done up to DS> now tommorrow so that we can get our 'heads together' so to speak. -+- DS> msgedsq/2 2.1 DS> + Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) Our satellite downlink site also uses OS/2, so if you post in this echo he - and all the others using/wishing to use OS/2 will know better how to implement it. Thanks, Albert --- GoldED 2.40+ TeamOS/2 - ssA Satellite SHub * Origin: ssA Satellite Syndicate Assocs SHub 1-503 297-1112 (1:105/40) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 739 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 1:43p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Thank you for the attempts and please take your time. Looking -> > forward to yet another EXCELLENT service from your company! Netmai -> > BIG plus! -> -> Not any more! Too many problems with it. Boyd, like others, I would like to see a true solution to this issue of routed netmail rather than simply not dealing with it. We are extremely pleased with your concept (actually bought and installed the system yesterday and debugging it now). However, I do not think you can just disregard routed netmail. I would urge you to consider some method of implementing it for Fidonet. Please. On another, more upbeat note, can you please tell us something about yourself, how this all started, etc. One of our group asked and we said we did not know but that I would make inquiries. A little history might be of interst to the other folks as well. What does management at the shop-at-home channel you are working for think of all of this? When did you first get the idea? You are obviously an innovative guy and may wish to record this historical event. Best of success and please do not give up on the concept of routed netmail. It may very well be a headache but it is important enough to merit further review. Regards, Poor Richard... --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 740 To: ALL Date: 11/29/93 1:50p Subj: COM1 no good? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is there a restriction on using COM1 for the receiver? If so, are there workarounds? Thanks. Regards, Poor Richard... --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 741 To: DAVID BLUM Date: 11/20/93 12:23p Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I got the file from you and it works great, but how do I keep it from > sending messages back to Boyd about the grunged messages. As I'm sure > that he has better things to do than read those messages<G>, right > Boyd.. Try looking for a Packet Exclude parameter in the GMD config, David, and entering Boyd's address(es) there. I don't run GMD here myself, but my fiance does. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 742 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/20/93 12:23p Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well now waht happened was that some of last weeks mail got in with > that days mail. So you got old and new. This was a mistake at the UPLINK > computer. I have remedied the problem. Thanks for letting me know. Okay, thanks Boyd! --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK MORRIS Number: 743 To: ALL Date: 11/30/93 9:01a Subj: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I've read a lot about routed netmail recently and would like to make a clarification here... routed netmail is supposed to be routed through the *C's... even though the *EC's have been nice enough to do it, it's not something that a hub has to do if they don't want to... Rick Morris NC/NEC 2350 --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Connection 4.6 Gig On-line (513) 393-0075 (1:2350/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 744 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 11/24/93 4:36p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Jim, You pose a good argument for the little delay. I may just go ahed and shift my external events, or remove some of them. I had them there when I was a mail hub, and like you, I didn't want to use TIMS to do my tossing. It has major draw backs for everything except netmail. I think that processing everything after 01:00 the next day will become part of normal procedure. You are absolutely correct... it IS only echomail. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 745 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 11/28/93 10:45p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hi Mike, -> Hope you have a great Thanksgiving. Hang onto your hat, not only am I -> sending this message to you but some NICE cold weather! -> -> Let me know how this comes out. -> -> Mark 433 Wow, it poured for two days up here with high winds. Thanks a lot, Buddy!!! <G> Looks like you got it set up great... Coming in loud and clear Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 746 To: JEFF WARD Date: 11/29/93 5:31p Subj: Gmd messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> You and me both. I just dumped about 60 out of my netmail area that were -> tossed today. Maybe we'll hear something soon. Later! Looks like the GMD messages are a thing of the past. None today!! PC1128.ZIP also works like a charm... I'm very pleased with the performance of the unit. I only wish the mail would come earlier in the AM and could be automated in some way (or maybe one could be transmitted at 11pm, which would arrive about 3am and be processed for the morning readers... Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 747 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 11/30/93 1:03p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No [munch] CC> I tried to put the weather files on a different drive, CC> but the software kept returning an error. If I moved CC> everything to a different drive, all was ok. Is there CC> a restriction in PTCCMAIN that all areas must be on the same drive? CC> I don't have any problem moving the files after CC> PTCCMAIN shuts down, but would like to save them if CC> possible to a different drive in the first place. CC> -=- Craig. Yes there is a restriction that all areas must bo on the same drive. This is stated in the documentation that came on your initial distribution disk. I too would like to be able to specify different drive. HOW about it BOYD will this feature be possible in a future upgrade of the software? Dave. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 748 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/30/93 5:26p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > George can explain this a little better than me. But if I am > wrong then I will try again. That's a good answer, Moosehead. It should work, but I believe your first priority should be perfectly smooth echomail and files day in and day out. After that, routed netmail should be fairly easy to implement. later dude and keep up the good work. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 749 To: BILL WOLF Date: 12/01/93 2:09a Subj: PC Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BW> I'm just about ready to order PC for my system, and my BW> net out here, however I have just a few questions. BW> Is anyone successfully running the pc software under BW> dv, or os/2?. I have a dx2-66mhz @ 76mhz w/ 16 megs BW> of ram. And would prefer os/2 if possible. BW> If I'm able to run the system under a multitasker, BW> then I can order the service at this point. If not, BW> then It'll be awhile until I can afford a peer to peer BW> enviroment setting in order to pull the messages in. Bill, I've been running it under DV since mid Oct. with EXCELLENT results. This on a little 386DX-40 with 5meg of RAM. The latest release of the software is (for me) as stable & error free under DV as it is under plain old DOS. The use of 16550's is IMPERATIVE as is a FAST hard drive. Mickey --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 (1:116/205) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY RUSSELL Number: 750 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/30/93 2:26p Subj: ECHO'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd ! How about providing the K-12 Network Echos. Have you talked to them ? Sure would like to see the SAT. system deliver more goods ! :) Regards Jerry --- TMail v1.31 * Origin: TechTalk BBS, Cocoa,FL (1:374/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 751 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 11/30/93 12:16p Subj: COM1 no good? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is there a restriction on using COM1 for the receiver? If so, are > there workarounds? Thanks. Richard. I am running it on com1: over here with no problems. Maybe you have a problem with your serial port or a conflict with a com3 mouse? Just make sure you change all the info for com1 in the config file. There are 4 or 5 parameters if I recall correctly. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 752 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 11/30/93 10:10a Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >Are you running stuff in your TIC.CFG PASSTHRU?? How do you keep TICK from >killing your passthru stuff??? Nope. I don't run it passthru. I can see where that could be a problem. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 753 To: EDDIE ROWE Date: 11/30/93 10:19a Subj: PLANET CONNECT ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >for a time period when ZC. If memory serves me correctly you asked >everyone who used Fidonet for commercial purposes to be sure and do >it on their own nickel and not routed netmail through others who did >this for a hobby... Yup. It was a warning about doing shareware/commercial product registration and sale using non-consenting routed netmail. Echomail, being a point-to-point arrangement deliberately set up between consenting nodes, is a bit different. Still a pretty wild beast, but one we've consciously consented to. There are varying opinions about this and I confess that mine wanders on occasion. We're still experimenting and still trying to get a grip on FidoNet itself. And as a result the echo police do sometimes embark on little crusades. Once it was origin lines. Even tear lines. I'm certain we have lots more fun ahead. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY BERG Number: 754 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/01/93 4:34a Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Nope. I had everything exactly like that in my > route.cfg file. But it did not work. Look at the > GMD's. I think they were send all over the universe. Depends on how the sats antennae are pointed (*) --- * Origin: The Rec Room Lansing, MI (1:159/350) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 755 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 9:34a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> > Ok, thanks. Who exactly creates these maps? Are they from the National BG> > Weather Service originally? I hope they decide soon, because it's been BG> I am not at liberty to say at the moment and yes they are BG> working on it. Should not me long now.. I guess we'll just have to be patient . . . :-) --- GEcho 1.01+NOMORETG! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 756 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 11:40p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, 28 Nov 93, 21:53, Boyd Goodin wrote to Dave Osborne: BG> I can only send back what I am turned on for to receive. If I BG> start sending this stuff back to the star it would cause a bit of a BG> problem on his end. If you're pulling from John, you should be (and are) getting these areas already, so it isn't a problem. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 757 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 11/29/93 11:42p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi MARTIN, 27 Nov 93, 16:29, MARTIN BELCKE wrote to TERRY BLOUNT: MB> netmail goes by way of the NODE-NC-RC-STAR-RC-NC-NODE. As per MB> policy 4, the *C structure routes netmail. You should be connecting MB> to your NC at least once a week anyway and (s)he to the RC at least MB> once a week, etc. Read policy again. The RC isn't required to route netmail. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 758 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 10:22a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I no longer have a "regular" place. PC is my "regular" place > now. Sending netmail is not the problem... I can crash it but > teaching the fidonet world that routed netmail is no longer an Terry, don't you maintain any type of local or regional connect for the purpose of picking up local/regional echoes or routed netmail? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 759 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 11/30/93 3:53p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TOSSNEWS.BAT Thanks for the info. I got your message and Lance's on the same day. Since I use 4DOS I tried Lance's batch file and it works very nicely. I appreciate the reply! Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 760 To: LANCE TAYLOR-WARREN Date: 11/30/93 4:27p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >ECHO . Converting UseNET to FidoNET with FRED-UF >ECHO . >for %%m in (c:\fredgate\spool\pcusenet\news*.bag) do fred-uf -c... >...c:\fredgate\config.nws %%m c:\binkley\files\0000%@substr[%%m,31,4].pkt This worked real well with 4DOS 5.0. I just changed the paths and @substr string position for the filename portion... Thanks! Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 761 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/01/93 2:22p Subj: New Version Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Nov 29 00:57>, Todd Lyons writes: TL>I've been able to redo my system so that the PC machine spawns another TL>window and tosses mail in the background. Intense hard drive activity TL>(across a network to boot!) doesn't phase the receiving of the files. TL>This is all on a 386/SX16 so I will say that I am VERY happy with the TL>status of the system and the results. Hey! That's sounds great. If it works that way for me, I'll be impressed. And Boyd knows that ain't easy to do. :-) Uh, Boyd.... Whar's ma dish???? D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 762 To: BARRY CASSETTY Date: 12/01/93 2:24p Subj: where are you???? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Nov 18 10:34>, Barry Cassetty writes: > First, it is not all that seldom that I get up in the > morning to find the whole mess belly up with all 4 > port in the air. When you uplink at 0730EST, that's > 0630CST (my time) and 0430PST. Having the first > uplink a little later would make the hours more > reasonable. BC>I would like to this type of operation... I agree, but I think it has died the slow death of apathy. :-( Happy Holidays, D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 763 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/01/93 2:30p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Nov 29 19:56>, Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Ok. Tell me this. WHERE are the replies (coming back) going to BG>be routed to? Even John told me this is one way. Boyd, John simply routes any netmail to 3615/50 for any system that's you feed in the same way you route it to him. He does it now for other nets via modem, there is little difference between feeding you and feeding an REC. Admittedly the chain is routed netmail is involved and demands a lot of maintenance. It'd be nice if we had something along the lines of areafix for routed netmail. Although Message Track does a good job, it doesn't allow remote control. But, this CAN all be done. Honest! :-) Say I'm calling 3615/50 to deliver mail. I also deliver the nets routed netmail. If that mail goes to a system you already feed, the process is over, your system simply sticks it on hold. If that mail is going someplace other than a PC system, you route it to John. On the other side. If someone sends something to me, it's routed via their links to John. John has a routing statement that routes 123 to 3615/50. You get it, put it on hold and I pick it up. It works! Honest! :-) Pain in the ass to maintain, but it does work. Don't say it can't be done. It already is. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 764 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/01/93 2:42p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Nov 29 20:07>, Boyd Goodin writes: BG>I think they were send all over the universe. Ha! Yeh, literally. <G> I'm not sure what went wrong except that GMD does handle things kinda backdoorish. It actually creates a netmail to itself that is routed by the host system.... or something like that. So if routing wasn't working neither will GMD. I'm not sure what to tell ya, except that it can and does work. Don't try to rush it, pick one or two system close by that you can test with. What processor are you using? Qm and Squish require FORWARD FROM/TO lines as well in order to enable routing. One step at a time. First step, whar's ma dish? :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 765 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/01/93 2:57p Subj: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Nov 30 02:30>, Boyd Goodin writes: BG> I must ask everyone's forgiveness. I was wrong! We are sending BG>everything from the FIDONET.NA *AND* the FIDONET.NO files. So I BG>take everything back. You're forgiven..... just as soon as I get my dish. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LARRY JAMES Number: 766 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/01/93 2:24a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> SEND <however> 3615/51 ; to the uplink system. >> SEND HOLD 123/301 133/16 321/123 or any other system you route for. >> ROUTE <however> 369/1 1:all 2:all 3:all 4:all 5:all 6:all > Nope. I had everything exactly like that in my route.cfg file. But it > did not work. Look at the GMD's. I think they were send all over the > universe. Me thinks <grone> it should look something like this. Route to 123/301 for 123/all Route to 133/16 for 133/all . . . Route to UPLINK for DOWNLINK_ONLY Route to 369/1 for OTHERS OTHERS = those nets you have no links to. >>>Larry<<< Say hello to Veger:-) --- DB 1.54/001249 * Origin: LifeTime Systems * Filebone HUB * 1-503-243-2471 * (1:105/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 767 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/01/93 3:18p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > And, I'm adding a 4th Pioneer CD-ROM changer RSN. That'll require > a bunch of changes in configuration files, just to get enough > drive letters. I think I can make B: a network drive under > Lantastic.... Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap A: and B: to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a bunch of single drives. I heard that there was some software that would make the Pioneer drives appear as one drive letter with the different CD's as subdirectories under it but don't know where to get it or what it's called. I sure would love to see someone write a driver that would do this. You could have 6 times more CD's online if you used all Pioneer 604x drives. I could just map drives on the fly in batch files but I want all CD's searchable and accessible at once. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 768 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 11/30/93 6:52p Subj: Size Of Squish Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Ervin Jay to Dave Sloan *** EJ> Squish will limit the size of the individual PKTs inside each EJ> arcmail bundle, but will not limit the size of the bundles EJ> themselves. EJ> EJ> For that you need to run SizeMail from inside your Squish EJ> ROUTE.CFG using a EJ> DOS sizemail -cD:\Bink\sizemail.cfg EJ> Line. EJ> EJ> It realli does make a big difference for those with large feed EJ> downlinks. EJ> EJ> Cheers, Ervin EJ> Could you elaborte on this a bit more? I have several downlinks that intake between 2 and 3.5 megs per day, and the way I have it set up right now, it just keeps adding and adding to the bundle until the next day comes. So I have a 3.5 meg bundle of mail. I'd like to put these in 500K or so bundles...but I can't seem to figure out how it is done. Not to mention as my inbound daily dump arrives it takes longer and longer to add to bundles that grow bigger and bigger. Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 769 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 11/30/93 7:06p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *** Quoting Dave Sloan to Terry Blount *** DS> Maybe you should concider a good cache - probably better then a DS> ram drive. Takes me 10 minutes to toss the whole bundle with DS> squish and 512k cache. Maybe you could elaborate on this a bit more (maybe in netmail to me). I use Squish and presently get about 4-5 megs of echomail per day, and it usually takes the better part of an hour to process the mail and bundle it up for my 25 or so downlinks. Needless to say my poor hard drive gets a good kicking everyday. My satellite system arrived yesterday and should be up and working by next week, and then I'll really be getting some large volumes of mail and this concerns me even more about the old hard drive. Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 770 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 12/01/93 11:34p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! Sunday November 28 1993, John Burton writes to George Peace: >> The secret weapon is copymail. CPML-122.ZIP. We point tick at an >> offline outbound area, toss files, and then turn copymail loose on >> it to merge the offline stuff into the live online area. Thanks for the Tip, George, works great for me in a special purpose...... but don't think it would work for my normal configuration. JB> Are you running stuff in your TIC.CFG PASSTHRU?? How do you keep TICK JB> from killing your passthru stuff??? Once I twigged to this little hummer... I set up a second, dummy, Tick.CFG pointing to my real outbound and this is the one that does the PassThru deleting... Appears to be working here. then again, I am only using this to hatch SatMail to the other Net Hubs, so TICK never really runs on the HATCH Tic.CFG file. Now, on a normal system where Tic is processing incoming file to downlinks, what is it that stops Tic from first looking at the CaopyMail outbound and, seeing no FLO files with pending Passthru files (since thery were all moved to the regular outbound last time) from then deleting all the PT and passthru files which are really still pending in FLO files in the real outbound? Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE HEARN Number: 774 To: ALL Date: 12/01/93 9:06p Subj: 'dish' mail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I run a message only BBS in Ft. Worth, Texas and hear quite a bit about the sat. system for recieving mail. I have built a rather large unix server, netware server and have ethernet,tcp/ip, nfs, nis, atp, etc. I built the unix server for the purpose of purchasing pagesat for getting usenet piped into my network. It is my understanding that this type of system is available for fidonet. I would appreciated more information about this service, how much it costs, what is required to hook it up, etc. I am basically wanting something to dump mail on my bbs 24 hours a day and keep keep everything on fidonet coming in here. I would also like to know how messages would get out from here back into the net. I would like to do something with fidonet before I do something with usenet as I understand the usenet system really tears the hard drive up. About pagesat, is anyone in this echo running it? I am wanting to purchase this system in the very near future also. If there is an info pack I can freq from someone about either of these services, please let me know. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Metroplex Mailbox*650 Echos*Metro 817-268-1422 (1:130/1008) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE HEARN Number: 775 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/01/93 9:16p Subj: PC Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mickey Ferguson stated these words of wisdom to Bill Wolf: MF> Bill, MF> I've been running it under DV since mid Oct. with EXCELLENT MF> results. This on a little 386DX-40 with 5meg of RAM. MF> The latest release of the software is (for me) as stable & MF> error free under DV as it is under plain old DOS. MF> The use of 16550's is IMPERATIVE as is a FAST hard drive. How big of a drive do you need/recommend for this? Kyle --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Metroplex Mailbox*650 Echos*Metro 817-268-1422 (1:130/1008) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 776 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/02/93 9:54a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Patty Pickett wrote in a message to Terry Blount: PP> Terry, don't you maintain any type of local or regional PP> connect for the purpose of picking up local/regional echoes PP> or routed netmail? Not since it has gone down. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 777 To: ALL Date: 12/01/93 11:00p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* hours per day on a 486). Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 778 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 12/02/93 11:24p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I thought you were calling John. When I was hooked into Steve Cross, > everything that was in Fidonet.No was available from him and he got his > feed from John. You might want to check on that. Yep I diod and I have everything in both areas. Sorry about that. Now if I could only get people to stop sending local areas to me I think I would be able to work on getting this routed netmail thing done, finalize the Usenet stuff, work on other networks, look into a europe feed, and also find time for a life. ;-) ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 779 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/02/93 11:42p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, like others, I would like to see a true solution to this > issue of routed netmail rather than simply not dealing with it. We are > extremely pleased with your concept (actually bought and installed the One nice solution would be to have 10 systems, 6 in US and 4 in Canada, that each had a region and everone in each reagina would drop of mail to these systems instead of call directly to us. In turn we supply a number for the 10 systems to drop off mail to us. We would not have a problem with routing then as I would only have 10 systems to set up and routing would be handle from each system to mine then routed to what every of the 10 systems that net is in. Oh well, I can dream though can't I? > On another, more upbeat note, can you please tell us something > about yourself, how this all started, etc. One of our group asked and > we said we did not know but that I would make inquiries. A little Nope, I like keeping things a mystery. All I can say is that I am 33 years old, single, and my hair is turning white from this job! ;-) > history might be of interst to the other folks as well. What does > management at the shop-at-home channel you are working for think of all > of this? When did you first get the idea? You are obviously an Could not tell you about what they think. We are two different companies founded by the same person. Joe Overhold works more of a consultant to S.A.H. nowadays. Shop At Home just uplinks our signal. I dont work for them. They could not afford me! > innovative guy and may wish to record this historical event. Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this and I came to work for him a year ago today. I mainly worked on the Skylink project and now take care of the technical aspects of Planet Connect. Which of course include taking care of the computers and stuff at the uplink. Joe is the one with the ideas, I just keep everything running a smooth as I can. > Best of success and please do not give up on the concept of routed > netmail. It may very well be a headache but it is important enough to > merit further review. I am not giving it up! Giving up is not in my vocabulary! JUst going to take a while thats all. Who knows, maybe someday this 10 system idea will be in operation. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 780 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/02/93 11:45p Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Okay, thanks Boyd! Your welcome. By the way. Someone is dropping of a local echo and while going thru my badecho area I noticed a few people talking about a wedding. Nice half drawing of a wedding gown in one of them. You would not be tying the knot by any chance? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 781 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 12/02/93 11:46p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > well whatever rate, if it doesnt include Canada, they're rather USEless > <grin> > and to think one of my bbs's callers uploaded me a weather pic of the > northern hemisphere not much more than a week ago..wonder where he's > getting his :) > Cheers, Ken Probably wefax. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 782 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 11:45a Subj: Routed netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Basically, there isn't any reason you can't route netmail recieved via > landline via John's system. Sure there is, if John won't route it to begin with. Boyd Goodin scripted in a message to Jim Watson: Lemme jump into the foray here ... BG> Ok. Tell me this. WHERE are the replies (coming back) BG> going to be routed to? Even John told me this is one way. ... and see if I confuse things more. How does a netmail message from one system get routed to another? Well, it goes to the originating system's uplink, from there to his uplink, then to that system's uplink and so on up the chain until it hits a system with a routing control definition for the destination system. Then it travels a similiar path in reverse until it arrives on the destination system. This may involve 2 systems, or 20 or more; the exact routing is unpredictable and requires each intermediate system to know where to route netmail -- there are a lot of people (and personalities!) involved and some aren't too quick on changing things so it's quite possible for netmail to get deleted or end up batted around in a routing loop between a few systems. The key to all this is the destination address of the message, not the originating address, not the intermediate routing points, and definately not any AKAs such as 3615/51. There are no guarantees routing netmail; nets have better chances than independants as the NC will end up with the message and is obliged by policy to handle it. Ok, so where does that leave PlanetConnect subscribers? I don't know what PC's plans are, whether they plan catering to more than just the FIDOnet community or whatever, but in reference to routing netmail (FIDO netmail, that is) there is no reason Boyd cannot hold netmail for PC subscribers at 3615/50. (Sending it across the bird I don't find attractive at all -- that would create some serious loops: as example anything routed through here not destined for any of my downlinks gets routed out; I serve as a regional hub in R19. It'll end up back on 396/1, where it'll pass along to Boyd, who puts it in the air, back to me, along to 396/1 ... ) Getting stuff routed into 3615/50 for subscribers is the catch, however. Basically what it boils down to is this: John Souveste needs send any routed netmail that hits his system destined to a PlanetConnect subscriber, through 3615/50. This means JS has to be kept current on subscribers to update his routing (let's not forget he has some major routing tasks already involving all the nets and independants that get their mail via his system) and since PlanetConnect is a commercial enterprise the "FIDO-legality" of routing netmail through it is debatable anyway. John may not wish to be involved with the "commercialization" of FIDOnet or whatever. I do not know if this is his reason nor do I presume to speak for John. A solution? Technically it's quite possible IF John can be convinced. Right now a one-way routing is possible from 3615/50 to 396/1. Everyone is welcome to route their netmail through my system, but I cannot guarantee delivery. (Any tracking responses might not make it back too as I route anything that isn't destined for anyone feeding out of here!) If a subscriber isn't local to a net that can handle inbound netmail, arrange for a regional feed with the local RC and set up a polling schedule with him or one of his RHubs -- an RC carries some clout and can arrange routing. An alternate idea is to establish a seperate zone for subscribers who aren't local to a net and use 3615/50 as the gateway. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 783 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 12:45p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin scripted in a message to Jim Watson: BG> Why is this? because the reply would follow the BG> route back that would put the message on the hub that is in BG> the network. Not always true. Depends on who's doing the routing. If I receive mail for an R19 independant who doesn't poll here, I send it directly to RC19. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 784 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 12:50p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin scripted in a message to Dave Osborne: BG> But it did not work. Look at the GMD's. I think they BG> were send all over the universe. GMD responses are netmail. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER but NEVER put netmail on the bird as it will get bounced and routed by everyone who receives it and routes netmail. In 3615/50's routing definitions, HOLD a subscriber's mail and ROUTE through him his downlink's mail so he can collect any netmail when he delivers any echomail responses. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 785 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:10a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > First... Can I join your net? My net fell apart... we lost our > feed and the sysop of the local hub went on vacation and his Have to check with my hub on that. > system hasn't answered the phone in over a week. He is > discouraged that about 1/3 of his feeds have dropped out and > connected to PC and stopped helping pay the long distance phone > bill. He is a good guy but just isn't ready to accept this > technology. I am sorry to hear about that. > Second... if you put netmail on hold so that we picked it up > when we polled you with reply mail it would not be sent by > satellite and we should be able to get only the mail intended. Well from what every tells me the star system will have to set up each node that I have to allow returned mail to be routed to me. I am under no obligation to forward yours or anyones routed netmail. > "normal" means like I did before I joined PC and it is simply > not possible to teach everyone in fido land that crash netmail is > the only solution to contact me. I guess things in fidonet will have to change. >> can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the >> effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not >> work. I am not aware of any effects not routing netmail would have on us. We did not state anywhere that we would "route netmail". We just said we would accept return echomail to be sent back into landbased fidonet. > Let me join your net and then do whatever you are doing for your > "normal" non satellite feeds. How do they get their routed > netmail? I don't see it coming in over the satellite. Dont have any "normal" non satellite feeds. I call my hub once a week to get anything there for our system. None of my netmail replies are routed. I send everything direct. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 786 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:15a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The only thing that you need to figure out is how to place the > routed netmail from John on hold for the node to pick up when we This is it! I DONT GET any routed mail coming back from john unless he would have every address of every system that drops off mail to me. > You probably only have to give John a list of the nodes you > supply mail to so that he can send their routed net mail to you. I would think that his routing file is big enough as it is. > If he can't do that then we need to get a new node number so > that he can. I'll change node numbers today if it will fix this > problem. I can no longer get my routed netmail anyway so this > node number I have now is practically useless. This is where changes within the fidonet structure will have to changes to accept the satellite feed. I dont forsee this happening anytime in the near furture. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 787 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:18a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> If I routed a message thru 1:396/1 > ... > BG> It would not go thru 396/1. > I don't understand those two statements. They appear > contradictory to me. Here I route a netmail message to 1:245/89 lets say and I route it through 1:396/1. When 245/89 replies via routed mail, right now, as it stands, I would have to call 3615/1 to pick up that reply. I cant put it any simpler. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 788 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:19a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Maybe you accidentally found a new way to contact God. <Grin> Working on it! ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 789 To: RICK MORRIS Date: 12/03/93 12:20a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I've read a lot about routed netmail recently and would like to make a > clarification here... routed netmail is supposed to be routed through the > *C's... even though the *EC's have been nice enough to do it, it's not > something that a hub has to do if they don't want to... Thank you for the clearification. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 790 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/03/93 12:23a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That's a good answer, Moosehead. It should work, but I believe your > first priority should be perfectly smooth echomail and files day in and > day out. After that, routed netmail should be fairly easy to implement. > later dude and keep up the good work. Thanks for the encouragement hosser. I should of became a doctor. I think it is less stressfull than this occupation. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 791 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 12/03/93 12:25a Subj: Re: ECHO'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd ! > How about providing the K-12 Network Echos. Have you talked to them ? > Sure would like to see the SAT. system deliver more goods ! :) Havent talked with them. WGA should be going over any day now. Also a sports online magazine. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 792 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/03/93 12:28a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Now if John wants to reply, the message gets addressed to 141/1135 and > will go to the system *he* has set up to forward to, 141/1 for example > who forwards it to 141/1240 who forwards it to 141/1130 who fowards it to > me at 141/1135. He would have to put every system that calls me in his route statement too , wouldn't he? > I would also suggest that you start using session passwords for all mail > to prevent someone from dumping both netmail and bogus Echo mail on your > system. especially since with your setup, you can't run secure. We are. Starting Sunday if nobody has a session password they wont be able to drop anything off. .....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 793 To: GARY BERG Date: 12/03/93 12:29a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No >> GMD's. I think they were send all over the universe. > Depends on how the sats antennae are pointed (*) Ha!!!!!!!!!!!! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 794 To: JEFF WALLACH Date: 12/03/93 12:30a Subj: Re: DRIG package requested Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Would you PLEASE look for our package and send out: > 1 Ku Band install viedo tape > 2 Updated software It is being sent. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 795 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 12/03/93 12:31a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I guess we'll just have to be patient . . . :-) Getting there. Just got to kick them a few more times.......... ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 796 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 12/03/93 12:33a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If you're pulling from John, you should be (and are) getting these areas > already, so it isn't a problem. Got that worked out. Seems a lot of systems like to send me there local areas and we I dont mind reading the R18SYSOP echo but it is just for of politics and such. I am still getting messages from the BITCH echo and it is not in either of the FIDONET.N* files! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 797 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/03/93 12:38a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > for routed netmail. Although Message Track does a good job, it doesn't > allow remote control. But, this CAN all be done. Honest! :-) I believe you! But John's routing file would be enormous, not to mention how enormous it is now. > Don't say it can't be done. It already is. I am not saying it cant be done. I have other priorities at the moment. If John was to add all the nets than fine by me, I will give it another try. But nobody better start complaining if they happen to get a few messages not address to thier system ending up in thier netmail area. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 798 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/03/93 12:39a Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You're forgiven..... just as soon as I get my dish. :-) It was sent out yesterday. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 799 To: LARRY JAMES Date: 12/03/93 12:40a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Say hello to Veger:-) Who's Veger? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 800 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/03/93 12:40a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is there any chance that the weather stuff could be sent out in > RIP Script format? Sure would make it easy to interface for the > users to view them online. > Joe We are looking into that possibility. YOu could do it on your end. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 801 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 12/03/93 12:42a Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > any clues...dv was disastrous...3 meg survived after 6 hours .. > out of dv got another 7 meg... Do you have a 16550 on that port and did you add the SKYFIFO=True statement to the INI file? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 802 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/03/93 12:45a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If I were there, I would be only to happy to drop by and jave a look see, > but... it's a bit far to travle, and I am sure there must be someone > local that knows how to do this. Your concept is correct so John would have to add all nets that we feed so that anything he gets for this node would be sent to me and I would put it on hold for him. Since we have some nets and a lot of indevidual nodes receiving systems he would have to add each node to his routing file. Wonder if he would do that. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 803 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/01/93 10:29p Subj: WHATCHA USING? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What are you folks using in Calgary? C or Ku? If Ku, any > problems? Richard, I'm at about the same latitude to you here in Ottawa, and I'm getting perfect reception. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 804 To: PCUSENET GUYS Date: 12/02/93 8:53p Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know exactly what usenet groups are coming down the satellite I need to create a proper map.fido file for fredgate, and to Lance, your batchfiles worked great!!!!! thanx very very much for the help.. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORMAND MARINEAU Number: 805 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/30/93 6:38a Subj: FrancoMedia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, I bought a Disk Package with one year site feed, I receive correctly all the files, but I found not the file of Network FrancoMedia and I bougth that for to have this Network. When I want receive this Network ??? Thanks --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff015/b] * Origin: Innovatron, St-Boniface, QC (819)535-9072 (1:167/420) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 806 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/02/93 7:45a Subj: C or Ku? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Is there a restriction on using COM1 for the receiver? If so, -> > there workarounds? Thanks. -> -> Richard. I am running it on com1: over here with no problems. Maybe y -> problem with your serial port or a conflict with a com3 mouse? -> -> Just make sure you change all the info for com1 in the config file. T -> or 5 parameters if I recall correctly. Thanks (to you and others who responded). Are you running C or Ku? If Ku, are you using the PC dish and feedhorn or someone else's? Also, if Ku, any problems? --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 807 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 11:45p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 27, Boyd Goodin of 1:3615/50 wrote to Tim Dowell: Hello Boyd. BG> Thanks. I know that not all areas in the .NO file are carried BG> by the star system I call. I carry all of the NA and NO areas. I have you connected to all of them. :-) Enjoy! John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 808 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/02/93 11:55p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 28, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 wrote to Floyd Drennon: TB> It is quite a task to TB> teach everyone that routed netmail is NOT an option available TB> to those of us who get their feed via satellite. It most certainly is - just not via the satellite. It travels the same route that it always did. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 809 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/02/93 11:58p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 29, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 wrote to MARTIN BELCKE: TB> Somehow I have to find the star that is TB> sending it my old route and have them route it to 3615/50 TB> and have PC put it on hold for me. I don't think that PC and the Zone Hubs are going to set up routing files which include thousands of individual nodes. Isn't enough that we route it to your Net? You should be able to get it from there. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 810 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 12:02a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 29, Boyd Goodin of 1:3615/50 wrote to Jim Watson: > Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All BG> BG> Thats what I had except for the MsgTrack and I did not see one BG> routed netmail flow back to me from John for one of the systems. Correct. I don't route any netmail to you, but you are more than welcome to route anything you receive through me. It will then follow the conventional Backbone echomail channels to its destination. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 811 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/03/93 12:06a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 01, Dave Osborne of 1:123/301.2 wrote to Boyd Goodin: DO> Boyd, John simply routes any netmail to 3615/50 for any system DO> that's you feed in the same way you route it to him. Woah! For Boyd, it takes ONE line in his routing file to route to me. If I were to try to route to each person connected to PC (including those they feed) I'd need thousands of statements and they would probably need to be updated hourly. NOT so simple! :-) Also, everyone doing routing would have to do likewise, so it would be a problem for the other Zone Hubs and Region Hubs, too. DO He does it now for other nets via modem, ... Nets, yes. Not nodes. :-) John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY CHAMBERS Number: 812 To: ALL Date: 12/01/93 2:22p Subj: Assumption? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is it safe to assume that if this message is received by someone else, that my net's echomail is being sent properly? A reply would be nice... Thank you, GeeCee/2 --- 80486DX2-66 & OS/2 * Origin: Mystic Seaport Inn OiS/2 - ZyXEL - (804)497-2530 (1:275/37) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 813 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 7:56p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Craig Clark <=- TB> That is not possible unless Ptccmain changes its method of TB> moving the incoming file. Since some systems/hard drives are TB> very slow when they have to physically move the data it is a big TB> problem to guess how long the delay between files should be. If TB> a slow system is still moving a file when the next file starts TB> coming it would loose the data from the beginning of the TB> incoming file. Yes, that makes sense now. It should be possible however to have temporary files on each drive letter used in the config file. For example, if my system has C:, F: and G: configured as drives with areas where files are to go, then PTCCMAIN could create three temporary files. When a file comes in destined for F: the temporary data would be written to F:, then the FAT updated at the end of transmission of that file. The same could be done for other drive letters - no data would have to be physically moved at the end of a transfer. Perhaps Boyd will mention this idea to the programmer for PTCCMAIN. It would save me moving the files around in batch files after PTCCMAIN terminates. -=- Craig. ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 814 To: DAVE MILLER Date: 12/01/93 7:59p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Dave Miller to Craig Clark <=- DM> Yes there is a restriction that all areas must bo on the same drive. DM> This is stated in the documentation that came on your initial DM> distribution disk. I too would like to be able to specify different DM> drive. HOW about it BOYD will this feature be possible in a future DM> upgrade of the software? See my last message for an idea of how it might possibly be done. In regards to the docs, I'm one of those unusual people that actually RTM. I printed out the sparse documentation that came on the disk, but don't recall seeing anything about that restriction. I fought it for several hours before I gave up and put everything on one drive. I'll have to look for it again just out of curiousity. -=- Craig. ... Catch the Blue Wave! --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH SIPPY Number: 815 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/02/93 10:43a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DO> On the other side. If someone sends something to me, DO> it's routed via their links to John. John has a DO> routing statement that routes 123 to 3615/50. You get DO> it, put it on hold and I pick it up. It works! DO> Honest! :-) Pain in the ass to maintain, but it does work. What about the other two stars? They'd have to change their routing too. And then many nets probably too. When new people come online with PC it'd have to change each time. And then everyone on PC needs to make a list of who they feed so everyone knows. I see it as a large production to get set up correctly for everyone and not have things go into black holes. Keith --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium, Mail from geostationary orbit. (1:283/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 816 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 12/01/93 9:27p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dan! Monday November 29 1993, Dan Williamson writes to Jeff Ward: > Jeff Ward wrote in a message to Dan Williamson: JW>> What about the .BAG files, does it hanlde them as well? JW>> SOunds like a nifty little program. Do you have it fro Freq? JW>> Later! > Handles them fine. See my note in PCSITES. Available as FRED19Q.ARJ here or > from a site closer to you (maybe). Thanks for the reply. I'll look into it... Jeff * Origin: From The Desk Of Jeff Ward.... (1:379/500.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 817 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/01/93 9:28p Subj: Internet TimeTable Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! Tuesday November 30 1993, Todd Lyons writes to Jeff Ward: > I've not heard any dates that it WILL begin, but I've heard that it will > NOT be in full force until after New Year's. Don't know if that info is > still current or if it has been adjusted up or down. Rely on Boyd for > definite answers to those. Thanks for the reply. I'll be looking for the start date... Jeff * Origin: From The Desk Of Jeff Ward.... (1:379/500.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 818 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/01/93 9:29p Subj: Gmd messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! Monday November 29 1993, Mike Labbe writes to Jeff Ward: > Looks like the GMD messages are a thing of the past. None today!! Yep, same here. I did get a single grunged netmail message, but nothing else so far! > PC1128.ZIP also works like a charm... I'm very pleased with the performance > of the unit. I only wish the mail would come earlier in the AM and could > be automated in some way (or maybe one could be transmitted at 11pm, which > would arrive about 3am and be processed for the morning readers... I myself really don't have a problem with the system. Most of the nodes polling my system poll in the early morning hours. Since they were already accustomed to all their mail being on hold status at the hub, they are happy with the service they are getting. I have actually had one or two of them remark as to how fast the turn around was in some echos! So, with the mail run starting about 7:30am, I usually can have the bulk of the mail out bundled and ready to go by lunch. So far so good! Later! Jeff * Origin: From The Desk Of Jeff Ward.... (1:379/500.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 819 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/02/93 7:36p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Ed Marquis to Jim Dunmyer <=- EM> Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap EM> A: and B: to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a EM> bunch of single drives. I heard that there was some software that EM> would make the Pioneer drives appear as one drive letter with the EM> different CD's as subdirectories under it but don't know where to get EM> it or what it's called. I sure would love to see someone write a EM> driver that would do this. You could have 6 times more CD's online if EM> you used all Pioneer 604x drives. If you run Lantastic you can remap all of the server's logical drives to one drive letter on a workstation. From that one drive letter each of the server's drives appears as a different subdirectory. Using this method and multiple servers you could have around 676 CD-ROM's online at one time. I know of some sysops using this method to get more than a 100 CD-ROM's online simultaneously. With Lantastic try this: NET USE D: \\SERVER1 This is assuming you are not already using drive D:; use a different letter if you are. Note that there is no resource specified after the server name as there usually is. When you change to drive D: after doing this mapping, you will see what looks like the control directory (\LANTASTI.NET), except that inside each subdirectory you will have an entire disk (HD, CD-ROM, WORM, whatever). Try it - it may surprise you. It may also be quite usefull to you. -=- Craig. ... Blue Wave - World Tour - 1993 --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 820 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 7:23p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: -> -> MB> Routed netmail for commercial purposes is contrary to -> MB> fidonet. Fidonet is a NON-commerical enterprise. -> -> Give me a break... You must not have noticed that there is a -> commercial conference (CforSale) or you have overlooked the -> reality that the "for sale" conferences make up about 25% of the -> volume of mail we transfer. I did not say that I was using -> Fidonet for a commercial enterprise... that was your assumption. An assumption based on your wording.... "missed some business opportunities". -> I may have been trying to sell off old equipment left over from -> a recent upgrade. If you have never upgraded and sold off your If that were the case, it wouldn't be business opportunities. "Business" implies the operating of a business, which is covered in Policy 4 to wit: 1.3.6 Commercial Use FidoNet is an amateur network. Participants spend their own time and money to make it work for the good of all the users. It is not appropriate for commercial enterprise to take advantage of these volunteer efforts to further their own business interests. On the other hand, FidoNet provides a convenient and effective means for companies and users to exchange information, to the mutual benefit of all. Network Coordinators could be forced to subsidize commercial operations forwarding host-routed netmail, and could even find themselves involved in a lawsuit if any guarantee was suggested for mail delivery. It is therefor FidoNet policy is that commercial mail is not to be routed. "Commercial mail includes mail which furthers specific business interests without being of benefit to the net as a whole. Examples include company-internal mail, inter-corporate mail, specific product inquiries (price quotes, for instance), orders and their follow-ups, and all other subjects specifical related to business. <End of quote> Now if you were simply trying to sell of some old equipment that you personally own, then that is not conducting "business". However, from the wording you used, you implied differently. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 821 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/02/93 3:37p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Boyd, John simply routes any netmail to 3615/50 for any system that's -> in the same way you route it to him. He does it now for other nets v -> there is little difference between feeding you and feeding an REC. BIG DIFFERENCE!! The difference being this. In the routing statements, routing to an entire net is a single line entry. Routing to specific nodes in a net requires an entry for each node. In a net of 50 nodes, assuming 25 nodes are feed by a PC site, and 25 nodes are not, It would require a 50 line routing statement for both John and Boyd. Since in many cases, not all nodes in a particular net are connected through PC, it creates a problem with routed netmail. PC is NOT the same as an REC. In our Region (Region 11) there are over 1,000 nodes. Some connect through PC, some do not. Keeping track of which do and don't would be a nightmare, not to mention the routing statements that would need to be changed each time a new node is added/deleted from the nodelist. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 822 To: LARRY JAMES Date: 12/02/93 3:44p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Route to 123/301 for 123/all -> Route to 133/16 for 133/all -> . -> . -> . -> Route to UPLINK for DOWNLINK_ONLY -> Route to 369/1 for OTHERS -> -> OTHERS = those nets you have no links to. What about individual nodes that are connected to PC......what about nets that have a portion of the nodes being feed by a PC site, others being feed by land-line connections.....what about nets that have several PC sites.....what about.....what about.....ad nauseum....... The routing is simply to complicated to be handled in a manner that is feasible. An old adage in Fidonet is this: If it's important, send it direct, if it isn't route it. Routed netmail requires the consent of ALL nodes in the routing chain. If one doesn't consent, the routing fails. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 823 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/02/93 6:44p Subj: NEW BBS IN TOWN... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 3. Is there a way to not have the hard drive continually being used > during the satellite software? John, I've seen this question asked before, and here's my feelings: The HD has to write each block of data as it arrives, BUT: the head doesn't ususally move, it's already over the proper track. This is assuming that the drive is doing nothing else, of course. However, it would be nice to have an environment variable of SKYTEMP that would point to the place to store the temporary file as it's written so you could then copy it to the HD. That could potentially cause as many or more problems than it'd solve, of course..... --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 824 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 3:06p Subj: PROBLEM WITH PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry, -> Yes. In order for Ptccmain to move the file fast enough to pick up -> the next incoming file it uses a process that simply rewrites the -> file allocation table. This process does not work across drives -> since one drive may be on a different hard disk or a ram drive -> altogether. I'm running PTCCMAIN perfect as a user under a Novell system which doesn't have a File Allocation Table available to the logged in user. Saved my bacon many times running ill-behaved or delinquent programs. Just wondering how your proposed file move works. <grin> Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 825 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 3:41a Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: -> -> MB> Routed netmail for commercial purposes is contrary to -> MB> fidonet. Fidonet is a NON-commerical enterprise. -> -> Give me a break... You must not have noticed that there is a -> commercial conference (CforSale) He said routed *NETMAIL* not echo mail. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 826 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/03/93 3:50a Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > And, I'm adding a 4th Pioneer CD-ROM changer RSN. That'll require -> > a bunch of changes in configuration files, just to get enough -> > drive letters. I think I can make B: a network drive under -> > Lantastic.... -> -> Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap -> to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a bunch of -> drives. I heard that there was some software that would make the Pio -> drives appear as one drive letter with the different CD's as subdirec -> under it but don't know where to get it or what it's called. I just saw a post today about an unknown command you use in your startnet.bat that allows you to use each server as a drive letter and each drive as a sub dir. Would that help ya? --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 827 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/03/93 9:12a Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > I no longer have a "regular" place. PC is my "regular" place > Terry, don't you maintain any type of local or regional connect for > the > purpose of picking up local/regional echoes or routed netmail? Patty, I think he was complaining earlier that his NC just went down. Who knows, maybe he'll be the next NC? Take care! Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SCHEEL Number: 828 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/30/93 9:44p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to Frank Scheel: FS> I have been running hyperdisk with the 16550 with delayed FS> write on and have not noticed any particular problems. It FS> does stop the write to the hard drive every second. TB> Would you post those hyperdisk parameters you are using? TB> I'll check the docs in the meantime. Device=E:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\HYPERDKX.EXE c:1024 s t:2 m:3 Later, <_Frank_> --- timEd/2-B9 * Origin: Frank's Station (via OS2 from me to you) (1:19/148) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 829 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/02/93 9:21p Subj: New node getting this ech Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap A: and -> B: to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a bunch of -> single drives. I heard that there was some software that would make the -> Pioneer drives appear as one drive letter with the different CD's as -> subdirectories under it but don't know where to get it or what it's called. -> I sure would love to see someone write a driver that would do this. You -> could have 6 times more CD's online if you used all Pioneer 604x drives. I -> could just map drives on the fly in batch files but I want all CD's -> searchable and accessible at once. Sign me up too! <G> have two DRM-600's here with Novell and am out of letters. Using Map Assist, which has a 10 drive limit. --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 830 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/02/93 8:01p Subj: New BBS in town... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JOHN LUNDELL wrote in a message to All: JL> 3. Is there a way to not have the hard drive continually JL> being used during the satellite software? I hear a disk cache helps but I haven't got mine set up correctly yet. JL> thinking... a ramdrive would be nice for the temporary JL> file.. but you can't set that can you? No. The method of moving the inbound file from the temp file rewrites the file allocation table and does not physically move the data. JL> 4. Why does FIDOnet have so many people addressing messages JL> to SYSOP? They want your attention :) JL> I get all these messages each day flagged as JL> waiting for me only to find that they are from some user to JL> their sysop on some other BBS.. RIMEnet and others don't JL> tollerate that... Use your real name on your bbs. JL> 5. Way up here I am getting snow and ice buildup on my JL> dish.. it doesn't appear to affect the signal much, but I JL> can see during a bad storm the thing getting heavy and JL> moving offline.. can one get something to take care of that? Yes... your wife get the broom and go out and sweep it off. <grin> --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 831 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 10:58a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Terry Blount: BG> I am not aware of any effects not routing netmail would have BG> on us. We did not state anywhere that we would "route BG> netmail". We just said we would accept return echomail to be BG> sent back into landbased fidonet. That wasn't what I was talking about. I'm sure you have gotten many netmail messages asking questions and placing orders for a sat modem or to subscribe to PC. I would guess that a large number of those messages came to you via routed netmail. Had you not gotten them your business would not have grown as fast. BG> I call my hub BG> once a week to get anything there for our system. None of my BG> netmail replies are routed. I send everything direct. Me too. But I am sure you _PICK UP_ some routed net mail messages that are were routed to you. That is what I wanted to be able do. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 832 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 11:05a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Terry Blount: BG> This is it! I DONT GET any routed mail coming back from BG> john unless he would have every address of every system that BG> drops off mail to me. My point is that he is already sending it _somewhere_. If that somewhere is to you and you put it on hold that should solve the problem. BG> This is where changes within the fidonet structure will BG> have to changes to accept the satellite feed. I dont forsee BG> this happening anytime in the near furture. Sorry to hear that. But I understand because I have experienced the lack of support in a similar manner in my local net. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 833 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 11:11a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Souvestre wrote in a message to Terry Blount: TB> It is quite a task to TB> teach everyone that routed netmail is NOT an option available TB> to those of us who get their feed via satellite. JS> It most certainly is - just not via the satellite. It JS> travels the same route that it always did. The problem is that the entire fidonet "system" is always in flux. One day a bunch of new nodes join and the same day a bunch fall off. So we have weekly node updates to manage the changes. When there are no changes in key positions everything works smoothly but when nodes that distribute mail decide to shut down everyone below them has to go on a "hunting" mission to get a new feed. If routed netmail was on hold (to pick up) at the _same_ system (node) we call to _RETURN_ our reply mail the confusion and maintenance would be less and the reliability would be improved. Ps. Don't route a netmail reply... I probably won't get it. <grin> --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 834 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 11:19a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Souvestre wrote in a message to Terry Blount: JS> I don't think that PC and the Zone Hubs are going to set up JS> routing files which include thousands of individual nodes. JS> Isn't enough that we route it to your Net? You should be JS> able to get it from there. Humm..... do I smell an opportunity for business? <grin> I would pay to get it from the same place I leave off my mail. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 835 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 12/03/93 11:22a Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Craig Clark wrote in a message to Terry Blount: CC> Yes, that makes sense now. It should be possible however to CC> have temporary files on each drive letter used in the config CC> file. For example, if my system has C:, F: and G: CC> configured as drives with areas where files are to go, then CC> PTCCMAIN could create three temporary files. CC> When a file comes in destined for F: the temporary data CC> would be written to F:, then the FAT updated at the end of CC> transmission of that file. The same could be done for other CC> drive letters - no data would have to be physically moved at CC> the end of a transfer. CC> Perhaps Boyd will mention this idea to the programmer for CC> PTCCMAIN. It would save me moving the files around in batch CC> files after PTCCMAIN terminates. This is an excellent idea especially if the mail bundles (0000FFFF.?) could have their own separate directory by themselves. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 836 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 12/03/93 11:26a Subj: PROBLEM WITH PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HANS HOOGSTRAAT wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: HH> Just wondering how your proposed file move works. <grin> In Pascal you can simply move a file without moving the data like this: {$i-} Rename( TheFile, 'C:\NewDir\NewName.xyz' ); {$i+} If Ioresult = 17 Then Manually_copy_the_data... because you were not currently on the same drive. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 837 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 12/03/93 9:41p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: MB> Now if you were simply trying to sell of some old equipment MB> that you personally own, then that is not conducting MB> "business". This conference is used for "conducting business" as well as the support conference for Us Robotics, WordPerfect, Desqview, and Windows has at least four (4) conferences with a _TON_ of messages! NOT to mention at least 20 conferences that promote commercial BBS programs ...you mean to tell me that you are willing to carry all that echo mail containing promotions and update info, pricing, customer support, etc... but if a routed netmail message needs to pass through your system you would be _disturb_ if it contained info that would make a customer happy? I would certainly be happy to allow your routed netmail to pass through my system _ESPECIALLY_ if I thought it would benefit you emotionally, spiritually _OR_ financially. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY CASSETTY Number: 838 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 7:39a Subj: gmd netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> As of the last few weeks, every nite we receive GMD Netmail and it looks >> like the same messages too. If you have a moment, can you check into >> this ? > Problem has been found and is being taken care off. > ...Boyd Thanks........We didn't get any today..11/29 ...Barry --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: Dandy Line BBS "Have Shack Will YaK" Music City U S A (1:116/4000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 839 To: GARY CHAMBERS Date: 12/03/93 8:44p Subj: Assumption? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Gary! GC> Is it safe to assume that if this message is received by someone else, th GC> net's echomail is being sent properly? A reply would be nice... Here's typing to you from Mobile, AL....! :) ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * ..E-Mail has been returned due to insufficient voltage. --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 840 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 8:48p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Terry! > The only thing that you need to figure out is how to place the Why not just route it through Richard Wallen, our local NC? I have had good success doing it that way...Just a thought... ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * Authenticity of stolen taglines is not guaranteed. --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 841 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 4:34p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > One nice solution would be to have 10 systems, 6 in US and 4 > in Canada, that each had a region and everone in each reagina > would drop of mail to these systems instead of call directly to > us. In turn we supply a number for the 10 systems to drop off > mail to us. We would not have a problem with routing then as I > would only have 10 systems to set up and routing would be handle > from each system to mine then routed to what every of the 10 > systems that net is in. Oh well, I can dream though can't I? Not a bad idea for you to have 10 HUBs throughout the country for people to call into. They could also be a bank for mail and files for those who needed to file-request what they missed. These 10 could also be a perfect backup in case anything were to happen to the satellite uplink itself. If these 10 sites had ISDN in place, they could come in via the backdoor with ISDN and not worry about busy signals on the other lines. (this would be extremely important in the case of a system failure). I know of 3 other sites besides mine that have ISDN and have large enough systems to serve as backup and also have the expertise to act as a HUB. > Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this > and I came to work for him a year ago today. I mainly worked on > the Skylink project and now take care of the technical aspects > of Planet Connect. Which of course include taking care of the > computers and stuff at the uplink. Joe is the one with the > ideas, I just keep everything running a smooth as I can. That's Overholt..........<g> Good thing Joe has a sense of humor. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 842 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/03/93 5:01p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PCUTIL is a great program and does a good job of what it was written to do. Would it be possible to configure it to stop tossing mail bundles during a PCUTIL NEXT4 command if it comes to a bundle that is missing? I'd rather wait till that bundle shows up than to toss my mail out of sequence. If you'd like a beta tester to try this out, I'd be glad to volunteer. Thanks. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 843 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/03/93 9:26a Subj: C or Ku? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks (to you and others who responded). Are you running C or Ku? If > Ku, are you using the PC dish and feedhorn or someone else's? Also, if > Ku, any problems? I am using C band so I can't help you there. I was able to pick up a used one for a pretty good price. Has the motor and even a video. This way when the wind mannages to nudge the dish I can bring her back in line. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RIC WALSH Number: 844 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/03/93 6:56p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! Wednesday December 01 1993 23:00, Mike Labbe wrote to All: ML> Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the ML> satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* hours ML> per day on a 486). I'm using FMAIL and it takes about an hour (I'm feeding about 15 nodes). Most of the time is to zip up the out going packets. I'm only running a 386SX with 4mg memory on a peer to peer network. I still use DB to answer the phone and to send the packets but it was TOOOO slow to toss that much mail. Ric --- D.M.U.G. BBS Dayton OH * Origin: DMUG BBS Dayton,OH (1:110/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 845 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 9:43p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > DO He does it now for other nets via modem, ... > > Nets, yes. Not nodes. :-) If you would route for one net, you'd have to route for them all. As it stands now, each net should have a regional feed, but I can understand his want to eliminate one of his long distance polls. And on that note, would it still be extensive modifications to your route configs if you agreed to route whole nets' netmail? I don't run the complicated software that you do so it will probably be something more complex than the simple stuff we encounter daily. BTW, I pick up net 3807's mail from 1:147/7 (in case you have any messages that have been getting stranded and deleted). I got a call in to John now 'cause I'm curious why the R19COORD echo hasn't had a message in it for about 2 months. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 846 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/03/93 9:53p Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does anyone know exactly what usenet groups are coming down the > satellite I need to create a proper map.fido file for fredgate, and to alt.bbs alt.internet alt.bbs.ads alt.bbs.allsysop alt.bbs.doors alt.bbs.internet alt.bbs.lists alt.bbs.metal alt.bbs.pcboard alt.bbs.pcbuucp alt.bbs.unixbbs alt.bbs.uupcb alt.internet alt.internet.services comp comp.bbs comp.bbs.misc comp.bbs.waffle comp.org comp.org.fidonet This is what has come over so far. The usenet bundles have stopped for now though. I haven't seen anything since last Sunday. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 847 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 12/03/93 10:38p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CC> See my last message for an idea of how it might possibly be done. In CC> regards to the docs, I'm one of those unusual people that actually RTM. CC> I printed out the sparse documentation that came on the disk, but don't CC> recall seeing anything about that restriction. I fought it for several CC> hours before I gave up and put everything on one drive. I'll have to CC> look for it again just out of curiousity. CC> -=- Craig. It is there as a comment at the begining of the ACONFIG.SKY file. -=- Dave. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 848 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/04/93 12:00a Subj: NEW BBS IN TOWN... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to John Lundell, Jim Dunmyer said: > > 3. Is there a way to not have the hard drive continually being used > > during the satellite software? > John, > I've seen this question asked before, and here's my > feelings: The HD has to write each block of data as it > arrives, BUT: the head doesn't ususally move, it's already > over the proper track. This is assuming that the drive is > doing nothing else, of course. > > However, it would be nice to have an environment variable of > SKYTEMP that would point to the place to store the temporary > file as it's written so you could then copy it to the HD. > That could potentially cause as many or more problems than > it'd solve, of course..... Yep, totaly agree here... I have however been able to slow the writes down a touch by using an 8k fossil and a write cashe. It now only writes to the drive about every 8-15 blocks, with no data loss or bad results on the 286-16 that I use for PC only. John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 849 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 2:12a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/03/93> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> > Is there any chance that the weather stuff could be sent out in BG> > RIP Script format? Sure would make it easy to interface for the BG> > users to view them online. BG> > Joe BG> BG> We are looking into that possibility. YOu could do it on your end. BG> BG> BG> ...Boyd I have tried and my efforts are failures. Any suggestions on a program name to convert them. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * When in doubt, make it sound convincing --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 850 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 5:54p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, have a quick question and observation for you re: TVAGENT. Finally decided to take a look at the tv listings to see what they included, looked like, etc.. only to find that TVAGENT has to be run on the machine that has the dongle and actually runs Ptccmain. Further, the listings themselves are encrypted and can't be listed or viewed with anything but TVAGENT. With no offense to you or PC intended, what kind of a moron is going to interrupt his/her satellite transmissions to view a tv listing? I understand that you don't wish TVAGENT or the listings themselves to be distributed or used by other than the PC subscribers, but what of us who have multiple machines operating across a network? Or what of those folks who run PC as an event from their BBS on a single machine? I think such an action not only limits the usefulness of the listings but somewhat nullifies your reasons for including it. Could you perhaps reconsider and find some other way of protecting your interests with regards to TVAGENT? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 851 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/03/93 8:19a Subj: RE: THINGS... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > by next week, and then I'll really be getting some large volumes of > mail and this concerns me even more about the old hard drive. Don't worry about it, Glenn. I've been handling mail here since 1988, starting with CONFMAIL, later using Qmail. The HD thrashes for a couple of hours at a time, and I've yet to actually wear one out, usually outgrow it first. Same thing with my BBS; with all 7 lines going, the HD light looks like it's being defragged, not just servicing the lines. And, I've never worn out a drive there, either. If your drive goes belly-up while processsing all that mail, it just means that it was time anyway, and with drives now below a buck/meg, it shouldn't kill you to replace it. Especially if it's truly "old" as you indicate above. Heck, I took an ST-4096 off the BBS after a year or so, processed mail on it for about 3 or 4 years, then sold it to a guy who is STILL using it. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 852 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 12/01/93 11:34p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! Sunday November 28 1993, John Burton writes to George Peace: >> The secret weapon is copymail. CPML-122.ZIP. We point tick at an >> offline outbound area, toss files, and then turn copymail loose on >> it to merge the offline stuff into the live online area. Thanks for the Tip, George, works great for me in a special purpose...... but don't think it would work for my normal configuration. JB> Are you running stuff in your TIC.CFG PASSTHRU?? How do you keep TICK JB> from killing your passthru stuff??? Once I twigged to this little hummer... I set up a second, dummy, Tick.CFG pointing to my real outbound and this is the one that does the PassThru deleting... Appears to be working here. then again, I am only using this to hatch SatMail to the other Net Hubs, so TICK never really runs on the HATCH Tic.CFG file. Now, on a normal system where Tic is processing incoming file to downlinks, what is it that stops Tic from first looking at the CaopyMail outbound and, seeing no FLO files with pending Passthru files (since thery were all moved to the regular outbound last time) from then deleting all the PT and passthru files which are really still pending in FLO files in the real outbound? Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 853 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/01/93 11:07p Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Monday November 29 1993, Boyd Goodin writes to Jim Watson: >> <toss inbound mail, do not pack> >> <MsgTrack> >> Send xxxx 3615/50 >> Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All BG> Thats what I had except for the MsgTrack and I did not see one routed BG> netmail flow back to me from John for one of the systems. Why is this? BG> because the reply would follow the route back that would put the message BG> on the hub that is in the network. 'Zactly, correct, it would flow back to the local Net via Landlines. BG> If I routed a message thru 1:396/1 I BG> would have to call 1:3615/1 to get my reply. Yes, just as I, in Net153 would get the reply back via 153/752 who polls 396/1 for netmail. BG> It would not go thru 396/1. I believe it woud/should... Lets Track it. I send a netmail msg to 140/1 and route it via 3615/50 it would go to 3615/50 and would get caught in the Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All on that system, and would get sent via 396/1 396/1 would then bundle it up and send it to whomever the closest system is that polls him and has a connection with Net 140. The node in Net 140, would then get the msg from the local node who made the connection with John, or whomever was in the middle... This would look as follows 153/767 -> 3615/50 -> 396/1 -> 140/0 -> 140/1 Not overly efficient, but It really should work... BG> If I was in the 396 net then I would receive the reply thru 396/1 system. Yes, and you being in Net 3615 would receive the reply via your local Hub, but it would have been passed on via 396/1 BG> Maybe George can explain this a little better than me. But if I am wrong BG> then I will try again. I can be quite complicated, and if not implemented properly, it is a nightmare. If I were there, I would be only to happy to drop by and jave a look see, but... it's a bit far to travle, and I am sure there must be someone local that knows how to do this. Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 854 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/01/93 11:16p Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Patty! Saturday November 20 1993, Patty Pickett writes to David Blum: >> sending messages back to Boyd about the grunged messages. As I'm sure PP> Try looking for a Packet Exclude parameter in the GMD config, David, PP> and entering Boyd's address(es) there. I don't run GMD here myself, but PP> my fiance does. This only works in a partial manner, as any msg requiring a deletion will still generate a rsponse msg. What you need is KillerDOG and run this after Tossing and before packing netmail. KillerDOG -d 3615/50 -m Grunged_Message This will kill a netmsg to 3615/50 if the words Grunged Message appear in the subject line. KILLERDOG.ZIP 17,348 available for fREQ from 153/767 HST 14.4 153/797 DS 14.4 153/798 2400 Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 855 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/01/93 11:28p Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dennis! Tuesday November 30 1993, Dennis Powers writes to John Burton: JB>> to move the .?LO file, you'll see that TICK will then delete the JB>> passthru file, leaving the .TIC only... DP> I run 30+ file echos and 15 passthru echos without a problem. There are DP> two verbs in Tick that specify where the control files go. DP> IN i:\inbound\ DP> ZONE 1 i:\outbound\ <===== this is the outbound copymail sees DP> ZONE 8 i:\outbound.008\ <===== the actual outbounds are on drive J DP> NET 141 DP> NODE 1135 DP> TZ EST5EDT DP> REPLACE DP> STOPDUP i:\mail\TICK\dups\ DP> FLEA DP> hold j:\netmail\tickhold\ <===== This is where Tick writes the *.Tic & But, how do you prevent tick, when run again in a few minutes from seeing the .PT files in the tick hold dir, then looking in I:\Outbound\, and seeing no FLO files with and pending file tsfsrs from deleting the PT's and the Passthru Files. It will simply assume that everyone has already picked them up, since there are no FLO files remaining. The ONLY way I could get it to work (and it is unique as Hatch runs on one Tic.CFG while Tick runs against another) was to create two TIC cfgs, one for Hatch, the other for Tick (pointing to the real outbound so it would see the still pending FLO files thus not celete the passthru files. Cheers, Ervin ... A lie in time saves nine. --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE HEARN Number: 856 To: ALL Date: 12/01/93 9:06p Subj: 'dish' mail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I run a message only BBS in Ft. Worth, Texas and hear quite a bit about the sat. system for recieving mail. I have built a rather large unix server, netware server and have ethernet,tcp/ip, nfs, nis, atp, etc. I built the unix server for the purpose of purchasing pagesat for getting usenet piped into my network. It is my understanding that this type of system is available for fidonet. I would appreciated more information about this service, how much it costs, what is required to hook it up, etc. I am basically wanting something to dump mail on my bbs 24 hours a day and keep keep everything on fidonet coming in here. I would also like to know how messages would get out from here back into the net. I would like to do something with fidonet before I do something with usenet as I understand the usenet system really tears the hard drive up. About pagesat, is anyone in this echo running it? I am wanting to purchase this system in the very near future also. If there is an info pack I can freq from someone about either of these services, please let me know. --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Metroplex Mailbox*650 Echos*Metro 817-268-1422 (1:130/1008) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE HEARN Number: 857 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/01/93 9:16p Subj: PC Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mickey Ferguson stated these words of wisdom to Bill Wolf: MF> Bill, MF> I've been running it under DV since mid Oct. with EXCELLENT MF> results. This on a little 386DX-40 with 5meg of RAM. MF> The latest release of the software is (for me) as stable & MF> error free under DV as it is under plain old DOS. MF> The use of 16550's is IMPERATIVE as is a FAST hard drive. How big of a drive do you need/recommend for this? Kyle --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Metroplex Mailbox*650 Echos*Metro 817-268-1422 (1:130/1008) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 858 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/02/93 9:54a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Patty Pickett wrote in a message to Terry Blount: PP> Terry, don't you maintain any type of local or regional PP> connect for the purpose of picking up local/regional echoes PP> or routed netmail? Not since it has gone down. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 859 To: ALL Date: 12/01/93 11:00p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* hours per day on a 486). Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 860 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 12/02/93 11:24p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I thought you were calling John. When I was hooked into Steve Cross, > everything that was in Fidonet.No was available from him and he got his > feed from John. You might want to check on that. Yep I diod and I have everything in both areas. Sorry about that. Now if I could only get people to stop sending local areas to me I think I would be able to work on getting this routed netmail thing done, finalize the Usenet stuff, work on other networks, look into a europe feed, and also find time for a life. ;-) ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 861 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/02/93 11:42p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, like others, I would like to see a true solution to this > issue of routed netmail rather than simply not dealing with it. We are > extremely pleased with your concept (actually bought and installed the One nice solution would be to have 10 systems, 6 in US and 4 in Canada, that each had a region and everone in each reagina would drop of mail to these systems instead of call directly to us. In turn we supply a number for the 10 systems to drop off mail to us. We would not have a problem with routing then as I would only have 10 systems to set up and routing would be handle from each system to mine then routed to what every of the 10 systems that net is in. Oh well, I can dream though can't I? > On another, more upbeat note, can you please tell us something > about yourself, how this all started, etc. One of our group asked and > we said we did not know but that I would make inquiries. A little Nope, I like keeping things a mystery. All I can say is that I am 33 years old, single, and my hair is turning white from this job! ;-) > history might be of interst to the other folks as well. What does > management at the shop-at-home channel you are working for think of all > of this? When did you first get the idea? You are obviously an Could not tell you about what they think. We are two different companies founded by the same person. Joe Overhold works more of a consultant to S.A.H. nowadays. Shop At Home just uplinks our signal. I dont work for them. They could not afford me! > innovative guy and may wish to record this historical event. Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this and I came to work for him a year ago today. I mainly worked on the Skylink project and now take care of the technical aspects of Planet Connect. Which of course include taking care of the computers and stuff at the uplink. Joe is the one with the ideas, I just keep everything running a smooth as I can. > Best of success and please do not give up on the concept of routed > netmail. It may very well be a headache but it is important enough to > merit further review. I am not giving it up! Giving up is not in my vocabulary! JUst going to take a while thats all. Who knows, maybe someday this 10 system idea will be in operation. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 862 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/02/93 11:45p Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Okay, thanks Boyd! Your welcome. By the way. Someone is dropping of a local echo and while going thru my badecho area I noticed a few people talking about a wedding. Nice half drawing of a wedding gown in one of them. You would not be tying the knot by any chance? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 863 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 12/02/93 11:46p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > well whatever rate, if it doesnt include Canada, they're rather USEless > <grin> > and to think one of my bbs's callers uploaded me a weather pic of the > northern hemisphere not much more than a week ago..wonder where he's > getting his :) > Cheers, Ken Probably wefax. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 864 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 11:45a Subj: Routed netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Basically, there isn't any reason you can't route netmail recieved via > landline via John's system. Sure there is, if John won't route it to begin with. Boyd Goodin scripted in a message to Jim Watson: Lemme jump into the foray here ... BG> Ok. Tell me this. WHERE are the replies (coming back) BG> going to be routed to? Even John told me this is one way. ... and see if I confuse things more. How does a netmail message from one system get routed to another? Well, it goes to the originating system's uplink, from there to his uplink, then to that system's uplink and so on up the chain until it hits a system with a routing control definition for the destination system. Then it travels a similiar path in reverse until it arrives on the destination system. This may involve 2 systems, or 20 or more; the exact routing is unpredictable and requires each intermediate system to know where to route netmail -- there are a lot of people (and personalities!) involved and some aren't too quick on changing things so it's quite possible for netmail to get deleted or end up batted around in a routing loop between a few systems. The key to all this is the destination address of the message, not the originating address, not the intermediate routing points, and definately not any AKAs such as 3615/51. There are no guarantees routing netmail; nets have better chances than independants as the NC will end up with the message and is obliged by policy to handle it. Ok, so where does that leave PlanetConnect subscribers? I don't know what PC's plans are, whether they plan catering to more than just the FIDOnet community or whatever, but in reference to routing netmail (FIDO netmail, that is) there is no reason Boyd cannot hold netmail for PC subscribers at 3615/50. (Sending it across the bird I don't find attractive at all -- that would create some serious loops: as example anything routed through here not destined for any of my downlinks gets routed out; I serve as a regional hub in R19. It'll end up back on 396/1, where it'll pass along to Boyd, who puts it in the air, back to me, along to 396/1 ... ) Getting stuff routed into 3615/50 for subscribers is the catch, however. Basically what it boils down to is this: John Souveste needs send any routed netmail that hits his system destined to a PlanetConnect subscriber, through 3615/50. This means JS has to be kept current on subscribers to update his routing (let's not forget he has some major routing tasks already involving all the nets and independants that get their mail via his system) and since PlanetConnect is a commercial enterprise the "FIDO-legality" of routing netmail through it is debatable anyway. John may not wish to be involved with the "commercialization" of FIDOnet or whatever. I do not know if this is his reason nor do I presume to speak for John. A solution? Technically it's quite possible IF John can be convinced. Right now a one-way routing is possible from 3615/50 to 396/1. Everyone is welcome to route their netmail through my system, but I cannot guarantee delivery. (Any tracking responses might not make it back too as I route anything that isn't destined for anyone feeding out of here!) If a subscriber isn't local to a net that can handle inbound netmail, arrange for a regional feed with the local RC and set up a polling schedule with him or one of his RHubs -- an RC carries some clout and can arrange routing. An alternate idea is to establish a seperate zone for subscribers who aren't local to a net and use 3615/50 as the gateway. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 865 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 12:45p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin scripted in a message to Jim Watson: BG> Why is this? because the reply would follow the BG> route back that would put the message on the hub that is in BG> the network. Not always true. Depends on who's doing the routing. If I receive mail for an R19 independant who doesn't poll here, I send it directly to RC19. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 866 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 12:50p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin scripted in a message to Dave Osborne: BG> But it did not work. Look at the GMD's. I think they BG> were send all over the universe. GMD responses are netmail. NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER NEVER but NEVER put netmail on the bird as it will get bounced and routed by everyone who receives it and routes netmail. In 3615/50's routing definitions, HOLD a subscriber's mail and ROUTE through him his downlink's mail so he can collect any netmail when he delivers any echomail responses. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 867 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:10a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > First... Can I join your net? My net fell apart... we lost our > feed and the sysop of the local hub went on vacation and his Have to check with my hub on that. > system hasn't answered the phone in over a week. He is > discouraged that about 1/3 of his feeds have dropped out and > connected to PC and stopped helping pay the long distance phone > bill. He is a good guy but just isn't ready to accept this > technology. I am sorry to hear about that. > Second... if you put netmail on hold so that we picked it up > when we polled you with reply mail it would not be sent by > satellite and we should be able to get only the mail intended. Well from what every tells me the star system will have to set up each node that I have to allow returned mail to be routed to me. I am under no obligation to forward yours or anyones routed netmail. > "normal" means like I did before I joined PC and it is simply > not possible to teach everyone in fido land that crash netmail is > the only solution to contact me. I guess things in fidonet will have to change. >> can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the >> effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not >> work. I am not aware of any effects not routing netmail would have on us. We did not state anywhere that we would "route netmail". We just said we would accept return echomail to be sent back into landbased fidonet. > Let me join your net and then do whatever you are doing for your > "normal" non satellite feeds. How do they get their routed > netmail? I don't see it coming in over the satellite. Dont have any "normal" non satellite feeds. I call my hub once a week to get anything there for our system. None of my netmail replies are routed. I send everything direct. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 868 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:15a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The only thing that you need to figure out is how to place the > routed netmail from John on hold for the node to pick up when we This is it! I DONT GET any routed mail coming back from john unless he would have every address of every system that drops off mail to me. > You probably only have to give John a list of the nodes you > supply mail to so that he can send their routed net mail to you. I would think that his routing file is big enough as it is. > If he can't do that then we need to get a new node number so > that he can. I'll change node numbers today if it will fix this > problem. I can no longer get my routed netmail anyway so this > node number I have now is practically useless. This is where changes within the fidonet structure will have to changes to accept the satellite feed. I dont forsee this happening anytime in the near furture. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 869 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:18a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> If I routed a message thru 1:396/1 > ... > BG> It would not go thru 396/1. > I don't understand those two statements. They appear > contradictory to me. Here I route a netmail message to 1:245/89 lets say and I route it through 1:396/1. When 245/89 replies via routed mail, right now, as it stands, I would have to call 3615/1 to pick up that reply. I cant put it any simpler. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 870 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 12:19a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Maybe you accidentally found a new way to contact God. <Grin> Working on it! ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 871 To: RICK MORRIS Date: 12/03/93 12:20a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I've read a lot about routed netmail recently and would like to make a > clarification here... routed netmail is supposed to be routed through the > *C's... even though the *EC's have been nice enough to do it, it's not > something that a hub has to do if they don't want to... Thank you for the clearification. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 872 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/03/93 12:23a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That's a good answer, Moosehead. It should work, but I believe your > first priority should be perfectly smooth echomail and files day in and > day out. After that, routed netmail should be fairly easy to implement. > later dude and keep up the good work. Thanks for the encouragement hosser. I should of became a doctor. I think it is less stressfull than this occupation. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 873 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 12/03/93 12:25a Subj: Re: ECHO'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd ! > How about providing the K-12 Network Echos. Have you talked to them ? > Sure would like to see the SAT. system deliver more goods ! :) Havent talked with them. WGA should be going over any day now. Also a sports online magazine. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 874 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/03/93 12:28a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Now if John wants to reply, the message gets addressed to 141/1135 and > will go to the system *he* has set up to forward to, 141/1 for example > who forwards it to 141/1240 who forwards it to 141/1130 who fowards it to > me at 141/1135. He would have to put every system that calls me in his route statement too , wouldn't he? > I would also suggest that you start using session passwords for all mail > to prevent someone from dumping both netmail and bogus Echo mail on your > system. especially since with your setup, you can't run secure. We are. Starting Sunday if nobody has a session password they wont be able to drop anything off. .....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 875 To: GARY BERG Date: 12/03/93 12:29a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: NO Private: No >> GMD's. I think they were send all over the universe. > Depends on how the sats antennae are pointed (*) Ha!!!!!!!!!!!! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 876 To: JEFF WALLACH Date: 12/03/93 12:30a Subj: Re: DRIG package requested Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Would you PLEASE look for our package and send out: > 1 Ku Band install viedo tape > 2 Updated software It is being sent. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 877 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 12/03/93 12:31a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I guess we'll just have to be patient . . . :-) Getting there. Just got to kick them a few more times.......... ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 878 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 12/03/93 12:33a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If you're pulling from John, you should be (and are) getting these areas > already, so it isn't a problem. Got that worked out. Seems a lot of systems like to send me there local areas and we I dont mind reading the R18SYSOP echo but it is just for of politics and such. I am still getting messages from the BITCH echo and it is not in either of the FIDONET.N* files! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 879 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/03/93 12:38a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > for routed netmail. Although Message Track does a good job, it doesn't > allow remote control. But, this CAN all be done. Honest! :-) I believe you! But John's routing file would be enormous, not to mention how enormous it is now. > Don't say it can't be done. It already is. I am not saying it cant be done. I have other priorities at the moment. If John was to add all the nets than fine by me, I will give it another try. But nobody better start complaining if they happen to get a few messages not address to thier system ending up in thier netmail area. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 880 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/03/93 12:39a Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You're forgiven..... just as soon as I get my dish. :-) It was sent out yesterday. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 881 To: LARRY JAMES Date: 12/03/93 12:40a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Say hello to Veger:-) Who's Veger? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 882 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/03/93 12:40a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is there any chance that the weather stuff could be sent out in > RIP Script format? Sure would make it easy to interface for the > users to view them online. > Joe We are looking into that possibility. YOu could do it on your end. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 883 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 12/03/93 12:42a Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > any clues...dv was disastrous...3 meg survived after 6 hours .. > out of dv got another 7 meg... Do you have a 16550 on that port and did you add the SKYFIFO=True statement to the INI file? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 884 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/03/93 12:45a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If I were there, I would be only to happy to drop by and jave a look see, > but... it's a bit far to travle, and I am sure there must be someone > local that knows how to do this. Your concept is correct so John would have to add all nets that we feed so that anything he gets for this node would be sent to me and I would put it on hold for him. Since we have some nets and a lot of indevidual nodes receiving systems he would have to add each node to his routing file. Wonder if he would do that. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 885 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/01/93 10:29p Subj: WHATCHA USING? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What are you folks using in Calgary? C or Ku? If Ku, any > problems? Richard, I'm at about the same latitude to you here in Ottawa, and I'm getting perfect reception. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 886 To: PCUSENET GUYS Date: 12/02/93 8:53p Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone know exactly what usenet groups are coming down the satellite I need to create a proper map.fido file for fredgate, and to Lance, your batchfiles worked great!!!!! thanx very very much for the help.. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NORMAND MARINEAU Number: 887 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/30/93 6:38a Subj: FrancoMedia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, I bought a Disk Package with one year site feed, I receive correctly all the files, but I found not the file of Network FrancoMedia and I bougth that for to have this Network. When I want receive this Network ??? Thanks --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff015/b] * Origin: Innovatron, St-Boniface, QC (819)535-9072 (1:167/420) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 888 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/02/93 7:45a Subj: C or Ku? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Is there a restriction on using COM1 for the receiver? If so, -> > there workarounds? Thanks. -> -> Richard. I am running it on com1: over here with no problems. Maybe y -> problem with your serial port or a conflict with a com3 mouse? -> -> Just make sure you change all the info for com1 in the config file. T -> or 5 parameters if I recall correctly. Thanks (to you and others who responded). Are you running C or Ku? If Ku, are you using the PC dish and feedhorn or someone else's? Also, if Ku, any problems? --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 889 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 11:45p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 27, Boyd Goodin of 1:3615/50 wrote to Tim Dowell: Hello Boyd. BG> Thanks. I know that not all areas in the .NO file are carried BG> by the star system I call. I carry all of the NA and NO areas. I have you connected to all of them. :-) Enjoy! John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 890 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/02/93 11:55p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 28, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 wrote to Floyd Drennon: TB> It is quite a task to TB> teach everyone that routed netmail is NOT an option available TB> to those of us who get their feed via satellite. It most certainly is - just not via the satellite. It travels the same route that it always did. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 891 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/02/93 11:58p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 29, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 wrote to MARTIN BELCKE: TB> Somehow I have to find the star that is TB> sending it my old route and have them route it to 3615/50 TB> and have PC put it on hold for me. I don't think that PC and the Zone Hubs are going to set up routing files which include thousands of individual nodes. Isn't enough that we route it to your Net? You should be able to get it from there. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 892 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 12:02a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Nov 29, Boyd Goodin of 1:3615/50 wrote to Jim Watson: > Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All BG> BG> Thats what I had except for the MsgTrack and I did not see one BG> routed netmail flow back to me from John for one of the systems. Correct. I don't route any netmail to you, but you are more than welcome to route anything you receive through me. It will then follow the conventional Backbone echomail channels to its destination. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 893 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/03/93 12:06a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 01, Dave Osborne of 1:123/301.2 wrote to Boyd Goodin: DO> Boyd, John simply routes any netmail to 3615/50 for any system DO> that's you feed in the same way you route it to him. Woah! For Boyd, it takes ONE line in his routing file to route to me. If I were to try to route to each person connected to PC (including those they feed) I'd need thousands of statements and they would probably need to be updated hourly. NOT so simple! :-) Also, everyone doing routing would have to do likewise, so it would be a problem for the other Zone Hubs and Region Hubs, too. DO He does it now for other nets via modem, ... Nets, yes. Not nodes. :-) John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GARY CHAMBERS Number: 894 To: ALL Date: 12/01/93 2:22p Subj: Assumption? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is it safe to assume that if this message is received by someone else, that my net's echomail is being sent properly? A reply would be nice... Thank you, GeeCee/2 --- 80486DX2-66 & OS/2 * Origin: Mystic Seaport Inn OiS/2 - ZyXEL - (804)497-2530 (1:275/37) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 895 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 7:56p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Terry Blount to Craig Clark <=- TB> That is not possible unless Ptccmain changes its method of TB> moving the incoming file. Since some systems/hard drives are TB> very slow when they have to physically move the data it is a big TB> problem to guess how long the delay between files should be. If TB> a slow system is still moving a file when the next file starts TB> coming it would loose the data from the beginning of the TB> incoming file. Yes, that makes sense now. It should be possible however to have temporary files on each drive letter used in the config file. For example, if my system has C:, F: and G: configured as drives with areas where files are to go, then PTCCMAIN could create three temporary files. When a file comes in destined for F: the temporary data would be written to F:, then the FAT updated at the end of transmission of that file. The same could be done for other drive letters - no data would have to be physically moved at the end of a transfer. Perhaps Boyd will mention this idea to the programmer for PTCCMAIN. It would save me moving the files around in batch files after PTCCMAIN terminates. -=- Craig. ... "Scotty, beam me up another Blue Wave message." --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 896 To: DAVE MILLER Date: 12/01/93 7:59p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Dave Miller to Craig Clark <=- DM> Yes there is a restriction that all areas must bo on the same drive. DM> This is stated in the documentation that came on your initial DM> distribution disk. I too would like to be able to specify different DM> drive. HOW about it BOYD will this feature be possible in a future DM> upgrade of the software? See my last message for an idea of how it might possibly be done. In regards to the docs, I'm one of those unusual people that actually RTM. I printed out the sparse documentation that came on the disk, but don't recall seeing anything about that restriction. I fought it for several hours before I gave up and put everything on one drive. I'll have to look for it again just out of curiousity. -=- Craig. ... Catch the Blue Wave! --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH SIPPY Number: 897 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/02/93 10:43a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No DO> On the other side. If someone sends something to me, DO> it's routed via their links to John. John has a DO> routing statement that routes 123 to 3615/50. You get DO> it, put it on hold and I pick it up. It works! DO> Honest! :-) Pain in the ass to maintain, but it does work. What about the other two stars? They'd have to change their routing too. And then many nets probably too. When new people come online with PC it'd have to change each time. And then everyone on PC needs to make a list of who they feed so everyone knows. I see it as a large production to get set up correctly for everyone and not have things go into black holes. Keith --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium, Mail from geostationary orbit. (1:283/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 898 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 12/01/93 9:27p Subj: PCUSENET Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Dan! Monday November 29 1993, Dan Williamson writes to Jeff Ward: > Jeff Ward wrote in a message to Dan Williamson: JW>> What about the .BAG files, does it hanlde them as well? JW>> SOunds like a nifty little program. Do you have it fro Freq? JW>> Later! > Handles them fine. See my note in PCSITES. Available as FRED19Q.ARJ here or > from a site closer to you (maybe). Thanks for the reply. I'll look into it... Jeff * Origin: From The Desk Of Jeff Ward.... (1:379/500.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 899 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/01/93 9:28p Subj: Internet TimeTable Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! Tuesday November 30 1993, Todd Lyons writes to Jeff Ward: > I've not heard any dates that it WILL begin, but I've heard that it will > NOT be in full force until after New Year's. Don't know if that info is > still current or if it has been adjusted up or down. Rely on Boyd for > definite answers to those. Thanks for the reply. I'll be looking for the start date... Jeff * Origin: From The Desk Of Jeff Ward.... (1:379/500.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 900 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/01/93 9:29p Subj: Gmd messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! Monday November 29 1993, Mike Labbe writes to Jeff Ward: > Looks like the GMD messages are a thing of the past. None today!! Yep, same here. I did get a single grunged netmail message, but nothing else so far! > PC1128.ZIP also works like a charm... I'm very pleased with the performance > of the unit. I only wish the mail would come earlier in the AM and could > be automated in some way (or maybe one could be transmitted at 11pm, which > would arrive about 3am and be processed for the morning readers... I myself really don't have a problem with the system. Most of the nodes polling my system poll in the early morning hours. Since they were already accustomed to all their mail being on hold status at the hub, they are happy with the service they are getting. I have actually had one or two of them remark as to how fast the turn around was in some echos! So, with the mail run starting about 7:30am, I usually can have the bulk of the mail out bundled and ready to go by lunch. So far so good! Later! Jeff * Origin: From The Desk Of Jeff Ward.... (1:379/500.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CRAIG CLARK Number: 901 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/02/93 7:36p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Ed Marquis to Jim Dunmyer <=- EM> Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap EM> A: and B: to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a EM> bunch of single drives. I heard that there was some software that EM> would make the Pioneer drives appear as one drive letter with the EM> different CD's as subdirectories under it but don't know where to get EM> it or what it's called. I sure would love to see someone write a EM> driver that would do this. You could have 6 times more CD's online if EM> you used all Pioneer 604x drives. If you run Lantastic you can remap all of the server's logical drives to one drive letter on a workstation. From that one drive letter each of the server's drives appears as a different subdirectory. Using this method and multiple servers you could have around 676 CD-ROM's online at one time. I know of some sysops using this method to get more than a 100 CD-ROM's online simultaneously. With Lantastic try this: NET USE D: \\SERVER1 This is assuming you are not already using drive D:; use a different letter if you are. Note that there is no resource specified after the server name as there usually is. When you change to drive D: after doing this mapping, you will see what looks like the control directory (\LANTASTI.NET), except that inside each subdirectory you will have an entire disk (HD, CD-ROM, WORM, whatever). Try it - it may surprise you. It may also be quite usefull to you. -=- Craig. ... Blue Wave - World Tour - 1993 --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: -={ Christian Deliverance BBS, Devonshire BERMUDA }=- (1:3658/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 902 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 7:23p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: -> -> MB> Routed netmail for commercial purposes is contrary to -> MB> fidonet. Fidonet is a NON-commerical enterprise. -> -> Give me a break... You must not have noticed that there is a -> commercial conference (CforSale) or you have overlooked the -> reality that the "for sale" conferences make up about 25% of the -> volume of mail we transfer. I did not say that I was using -> Fidonet for a commercial enterprise... that was your assumption. An assumption based on your wording.... "missed some business opportunities". -> I may have been trying to sell off old equipment left over from -> a recent upgrade. If you have never upgraded and sold off your If that were the case, it wouldn't be business opportunities. "Business" implies the operating of a business, which is covered in Policy 4 to wit: 1.3.6 Commercial Use FidoNet is an amateur network. Participants spend their own time and money to make it work for the good of all the users. It is not appropriate for commercial enterprise to take advantage of these volunteer efforts to further their own business interests. On the other hand, FidoNet provides a convenient and effective means for companies and users to exchange information, to the mutual benefit of all. Network Coordinators could be forced to subsidize commercial operations forwarding host-routed netmail, and could even find themselves involved in a lawsuit if any guarantee was suggested for mail delivery. It is therefor FidoNet policy is that commercial mail is not to be routed. "Commercial mail includes mail which furthers specific business interests without being of benefit to the net as a whole. Examples include company-internal mail, inter-corporate mail, specific product inquiries (price quotes, for instance), orders and their follow-ups, and all other subjects specifical related to business. <End of quote> Now if you were simply trying to sell of some old equipment that you personally own, then that is not conducting "business". However, from the wording you used, you implied differently. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 903 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/02/93 3:37p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Boyd, John simply routes any netmail to 3615/50 for any system that's -> in the same way you route it to him. He does it now for other nets v -> there is little difference between feeding you and feeding an REC. BIG DIFFERENCE!! The difference being this. In the routing statements, routing to an entire net is a single line entry. Routing to specific nodes in a net requires an entry for each node. In a net of 50 nodes, assuming 25 nodes are feed by a PC site, and 25 nodes are not, It would require a 50 line routing statement for both John and Boyd. Since in many cases, not all nodes in a particular net are connected through PC, it creates a problem with routed netmail. PC is NOT the same as an REC. In our Region (Region 11) there are over 1,000 nodes. Some connect through PC, some do not. Keeping track of which do and don't would be a nightmare, not to mention the routing statements that would need to be changed each time a new node is added/deleted from the nodelist. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 904 To: LARRY JAMES Date: 12/02/93 3:44p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Route to 123/301 for 123/all -> Route to 133/16 for 133/all -> . -> . -> . -> Route to UPLINK for DOWNLINK_ONLY -> Route to 369/1 for OTHERS -> -> OTHERS = those nets you have no links to. What about individual nodes that are connected to PC......what about nets that have a portion of the nodes being feed by a PC site, others being feed by land-line connections.....what about nets that have several PC sites.....what about.....what about.....ad nauseum....... The routing is simply to complicated to be handled in a manner that is feasible. An old adage in Fidonet is this: If it's important, send it direct, if it isn't route it. Routed netmail requires the consent of ALL nodes in the routing chain. If one doesn't consent, the routing fails. --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 905 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/02/93 6:44p Subj: NEW BBS IN TOWN... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 3. Is there a way to not have the hard drive continually being used > during the satellite software? John, I've seen this question asked before, and here's my feelings: The HD has to write each block of data as it arrives, BUT: the head doesn't ususally move, it's already over the proper track. This is assuming that the drive is doing nothing else, of course. However, it would be nice to have an environment variable of SKYTEMP that would point to the place to store the temporary file as it's written so you could then copy it to the HD. That could potentially cause as many or more problems than it'd solve, of course..... --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 906 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/01/93 3:06p Subj: PROBLEM WITH PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry, -> Yes. In order for Ptccmain to move the file fast enough to pick up -> the next incoming file it uses a process that simply rewrites the -> file allocation table. This process does not work across drives -> since one drive may be on a different hard disk or a ram drive -> altogether. I'm running PTCCMAIN perfect as a user under a Novell system which doesn't have a File Allocation Table available to the logged in user. Saved my bacon many times running ill-behaved or delinquent programs. Just wondering how your proposed file move works. <grin> Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 907 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 3:41a Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: -> -> MB> Routed netmail for commercial purposes is contrary to -> MB> fidonet. Fidonet is a NON-commerical enterprise. -> -> Give me a break... You must not have noticed that there is a -> commercial conference (CforSale) He said routed *NETMAIL* not echo mail. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 908 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/03/93 3:50a Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > And, I'm adding a 4th Pioneer CD-ROM changer RSN. That'll require -> > a bunch of changes in configuration files, just to get enough -> > drive letters. I think I can make B: a network drive under -> > Lantastic.... -> -> Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap -> to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a bunch of -> drives. I heard that there was some software that would make the Pio -> drives appear as one drive letter with the different CD's as subdirec -> under it but don't know where to get it or what it's called. I just saw a post today about an unknown command you use in your startnet.bat that allows you to use each server as a drive letter and each drive as a sub dir. Would that help ya? --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 909 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/03/93 9:12a Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > I no longer have a "regular" place. PC is my "regular" place > Terry, don't you maintain any type of local or regional connect for > the > purpose of picking up local/regional echoes or routed netmail? Patty, I think he was complaining earlier that his NC just went down. Who knows, maybe he'll be the next NC? Take care! Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SCHEEL Number: 910 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/30/93 9:44p Subj: Re: Things... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to Frank Scheel: FS> I have been running hyperdisk with the 16550 with delayed FS> write on and have not noticed any particular problems. It FS> does stop the write to the hard drive every second. TB> Would you post those hyperdisk parameters you are using? TB> I'll check the docs in the meantime. Device=E:\QEMM\LOADHI.SYS /R:2 C:\HYPERDKX.EXE c:1024 s t:2 m:3 Later, <_Frank_> --- timEd/2-B9 * Origin: Frank's Station (via OS2 from me to you) (1:19/148) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 911 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/02/93 9:21p Subj: New node getting this ech Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Don't feel bad. I've run out of drive letters myself. Had to remap A: and -> B: to get two more CD's online. I run one Pioneer drive and a bunch of -> single drives. I heard that there was some software that would make the -> Pioneer drives appear as one drive letter with the different CD's as -> subdirectories under it but don't know where to get it or what it's called. -> I sure would love to see someone write a driver that would do this. You -> could have 6 times more CD's online if you used all Pioneer 604x drives. I -> could just map drives on the fly in batch files but I want all CD's -> searchable and accessible at once. Sign me up too! <G> have two DRM-600's here with Novell and am out of letters. Using Map Assist, which has a 10 drive limit. --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 912 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/02/93 8:01p Subj: New BBS in town... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JOHN LUNDELL wrote in a message to All: JL> 3. Is there a way to not have the hard drive continually JL> being used during the satellite software? I hear a disk cache helps but I haven't got mine set up correctly yet. JL> thinking... a ramdrive would be nice for the temporary JL> file.. but you can't set that can you? No. The method of moving the inbound file from the temp file rewrites the file allocation table and does not physically move the data. JL> 4. Why does FIDOnet have so many people addressing messages JL> to SYSOP? They want your attention :) JL> I get all these messages each day flagged as JL> waiting for me only to find that they are from some user to JL> their sysop on some other BBS.. RIMEnet and others don't JL> tollerate that... Use your real name on your bbs. JL> 5. Way up here I am getting snow and ice buildup on my JL> dish.. it doesn't appear to affect the signal much, but I JL> can see during a bad storm the thing getting heavy and JL> moving offline.. can one get something to take care of that? Yes... your wife get the broom and go out and sweep it off. <grin> --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 913 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 10:58a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Terry Blount: BG> I am not aware of any effects not routing netmail would have BG> on us. We did not state anywhere that we would "route BG> netmail". We just said we would accept return echomail to be BG> sent back into landbased fidonet. That wasn't what I was talking about. I'm sure you have gotten many netmail messages asking questions and placing orders for a sat modem or to subscribe to PC. I would guess that a large number of those messages came to you via routed netmail. Had you not gotten them your business would not have grown as fast. BG> I call my hub BG> once a week to get anything there for our system. None of my BG> netmail replies are routed. I send everything direct. Me too. But I am sure you _PICK UP_ some routed net mail messages that are were routed to you. That is what I wanted to be able do. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 914 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 11:05a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Terry Blount: BG> This is it! I DONT GET any routed mail coming back from BG> john unless he would have every address of every system that BG> drops off mail to me. My point is that he is already sending it _somewhere_. If that somewhere is to you and you put it on hold that should solve the problem. BG> This is where changes within the fidonet structure will BG> have to changes to accept the satellite feed. I dont forsee BG> this happening anytime in the near furture. Sorry to hear that. But I understand because I have experienced the lack of support in a similar manner in my local net. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 915 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 11:11a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Souvestre wrote in a message to Terry Blount: TB> It is quite a task to TB> teach everyone that routed netmail is NOT an option available TB> to those of us who get their feed via satellite. JS> It most certainly is - just not via the satellite. It JS> travels the same route that it always did. The problem is that the entire fidonet "system" is always in flux. One day a bunch of new nodes join and the same day a bunch fall off. So we have weekly node updates to manage the changes. When there are no changes in key positions everything works smoothly but when nodes that distribute mail decide to shut down everyone below them has to go on a "hunting" mission to get a new feed. If routed netmail was on hold (to pick up) at the _same_ system (node) we call to _RETURN_ our reply mail the confusion and maintenance would be less and the reliability would be improved. Ps. Don't route a netmail reply... I probably won't get it. <grin> --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 916 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 11:19a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Souvestre wrote in a message to Terry Blount: JS> I don't think that PC and the Zone Hubs are going to set up JS> routing files which include thousands of individual nodes. JS> Isn't enough that we route it to your Net? You should be JS> able to get it from there. Humm..... do I smell an opportunity for business? <grin> I would pay to get it from the same place I leave off my mail. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 917 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 12/03/93 11:22a Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Craig Clark wrote in a message to Terry Blount: CC> Yes, that makes sense now. It should be possible however to CC> have temporary files on each drive letter used in the config CC> file. For example, if my system has C:, F: and G: CC> configured as drives with areas where files are to go, then CC> PTCCMAIN could create three temporary files. CC> When a file comes in destined for F: the temporary data CC> would be written to F:, then the FAT updated at the end of CC> transmission of that file. The same could be done for other CC> drive letters - no data would have to be physically moved at CC> the end of a transfer. CC> Perhaps Boyd will mention this idea to the programmer for CC> PTCCMAIN. It would save me moving the files around in batch CC> files after PTCCMAIN terminates. This is an excellent idea especially if the mail bundles (0000FFFF.?) could have their own separate directory by themselves. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 918 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 12/03/93 11:26a Subj: PROBLEM WITH PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No HANS HOOGSTRAAT wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: HH> Just wondering how your proposed file move works. <grin> In Pascal you can simply move a file without moving the data like this: {$i-} Rename( TheFile, 'C:\NewDir\NewName.xyz' ); {$i+} If Ioresult = 17 Then Manually_copy_the_data... because you were not currently on the same drive. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 919 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 12/03/93 9:41p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MARTIN BELCKE wrote in a message to TERRY BLOUNT: MB> Now if you were simply trying to sell of some old equipment MB> that you personally own, then that is not conducting MB> "business". This conference is used for "conducting business" as well as the support conference for Us Robotics, WordPerfect, Desqview, and Windows has at least four (4) conferences with a _TON_ of messages! NOT to mention at least 20 conferences that promote commercial BBS programs ...you mean to tell me that you are willing to carry all that echo mail containing promotions and update info, pricing, customer support, etc... but if a routed netmail message needs to pass through your system you would be _disturb_ if it contained info that would make a customer happy? I would certainly be happy to allow your routed netmail to pass through my system _ESPECIALLY_ if I thought it would benefit you emotionally, spiritually _OR_ financially. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BARRY CASSETTY Number: 920 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 7:39a Subj: gmd netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> As of the last few weeks, every nite we receive GMD Netmail and it looks >> like the same messages too. If you have a moment, can you check into >> this ? > Problem has been found and is being taken care off. > ...Boyd Thanks........We didn't get any today..11/29 ...Barry --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: Dandy Line BBS "Have Shack Will YaK" Music City U S A (1:116/4000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 921 To: GARY CHAMBERS Date: 12/03/93 8:44p Subj: Assumption? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Gary! GC> Is it safe to assume that if this message is received by someone else, th GC> net's echomail is being sent properly? A reply would be nice... Here's typing to you from Mobile, AL....! :) ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * ..E-Mail has been returned due to insufficient voltage. --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 922 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/03/93 8:48p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Terry! > The only thing that you need to figure out is how to place the Why not just route it through Richard Wallen, our local NC? I have had good success doing it that way...Just a thought... ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * Authenticity of stolen taglines is not guaranteed. --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 923 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 4:34p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > One nice solution would be to have 10 systems, 6 in US and 4 > in Canada, that each had a region and everone in each reagina > would drop of mail to these systems instead of call directly to > us. In turn we supply a number for the 10 systems to drop off > mail to us. We would not have a problem with routing then as I > would only have 10 systems to set up and routing would be handle > from each system to mine then routed to what every of the 10 > systems that net is in. Oh well, I can dream though can't I? Not a bad idea for you to have 10 HUBs throughout the country for people to call into. They could also be a bank for mail and files for those who needed to file-request what they missed. These 10 could also be a perfect backup in case anything were to happen to the satellite uplink itself. If these 10 sites had ISDN in place, they could come in via the backdoor with ISDN and not worry about busy signals on the other lines. (this would be extremely important in the case of a system failure). I know of 3 other sites besides mine that have ISDN and have large enough systems to serve as backup and also have the expertise to act as a HUB. > Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this > and I came to work for him a year ago today. I mainly worked on > the Skylink project and now take care of the technical aspects > of Planet Connect. Which of course include taking care of the > computers and stuff at the uplink. Joe is the one with the > ideas, I just keep everything running a smooth as I can. That's Overholt..........<g> Good thing Joe has a sense of humor. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 924 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/03/93 5:01p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No PCUTIL is a great program and does a good job of what it was written to do. Would it be possible to configure it to stop tossing mail bundles during a PCUTIL NEXT4 command if it comes to a bundle that is missing? I'd rather wait till that bundle shows up than to toss my mail out of sequence. If you'd like a beta tester to try this out, I'd be glad to volunteer. Thanks. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 925 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/03/93 9:26a Subj: C or Ku? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks (to you and others who responded). Are you running C or Ku? If > Ku, are you using the PC dish and feedhorn or someone else's? Also, if > Ku, any problems? I am using C band so I can't help you there. I was able to pick up a used one for a pretty good price. Has the motor and even a video. This way when the wind mannages to nudge the dish I can bring her back in line. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RIC WALSH Number: 926 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/03/93 6:56p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Mike! Wednesday December 01 1993 23:00, Mike Labbe wrote to All: ML> Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the ML> satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* hours ML> per day on a 486). I'm using FMAIL and it takes about an hour (I'm feeding about 15 nodes). Most of the time is to zip up the out going packets. I'm only running a 386SX with 4mg memory on a peer to peer network. I still use DB to answer the phone and to send the packets but it was TOOOO slow to toss that much mail. Ric --- D.M.U.G. BBS Dayton OH * Origin: DMUG BBS Dayton,OH (1:110/69) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 927 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 9:43p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > DO He does it now for other nets via modem, ... > > Nets, yes. Not nodes. :-) If you would route for one net, you'd have to route for them all. As it stands now, each net should have a regional feed, but I can understand his want to eliminate one of his long distance polls. And on that note, would it still be extensive modifications to your route configs if you agreed to route whole nets' netmail? I don't run the complicated software that you do so it will probably be something more complex than the simple stuff we encounter daily. BTW, I pick up net 3807's mail from 1:147/7 (in case you have any messages that have been getting stranded and deleted). I got a call in to John now 'cause I'm curious why the R19COORD echo hasn't had a message in it for about 2 months. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 928 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/03/93 9:53p Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does anyone know exactly what usenet groups are coming down the > satellite I need to create a proper map.fido file for fredgate, and to alt.bbs alt.internet alt.bbs.ads alt.bbs.allsysop alt.bbs.doors alt.bbs.internet alt.bbs.lists alt.bbs.metal alt.bbs.pcboard alt.bbs.pcbuucp alt.bbs.unixbbs alt.bbs.uupcb alt.internet alt.internet.services comp comp.bbs comp.bbs.misc comp.bbs.waffle comp.org comp.org.fidonet This is what has come over so far. The usenet bundles have stopped for now though. I haven't seen anything since last Sunday. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 929 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 12/03/93 10:38p Subj: Problem with PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CC> See my last message for an idea of how it might possibly be done. In CC> regards to the docs, I'm one of those unusual people that actually RTM. CC> I printed out the sparse documentation that came on the disk, but don't CC> recall seeing anything about that restriction. I fought it for several CC> hours before I gave up and put everything on one drive. I'll have to CC> look for it again just out of curiousity. CC> -=- Craig. It is there as a comment at the begining of the ACONFIG.SKY file. -=- Dave. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 930 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/04/93 12:00a Subj: NEW BBS IN TOWN... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to John Lundell, Jim Dunmyer said: > > 3. Is there a way to not have the hard drive continually being used > > during the satellite software? > John, > I've seen this question asked before, and here's my > feelings: The HD has to write each block of data as it > arrives, BUT: the head doesn't ususally move, it's already > over the proper track. This is assuming that the drive is > doing nothing else, of course. > > However, it would be nice to have an environment variable of > SKYTEMP that would point to the place to store the temporary > file as it's written so you could then copy it to the HD. > That could potentially cause as many or more problems than > it'd solve, of course..... Yep, totaly agree here... I have however been able to slow the writes down a touch by using an 8k fossil and a write cashe. It now only writes to the drive about every 8-15 blocks, with no data loss or bad results on the 286-16 that I use for PC only. John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 931 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 2:12a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/03/93> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> > Is there any chance that the weather stuff could be sent out in BG> > RIP Script format? Sure would make it easy to interface for the BG> > users to view them online. BG> > Joe BG> BG> We are looking into that possibility. YOu could do it on your end. BG> BG> BG> ...Boyd I have tried and my efforts are failures. Any suggestions on a program name to convert them. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * When in doubt, make it sound convincing --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 932 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/02/93 5:54p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, have a quick question and observation for you re: TVAGENT. Finally decided to take a look at the tv listings to see what they included, looked like, etc.. only to find that TVAGENT has to be run on the machine that has the dongle and actually runs Ptccmain. Further, the listings themselves are encrypted and can't be listed or viewed with anything but TVAGENT. With no offense to you or PC intended, what kind of a moron is going to interrupt his/her satellite transmissions to view a tv listing? I understand that you don't wish TVAGENT or the listings themselves to be distributed or used by other than the PC subscribers, but what of us who have multiple machines operating across a network? Or what of those folks who run PC as an event from their BBS on a single machine? I think such an action not only limits the usefulness of the listings but somewhat nullifies your reasons for including it. Could you perhaps reconsider and find some other way of protecting your interests with regards to TVAGENT? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 933 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/03/93 8:19a Subj: RE: THINGS... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > by next week, and then I'll really be getting some large volumes of > mail and this concerns me even more about the old hard drive. Don't worry about it, Glenn. I've been handling mail here since 1988, starting with CONFMAIL, later using Qmail. The HD thrashes for a couple of hours at a time, and I've yet to actually wear one out, usually outgrow it first. Same thing with my BBS; with all 7 lines going, the HD light looks like it's being defragged, not just servicing the lines. And, I've never worn out a drive there, either. If your drive goes belly-up while processsing all that mail, it just means that it was time anyway, and with drives now below a buck/meg, it shouldn't kill you to replace it. Especially if it's truly "old" as you indicate above. Heck, I took an ST-4096 off the BBS after a year or so, processed mail on it for about 3 or 4 years, then sold it to a guy who is STILL using it. --- QM v1.26/a * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 934 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/03/93 11:24p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <03 Dec 93 00:06:40>, John Souvestre (1:396/1) writes: JS>Woah! For Boyd, it takes ONE line in his routing file to route to JS>me. If I were to try to route to each person connected to PC JS>(including those they feed) I'd need thousands of statements and JS>they would probably need to be updated hourly. NOT so simple! :-) Yeh, this is true. I guess I keep thinking in a net configuration as that's what I deal with. It's hard enough to keep up with net routing, but as Boyd has to deal with individual nodes..... Still, I wonder how many whole nets he's feeding via NECs or hub level downlinks. Like for Net 123, you could shove the whole thing through Boyd instead of Emery.... Is something like that realistic? Feeding whole nets only. Still I gotta hit Emery anyway for regional stuff. JS>Also, everyone doing routing would have to do likewise, so it would JS>be a problem for the other Zone Hubs and Region Hubs, too. What would change (for whole nets that is) except on your end? Well, it was a thought. :-) D. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Center Field Point (1:123/301.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 935 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 11:35p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <03 Dec 93 00:23:23>, Boyd Goodin (1:3615/50) writes: BG> Thanks for the encouragement hosser. I should of became a BG>doctor. I think it is less stressfull than this occupation. That's a fact! Patients aren't near as demanding as Sysops! --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Center Field Point (1:123/301.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 936 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 11:42p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <03 Dec 93 00:38:15>, Boyd Goodin (1:3615/50) writes: BG>I am not saying it cant be done. I have other priorities at the BG>moment. If John was to add all the nets than fine by me, I will BG>give it another try. Understand, I can see John's problem. Hadn't thought about all the individual nodes you probably have to deal with. Still for those of us that are feeding whole nets it would be worthwhile, but there are other routes. He he, John still has to deal with us in that regard. BG>But nobody better start complaining if they BG>happen to get a few messages not address to thier system ending up BG>in thier netmail area. WHAT!?! Us complain?? Never.... <smirk> D. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Center Field Point (1:123/301.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 937 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 11:40p Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <03 Dec 93 00:39:14>, Boyd Goodin (1:3615/50) writes: BG>> You're forgiven..... just as soon as I get my dish. :-) BG> BG> It was sent out yesterday. May Santy Claus be extra kind to you and yours! <G> Thanks! D. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Center Field Point (1:123/301.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 938 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/03/93 9:32p Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What you need is KillerDOG and run this after Tossing and before packing > netmail. > > KillerDOG -d 3615/50 -m Grunged_Message Oh, okay, Ervin, thanks for the info. :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 939 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 9:34p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Now if I could only get people to stop sending local areas to me I think > I would be able to work on getting this routed netmail thing done, You mean you don't want to read/distribute the contents of our local whips-n-chains echoes? <G> --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 940 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 9:38p Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Your welcome. By the way. Someone is dropping of a local echo and > while going thru my badecho area I noticed a few people talking about a > wedding. Nice half drawing of a wedding gown in one of them. You would > not be tying the knot by any chance? Hmmm, just checked our configurations here, Boyd, but it doesn't appear that they're coming from us. Sounds like our R19SYSOP echo judging by the contents you mentioned and yes, Remus and I are planning to get married sometime in April or May at our Region 19 Poor Man's Fidocon & Lake Party. Heck, you could call it PR and join us for the wedding, Boyd, tentatively to be held at Lake Somerville down near College Station, TX in Aggieland. ;D --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 941 To: GARY CHAMBERS Date: 12/03/93 9:41p Subj: Assumption? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is it safe to assume that if this message is received by someone else, > that my net's echomail is being sent properly? A reply would be nice... Just when you thought it was safe to... whoops, wrong line. Yes, it's safe to assume that, Gary. :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 942 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/04/93 11:34a Subj: NEW BBS IN TOWN... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I'm just 60 miles south of you (Fargo, ND) and build up hasn't been a -> problem yet and it would have been last week, if ever. I do like the block -> heater idea. They are available as large magnets that heat whatever they are -> stuck too. wow! I (pardon this) was not aware that there were any decent BBS's in Fargo <G>.. we have soooo many guys in Fargo calling us and subscribing to our system .. I'll have to start letting them know your there so they can save a few LD pennies. What does your BBS have (down there <G>)? Besides what the sat. is now bringing us we're at 10+ gigs and 4 nodes (soon 10)... not too bad for such a small town. As for running the sat software I'm shelling out of PCBoard for now to an event that runs it twice (just in case) then goes back to the BBS... until I get more nodes I can't afford to lose one as we're extremely busy with just 4. Anyway, thanks for the reply - I was starting to think the message did not get out <G>. -> I'm surprised you got independent node status. When I tried initially up -> here, I got forced into the 288 net. John must be getting soft, but then -> again he gave me a full feed. Nice guy. ya I've been on FIDOnet here for 3 years now, but not very active. All of us here in Grand Forks are in the 1:14/6xx range of addresses ... I really never concerned myself much with how I got it and what it means <G>... Since I just joined this conference (and don't want to feel stupid more than once) who is this John person you refer to? I see his name all over the place.. the only one I am familiar with at this time is Boyd. Glad to hear from you way down there in Fargo hehehe.. I'll have to call your BBS and check you out... ttyl --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 943 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/03/93 2:39p Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Does anyone know exactly what usenet groups are coming down the satellite I -> need to create a proper map.fido file for fredgate, and to Lance, your -> batchfiles worked great!!!!! thanx very very much for the help.. I don't know, I had a few test groups come through a week ago, but none since then.. I've been waiting for that service too... I'm also waiting for RIME and ILink... both are supposedly to be online soon, but haven't heard much about either.. --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALLAS HINTON Number: 944 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 1:29p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd -- on Dec 02 1993 at 23:42, you wrote: BG> One nice solution would be to have 10 systems, 6 in US BG> and 4 in Canada, that each had a region and everone in each BG> reagina would drop of mail to these systems instead of call BG> directly to us. In turn we supply a number for the 10 BG> systems to drop off mail to us. We would not have a problem BG> with routing then as I would only have 10 systems to set up BG> and routing would be handle from each system to mine then BG> routed to what every of the 10 systems that net is in. Oh BG> well, I can dream though can't I? You know, we have such a scheme already in place -- called the Regional Echo Coordinator! :-) You might consider getting them to help you set up such a method? I'd start with Adrian Walker, 153/752 -- he seems to be willing to spend time organizing and sorting out, AND he's good at it! :-) Cheers ... Dallas RC 17 :-) --- * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver BC, CANADA [604-266-7754] (1:153/715) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 945 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/03/93 11:32p Subj: FILEBONE AREAS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Tuesday November 30 1993, Todd Lyons writes to Sarkutis Uranus: Hello Todd! TL> Check your ACONFIG.SKY. It should be very similar to this: thanks for your rulebase list..i havent seen mention other than from your message, of the new rulebases. Much appreciated..I wondered why the usenet stuff was getting sent to NUL <grin> Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Friday December 03 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 946 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 1:05p Subj: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd!!! Just wanted to let you and everyone else know that 107/33 went live on the "bird" at 4am on 12/1/93. In addition, 107/33 has been granted RHUB status in Region 13. The node number will be 13/24. I have a bit more work to do before I can start picking up links. And, I need another phone line run in. To that end, I'll be ordering a new Hayes 28.8 modem so as to increase land line speed. I also wanted to thank you and your staff for helping me out during the setup phase. I never did resolve the error I was having with the PC software not always seeing the printer port. The only way to solve that turned out to be a motherboard change. When I switched from a 386sx-40 to a 286-16, all started to work fine. Maybe the sx40 was just a bit to fast?? Got me. Kept all the other hardware set the same. Now it works, then it didn't (if I loaded in IPX). Well, that's about it. Looking forward to talking to ya!! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPH LOBIANCO Number: 947 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/04/93 1:55p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the -> satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* -> hours per day on a 486). Im useing Qfront on a 486/88 MHZ Vesa System and it flys.. It did about a weeks worth of Fido mail in about 3 hours.. Ralph --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: The STUDIO - Over 70,000 files, 8 Gigabytes (813)862-8850 (1:3619/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 948 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/04/93 12:46p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 03, Dave Osborne of 1:123/301.8 wrote to John Souvestre: DO> Still, I wonder how many whole nets he's feeding via NECs or hub DO> level downlinks. Like for Net 123, you could shove the whole DO> thing through Boyd instead of Emery.... Is something like that DO> realistic? Feeding whole nets only. Yes, but it's not trivial. :-) DO> What would change (for whole nets that is) except on your end? Everyone else who routed for that Net (the Zone Hubs and the Region Hubs in that region) would also have to change their routing, along with Boyd. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 949 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 7:34p Subj: List of File Areas Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, Could you post a listing of all the file areas that are comming down of the bird?? Thanks, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HIRAM BEMBRY Number: 950 To: LARRY JAMES Date: 12/04/93 2:20a Subj: Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG>> Say hello to Veger:-) BG> Who's Veger? Star Trek the Movie.....RIGHT!!!!!!!!! But I believe it's Vger. ■ QMPro 1.50 74-7536 ■ 1 Minute Shut Mouth Worth 1 Hour Explanation --- RBBSMail v18.2 * Origin: Way Station BBS, Tifton GA (1:3645/100.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 951 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/04/93 1:28p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 03 03:50>, John Lyon of 1:2380/400 writes: JL> your JL> startnet.bat that allows you to use each server as a drive JL> letter JL> and each drive as a sub dir. Would that help ya? What's the command???? --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 952 To: KYLE HEARN Date: 12/04/93 4:52p Subj: PC Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KH> Mickey Ferguson stated these words of wisdom to Bill KH> Wolf: KH> MF> Bill, KH> MF> I've been running it under DV since mid Oct. with EXCELLENT KH> MF> results. This on a little 386DX-40 with 5meg of RAM. KH> MF> The latest release of the software is (for me) as stable & KH> MF> error free under DV as it is under plain old DOS. KH> MF> The use of 16550's is IMPERATIVE as is a FAST hard drive. KH> How big of a drive do you need/recommend for this? Kyle, I thought everyone knew that hard drives only come in one size.....TOO SMALL!!! <GRIN> I'm running a 180meg drive on the PC system. That machine only runs a mail only board and Planet Connect, so 180meg has been enough thus far. Mickey --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 (1:116/205) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 953 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/04/93 7:36a Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I just saw a post today about an unknown command you use in > your startnet.bat that allows you to use each server as a drive > letter and each drive as a sub dir. Would that help ya? It might help. I'd be interested to see what you've got at any rate. Thanks, Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 954 To: CRAIG CLARK Date: 12/04/93 7:40a Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If you run Lantastic you can remap all of the server's logical > drives to one drive letter on a workstation. From that one drive letter > each of the server's drives appears as a different subdirectory. Using > this method and multiple servers you could have around 676 CD-ROM's > online at one time. I like it but unfortunately I'm running Netware Lite. I may have to check out Lantastic now! Thanks for the info. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 955 To: ALL Date: 12/04/93 1:18p Subj: File Echos Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Out of curiosity do we need to contact all the file bone distributors if we plan on carrying the files transmitted on our systems? Or do we do it just out of common curtesy? How is everyone else treating this? Thanks Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 956 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/04/93 8:13p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> written to do. Would it be possible to configure it to stop JD> tossing mail bundles during a PCUTIL NEXT4 command if it JD> comes to a bundle that is missing? Sure could, BUT the boys at PC have been known to miss a file now and then, would be kind of dangerous to do because you could be waiting a whole week for that file to come in. ;-) And I think there are a few sysops that would linch me if I made the program do it. John...... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 957 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/04/93 8:22p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 03, Terry Blount of 1:3625/441 wrote to John Souvestre: TB> One day a bunch of new nodes join and the same day TB> a TB> bunch fall off. So we have weekly node updates to manage TB> the TB> changes. Right, and the Zone and Region Hubs could simply not keep up with all the changes necessary to route to the individual nodes. You need to work out your problem within your Net. If you can't then appeal to the next level above. John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN SOUVESTRE Number: 958 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/04/93 11:00p Subj: .NO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Dec 03, Glenn Caleval of 1:140/72@fidonet wrote to John Souvestre: GC> How much of a problem would it be to put the CAN_MILITARY GC> conference into the .no file so it could get onto the sat. Sorry. GC> I know the moderator is in the process of applying for bb status GC> tho. Good. :-) John --- Squish/386 v1.10 BETA/5a * Origin: Southern Star - V32b/V.FC/HST/ZYX - 504-885-5928 - (1:396/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 959 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/01/93 12:53a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> This sounds too simple... what am I missing...... :-) Stop and think. Outbound Netmail should be a peach. But Inbound. Uh-uh. Where you used to have Route-To 1:249/1 1:249/ALL you now run into Route-To 1:249/1 1:249/AL Except 1:249/304 300 301 302 303 305 306 307 308 309 201 ad nauseam. And the worst of it is, EVERY system in the NET above the level of simple node has to do this. Can you imagine the logistics of this........ We re-negotiated our participation in the 249 CRP due to us being LD to the rest of the 249 net. We pay a vastly reduced fee as a subnet for routed netmail and some local/regional conferences. And to reduce the possibility of accidents, we are running split hubs. I hub all the Satellite stuff, the other guy handles routed netmail and local/regional non-satellite stuff. Now if I could just persuade Squish to quit grunging everybody elses packets we would be all set..... --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: The Viking's Cove, Trenton ON (613)394-5919 (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 960 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/03/93 9:29a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> > I guess we'll just have to be patient . . . :-) BG> BG> Getting there. Just got to kick them a few more BG> times.......... I'm wondering how accurate they are. Yesterday the map said that we weren't supposed to get any snow, and it snowed last night. The maps never were updated every two hours, so it there was a change in forecast we didn't know. BTW, weather is one of my specialties. <G> --- GEcho 1.01+NOMORETG! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 961 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/04/93 12:12p Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ervin! 01 Dec 93, Ervin Jay writes to Dennis Powers: EJ> Hello Dennis! EJ> Tuesday November 30 1993, Dennis Powers writes to John Burton: JB>>> to move the .?LO file, you'll see that TICK will then delete the JB>>> passthru file, leaving the .TIC only... DP>> IN i:\inbound\ DP>> ZONE 1 i:\outbound\ <===== this is the outbound copymail sees DP>> ZONE 8 i:\outbound.008\ <===== the actual outbounds are on drive DP>> hold j:\netmail\tickhold\ <===== This is where Tick writes the DP>> *.Tic & EJ> But, how do you prevent tick, when run again in a few minutes from seeing EJ> the .PT files in the tick hold dir, then looking in I:\Outbound\, and EJ> seeing no FLO files with and pending file tsfsrs from deleting the PT's EJ> and the Passthru Files. It will simply assume that everyone has already EJ> picked them up, since there are no FLO files remaining. Never had the problem here....hmmm.. I only run tick once a day here and I guess I've been lucky that I get all passthru files delivered prior to it's next run.... This is going to take some thought. -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 962 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 12:16p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 02 Dec 93, Boyd Goodin writes to Floyd Drennon: BG> also find time for a life. ;-) While running a BBS ? Can't happen [ROFL]!! -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 963 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 12:41p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 03 Dec 93, Boyd Goodin writes to Dennis Powers: BG> He would have to put every system that calls me in his route statement BG> too , wouldn't he? If He was to route return mail through you. But the return doesn't necessarly have to follow the same path, and shouldn't be returned through you. What he would need (and most likely already has) would be the routing for the net's. eg: Route 1:141/All 151/All ..... and so on... It _can_ be done but I agree with you that the first priority is the have the echo mail flowing smoothly. What everyone must remember is that no one is *required* to route outbound netmail that they didn't agree to. If it's important send it CRASH. >> I would also suggest that you start using session passwords for all mail BG> We are. Starting Sunday if nobody has a session password they wont be I haven't checked my netmail yet but... I assume you have sent notifications to each node informing us what they are :). Keep up the good work. -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 964 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/04/93 1:42p Subj: Size Of Squish Bundles Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn! Tuesday November 30 1993, Glenn Vermette writes to Ervin Jay: EJ>> DOS sizemail -cD:\Bink\sizemail.cfg GV> Could you elaborte on this a bit more? I have several downlinks that GV> intake between 2 and 3.5 megs per day, and the way I have it set up right GV> now, it just keeps adding and adding to the bundle until the next day GV> comes. So I have a 3.5 meg bundle of mail. I'd like to put these in 500K GV> or so bundles...but I can't seem to figure out how it is done. Not to GV> mention as my inbound daily dump arrives it takes longer and longer to add GV> to bundles that grow bigger and bigger. Well, SIZEMAIL is a program that is needs to be run each time Squish drops out to pack out going packets. This is accomplished by running it from your Squish ROUTE.CFG using the `DOS' verb as structured above. This creates a ???.TMP directory off of the directory containing you normal Outbound. if your normal outbounf is D:\Bink\Outbound\Out sizemail will put the bundles it finds into a dir called D:\Bink\Outbound\Out.TMP. If the Bundle is equal to or larger than the defined size (on a nodexnode basis) in its config file, it moves the bunde to this .TMP dir, truncating the original so Squish can increment the extension counter. Sizemail also correts the FLO file entry to point to this bundle in the .TMP directory and changes the # (tuncate flag) to ^ (delete flag). Squish tosses more mail, archiving into a new bundle facilitated by the previously truncated one, premitting it to increment the digit. Another good one that works very well albeit a bit differently than Sizemail is COPYMAIL, but is run in exactly the same manner, from ROUTE.CFG using the `DOS' verb. You would point Squish to an outbound area totally different from the one Binkley sees. Every time Squish archives mail it creates an .??0 bundle. Then CopyMail is run which looks in its control file and copy appends the new Bundle and .?LO file to that already in your Bink outbound. (if the resultant file would be larger then MaxSize the new bundle is split 'tween the prev and a new one) In this case it is CopyMail that is incrementing the Bundle Digit, and it obeys Bink .BSY flags. If a node is "on line" it can be setup to WAIT till they are gone or skip and catch it next time. WAIT, draw back, the system is waiting, doing nothing Catch it Next time, draw back, the bundle Another nice util for busy Hubs is called AutoMail. With this one all mail going to downlinks is created as HOLD. The Automail.CTL file contains a list of the Nodes you wish to control as well as a Size. Then, after all mail is processed, and if the mail for a given node is equal to or greater in size than specified in the control file, it is changed from HOLD to CRASH. I like thiks one as it stops my system from calling out multiple times a day to deliver 1k bundles... :)) If they want it more often, they can poll for it, other wise it stays on hold 'till it reaches 50k File: AUTOMAIL.ZIP 26,063 04-15-91 Desc: AUTOmail v1.0, Holds mail till enough to call out File: CPML-122.ZIP 31,210 09-15-93 Desc: COPYMAIL is used in MTask/Lan Env, Mail is Copied, under control, from Processing Dir to Outbound File: SIZMAIL2.ZIP 18,719 12-31-90 Desc: Control Arcmail Bundle Sizes This one is written by one of the Hubs here in 153 and allows you to move mail into your processing directory xbytes at a time if you do not want to unarchive 8.5 megs of bundles all at once :)) There was another util I tried to use, but it moved the files at random, this one always moves the oldest first and exits with varying errorlevels allowing you to take appropriate action on finding a bundle that was to large etc etc..... File: PUNTMAIL.ZIP 5,030 10-27-93 Desc: Move Files/Mail (Oldest First) xxxx Bytes at a time Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 965 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 2:20p Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Friday December 03 1993, Boyd Goodin writes to Ervin Jay: >> If I were there, I would be only to happy to drop by and jave a look see, >> but... it's a bit far to travle, and I am sure there must be someone >> local that knows how to do this. BG> Your concept is correct so John would have to add all nets that we feed BG> so that anything he gets for this node would be sent to me and I would put BG> it on hold for him. Since we have some nets and a lot of indevidual nodes BG> receiving systems he would have to add each node to his routing file. BG> Wonder if he would do that. No, you would route all netmail arriving at 3615/50 to 396/1 who in turn would route to whatever the normal methods would be, if not via an echomail chain, then via the *C chain. The nets/nodes dropping off echomail to 3615/50 could then drop off their outgoing routed netmail which would get routed onwards. They would have to make other arrangements for inbound netmail, but the *C chain was doing the routed netmail thing l-o-n-g before the echo jockeys provided the service. Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 966 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/04/93 11:46a Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Guy VanDell: TL> This is what has come over so far. The usenet bundles have TL> stopped for now though. I haven't seen anything since last TL> Sunday. Perhaps hen things start flowing we can ask boyd to post an ACTIVE file or a NEWSRC file to the datastream for us to use in configuring the usenet feed? Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 967 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 12/04/93 4:50p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of <02 Dec 93 10:43:22>, Keith Sippy (1:283/121) writes: KS>What about the other two stars? They'd have to change their KS>routing too. Point is takin. It's just too complicated. I can understand what John was talking about. Oh well. D. --- QM v1.00 * Origin: Center Field Point (1:123/301.8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM JONES Number: 968 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/04/93 7:44p Subj: Re: C or Ku? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I am using C band so I can't help you there. I was able > to pick up a used one for a pretty good price. Has the > motor and even a video. This way when the wind mannages > to nudge the dish I can bring her back in line. I am using the Ku with the "better" LNB. I have had only a few weather related problems...VERY hard rain makes the signal go away, but what the hay, the files and mail are sent over and over, so I get them when it lets up. As I write this, it is raining and the wind is gusting to 47 MPH and I have had no errors since around 10am (it is now about 8pm). Tom --- Opus-CBCS 1.14 * Origin: StarScan (sm) Montgomery Al (205)-279-7313 HST/DS (1:375/1.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 969 To: RALPH LOBIANCO Date: 12/05/93 5:25p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Im useing Qfront on a 486/88 MHZ Vesa System and it flys.. It did about a -> weeks worth of Fido mail in about 3 hours.. Are you able to feed others with this product, and will it work on multi-nodes? I'm looking to get rid of DBRIDGE, which is falling too far behind in the times to be practical. --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY SHERWYN Number: 970 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 12/05/93 9:37p Subj: PLANET CONNECT ECHO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'm certain we have lots more fun ahead. Great... Thats why I am here and keep doing the *C things.... BTW, Thanks for all your hard work and continued dedication to our hobby. Many times efforts such as yours go un-noticed... Randy *ASTRO* BBS --- Gecho via Satellite * Origin: *ASTRO* (14 CD's..Major-MultiLine) 277-0906 (1:371/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY SHERWYN Number: 971 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/05/93 9:39p Subj: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > stuff, work on other networks, look into a europe feed, and > also find time for a life. ;-) Sorry Boyd, you need to choose. Sysop or a Life. You choose. :>) Randy *ASTRO* BBS Ft. Myers, FL --- Gecho via Satellite * Origin: *ASTRO* (14 CD's..Major-MultiLine) 277-0906 (1:371/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY SHERWYN Number: 972 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/05/93 9:43p Subj: ECHO'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Havent talked with them. WGA should be going over any > day now. Also a sports online magazine. Cool. I am good friends with Craig and I use his stuff all the time and it is top notch for us Sports nuts..! Thanks for getting him on line..will save me $$ on Ma Bell! Randy *ASTRO* BBS Ft. Myers, FL --- Gecho via Satellite * Origin: *ASTRO* (14 CD's..Major-MultiLine) 277-0906 (1:371/30) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 973 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/05/93 4:25p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JM>JD> written to do. Would it be possible to configure it to stop JM>JD> tossing mail bundles during a PCUTIL NEXT4 command if it JM>JD> comes to a bundle that is missing? JM>Sure could, BUT the boys at PC have been known to miss a file JM>now and then, would be kind of dangerous to do because you JM>could be waiting a whole week for that file to come in. ;-) If it could be optional I'd still like to have it do that. I plan to wait till the missing file comes in and if it's not there by the second pass, I'll file-request it from Boyd. Either way, I'd want the option to stop processing until I either got the file or manually bypassed it. JM>And I think there are a few sysops that would linch me if I JM>made the program do it. Only if that was the only option that they were given. A command line option would seem a good way for everyone to be happy. I'd sure appreciate the option, myself. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: RxShop 615-646-9481 Nashville TN HST/V32b/ISDN (1:116/5000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 974 To: NORMAND MARINEAU Date: 12/06/93 12:30a Subj: Re: FrancoMedia Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Boyd, I bought a Disk Package with one year site feed, I > receive > correctly all the files, but I found not the file of Network FrancoMedia > and I > bougth that for to have this Network. When I want receive this Network > ??? We are revamping some of our ploicies on nets that want to be distributed over the satellite. I will be talking with them at FrancoMedia and will hopefully have it up on the bird. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 975 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/06/93 12:31a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I carry all of the NA and NO areas. I have you connected to all of them. > :-) I did say I am sorry to everyone about that! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 976 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/06/93 12:32a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > to route anything you receive through me. It will then follow the > conventional Backbone echomail channels to its destination. Ok. now everyone listen up. I wiltake you stuff and pass it on. But if the format is bad and it ends up not being forwarded to John I will be deleting it. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 977 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/06/93 12:36a Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I've heard of that SOC_ROOT. Isn't it a genealogy echo? Probably one I'd > want too :-)) Heck, just throw it in Boyd, we can figure it out <grin>. Yea then I would have everyone out there after my white head! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 978 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/06/93 12:44a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > If we push you into managing yet one more thing before you are ready we > might overload the human systems which inevitably leads to a breakdown in > the technical systems :-) Or a break down in my brian. :-) ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 979 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/06/93 12:50a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That wasn't what I was talking about. I'm sure you have gotten many > netmail messages asking questions and placing orders for a sat modem or > to subscribe to PC. I would guess that a large number of those messages > came to you via routed netmail. Had you not gotten them your business > would not have grown as fast. Sorry. Not from routed netmail. I receive very few ones here. If they want info I send it direct to them. It is surprising what you get when you advertise in magazines and have a both at ONEBBSCON. > Me too. But I am sure you _PICK UP_ some routed net mail > messages that are were routed to you. That is what I wanted to be able > do. Yes and I get them from MY hub not from John. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 980 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/06/93 12:53a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > My point is that he is already sending it _somewhere_. If that > somewhere is to you and you put it on hold that should solve the > problem. And that _somewhere_ is not me. You are asking fidonet's routing structure to basically change. This is a lot of work. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 981 To: BARRY CASSETTY Date: 12/06/93 12:55a Subj: Re: gmd netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks........We didn't get any today..11/29 Your welcome. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 982 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/06/93 12:57a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Not a bad idea for you to have 10 HUBs throughout the country for people > to call into. They could also be a bank for mail and files for those who Someday, someday........ >> Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this > That's Overholt..........<g> Good thing Joe has a sense of humor. Hope he never caught that one. He would never let me live it down. He said he is going to buy me a spell checker for Xmas. Go figure? ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 983 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/06/93 1:00a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Now, isn't that what I predicted would be the most efficient scheme in > the TVRO echo? <grin> And didn't you just sit by while I got trashed for > eve suggesting it <Bigger grin>. Opps! Sorry can be in every place at the right time. Did you take it gracefully? ;-) > It not only will "fix" problems of routing, it will improve access for > inbound echomail. Dont dream too much. It might become reality one of these days. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 984 To: GLENN CALEVAL Date: 12/06/93 1:01a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > As an aside, Boyd, it might make sense to do the conversion on your end > if there was general acceptance of receiving it in RIP *instead* of the > .pcx, because it would dramatically reduce the size of the files > transferred and hence free up a few minutes of the data stream. Naw we will JPEG em then you will all have to use ROBO/FX! ;-) ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 985 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/06/93 1:05a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have tried and my efforts are failures. Any suggestions on a > program name to convert them. The new RIPPAINT does allow you to take a PCX file and convert it to an icon right? I also heard that you can make that icon as big as you want right? THis is just what I heard now folks. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 986 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/06/93 1:07a Subj: Re: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > somewhat nullifies your reasons for including it. Could you perhaps > reconsider and find some other way of protecting your interests with > regards to TVAGENT? Patty, I am talking with the boss on that and hopefully we can find a sollution to this problem. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 987 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 12/06/93 1:08a Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > yes and yes...I even put the dips back to the default suggested in the > txt that you sent down..thinking that was it.. the latest software seems > to be more susceptible (sp?) to errors.. Did you make sure that you are locked on satellite. Make sure that the polorization is horizonal. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 988 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/06/93 1:10a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > That's a fact! Patients aren't near as demanding as Sysops! Ahhhh, the good old days when I still had brown hair........ ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 989 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/06/93 1:11a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > routes. He he, John still has to deal with us in that regard. God bless him! > WHAT!?! Us complain?? Never.... <smirk> Yep. By the way, whats the problem with bink that you cant connect with D'bridge on the ISDN line? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 990 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/06/93 1:13a Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > May Santy Claus be extra kind to you and yours! <G> ^^^^^^ There is only ME! So I want MORE! Nothing a few good bottles of JB wont fix... ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 991 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/06/93 1:13a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You mean you don't want to read/distribute the contents of our local > whips-n-chains echoes? <G> Almost as good as the Playboy channel... ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 992 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/06/93 1:15a Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hmmm, just checked our configurations here, Boyd, but it doesn't > appear No its not. > sometime in April or May at our Region 19 Poor Man's Fidocon & Lake > Party. May have to go to that. > to be held at Lake Somerville down near College Station, TX in Aggieland. > ;D Heck the boss wont even let me have a day off let alone go to Texas! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 993 To: DALLAS HINTON Date: 12/06/93 1:16a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You know, we have such a scheme already in place -- called the Regional > Echo Coordinator! :-) You might consider getting them to help you set up > such a method? I'd start with Adrian Walker, 153/752 -- he seems to be > willing to spend time organizing and sorting out, AND he's good at it! > :-) Yep i know. This is for the furture when I have time to die my hair back to its original color. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 994 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/06/93 1:19a Subj: Re: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi Boyd!!! > Just wanted to let you and everyone else know that > 107/33 went live on the "bird" at 4am on 12/1/93. Welcome aboard. > To that end, I'll be ordering a new Hayes 28.8 > modem so as to increase land line speed. Should have it soon too. > I also wanted to thank you and your staff for > helping me out during the setup phase. > I never did resolve the error I was having with > the PC software not always seeing the printer > port. The only way to solve that turned out > to be a motherboard change. When I switched > from a 386sx-40 to a 286-16, all started to work fine. > Maybe the sx40 was just a bit to fast?? > Got me. Kept all the other hardware set the same. > Now it works, then it didn't (if I loaded in IPX). Computers are wierd aren't they. Its like they have a mind of thier own. Glad we could help. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 995 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/04/93 1:22p Subj: RE: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to MARTIN BELCKE: TB> This conference is used for "conducting business" as well TB> as the support conference for Us Robotics, WordPerfect, TB> Desqview, and Windows has at least four (4) TB> conferences with a _TON_ of messages! NOT to mention at TB> least 20 conferences that promote commercial BBS TB> programs ...you mean to tell me that you are willing TB> to carry all that echo mail containing promotions and TB> update info, pricing, customer support, etc... but if a TB> routed netmail message needs to pass through your system TB> you would be _disturb_ if it contained info that would TB> make a customer happy? No netmail......echomail of info or benefit to all is not so bad.....but routing commercial netmail is a no no..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 996 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/05/93 3:31p Subj: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Fred Seibel wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: FS> I also wanted to thank you and your staff for FS> helping me out during the setup phase. FS> I never did resolve the error I was having with FS> the PC software not always seeing the printer FS> port. The only way to solve that turned out FS> to be a motherboard change. When I switched FS> from a 386sx-40 to a 286-16, all started to work fine. Hmmmm intresting....I too run a 386sx-40....and have similar problems -but- only with the network software loaded....When I dont load the network it never fails.....I worked around it by having it only load the network when all files have been recieved and rebooting afterwards. FS> Maybe the sx40 was just a bit to fast?? FS> Got me. Kept all the other hardware set the same. FS> Now it works, then it didn't (if I loaded in IPX). Yup.....If you would have just used a batch file to load the network using PCUTIL's errorlevels for all files recieved then rebooted afterwards things probably would have been fine. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 997 To: RALPH LOBIANCO Date: 12/05/93 3:36p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ralph Lobianco wrote in a message to Mike Labbe: -> Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the -> satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* -> hours per day on a 486). RL> Im useing Qfront on a 486/88 MHZ Vesa System and it flys.. ^^^^^^ I hope you mean 66 :) greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 998 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/05/93 12:40p Subj: RIME Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd! Any idea on when RIME will start feeding? Thanks! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:379/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 999 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/05/93 4:05p Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > But, how do you prevent tick, when run again in a few minutes from > seeing the .PT files in the tick hold dir, then looking in > I:\Outbound\, and seeing no FLO files with and pending file tsfsrs > from deleting the PT's and the Passthru Files. It will simply > assume that everyone has already picked them up, since there are no > FLO files remaining. My problem exactly, Ervin.... I've "solved" it by running TICK when I bring TBBS down to scan for outbound echomail. That way, TICK only looks at "real" outbound areas, not dummy areas built for CopyMail's use... I guess what we need is a network aware TICK proggie... One that reads/writes .BSY flags, and utilizes a staging area.... --==jb==-- --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: The SANDBOX ** RIP available HERE!! ** (405)737-9540 (1:147/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE REED Number: 1000 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 11/30/93 6:02p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! Thursday November 25 1993 10:44, Terry Blount wrote to Boyd Goodin: TB> Thanks... now if you could only fix it so that we can use TB> routed net mail through your system and pick it up when we call TB> in with our reply mail. I polled my old hub a few days ago and TB> found about 15 routed netmail messages that had been waiting TB> there for over a month. Needless to say that I lost some sales TB> that could have helped me pay my Planet Connect subscription fee TB> <grin>. It is really difficult to try to teach everyone that TB> CRASH netmail is the ONLY option that is now available to most TB> of us who are using Planet Connect. Since EVERY moderator's TB> most frequently posted message is "Take this to netmail" we TB> really need to get routed netmail working properly so that we TB> can pick it up when we poll you. I'm sure you are aware of the TB> effects it would have on your business if routed netmail did not TB> work. Routed netmail is NOT to be used for commercial purposes. You, of all folks, should know that, Terry. The CD-ROM folks are creating quite a stir at the RC/ZC level, and the result may not be something you like. That's why I quit advertising to FidoNet SysOps. Dave Reed CD-ROM International ... Beavis and Butt-Head in '96! --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121+/46DK3 * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS * Ephrata WA * (509)246-0548 (1:344/79) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 1001 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/04/93 9:44a Subj: PROBLEM WITH PTCCMAIN Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry, -> HH> Just wondering how your proposed file move works. <grin> -> In Pascal you can simply move a file without moving the data like -> this: {$i-} -> Rename( TheFile, 'C:\NewDir\NewName.xyz' ); -> {$i+} -> If Ioresult = 17 Then Manually_copy_the_data... because you -> were not currently on the same drive. That function in not inherent to Pascal, but a Pascal call to a basic DOS Rename File Interrupt request. It doesn't modify the FAT, it just rewrites the directory entry for the file and but keeps the same data chain pointers. Thus no data movement. However moving data from drive to drive, requires rewriting the data, since the data chain pointers wouldn't be the same. I always wondered why DOS doesn't allow it's RENAME command to have the same functionality as it's internal RENAME interrupt request. Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Number: 1002 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/04/93 9:49a Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Patty, -> somewhat nullifies your reasons for including it. Could you perhaps -> reconsider and find some other way of protecting your interests with -> regards to TVAGENT? I totally agree, this TV stuff is only worth a DEL *.* and runs up our Satellite connect cost <g> I hope it isn't costing Planet Connect anything to obtain it. Regards, Hans --- Logical 15.0 * Origin: Logical Solutions, 24 Lines 299-9900. Calgary Region Hub (1:134/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1003 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 10:30a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Basically, there isn't any reason you can't route netmail recieved via > landline via John's system. BG> Ok. Tell me this. WHERE are the replies (coming BG> back) going to be routed to? Even John told me this is one way. Nobody said anything about you routing netmail back down to the end nodes, although this is feasible. Be fun to keep up with it though as the zone hubs would have to be in on it. What is being asked is for you to route netmail received by your downlinks when they call to drop off their return echomail to John for delivery back down the chain. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1004 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 10:36a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > <toss inbound mail, do not pack> > <MsgTrack> > Send xxxx 3615/50 > Route Hold 396/1 1:All 2:All 3:All 4:All 5:All 6:All BG> BG> Thats what I had except for the MsgTrack and I did not see one routed BG> netmail flow back to me from John for one of the BG> systems. Why is this? because the reply would follow Again, we are not talking about you receiving routed netmail _from_ John. But there isn't any reason you can't route netmail received at your system _to_ John... --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1005 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 12/05/93 1:27p Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GMD will send a message whenever he DELETES a message, Patty.. > REGARDLESS of any of the exclude parameters... Makes sense, per P4, I guess, John. Thanks for the info. :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1006 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 12/05/93 1:28p Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Film at 11..... Shouldn't that be .Gif at 11? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1007 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/05/93 1:28p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Not since it has gone down. Ack! Your regional feed has gone down? --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1008 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/05/93 1:29p Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Patty, I think he was complaining earlier that his NC just went down. > Who knows, maybe he'll be the next NC? Could be, but then he'd still have to maintain some type of regional feed, likely LD, both for himself and his net. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Number: 1009 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/05/93 9:10a Subj: IS ANYONE OUT THERE? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 2 Dec 93 11:24pm, Boyd Goodin wrote to Floyd Drennon: BG> Now if I could only get people to stop sending local areas to me I BG> think I would be able to work on getting this routed netmail thing BG> done, finalize the Usenet stuff, work on other networks, look into BG> a europe feed, and also find time for a life. ;-) Sorry Boyd, but in the contract I signed there was nothing about you finding time for a life! Seriously now, a couple of questions. Is it me or have you stopped sending the usenet test? I haven't received anything in days and haven't seen anyone else mention it (I know it was only temporary). Also, don't forget about the WINNET files that have the 'lost' TICs. SEBASTIAN ACOSTA ... Happy as a Pig in Mud! * Silver Xpress V4.00 SW12257 --- GEcho/RA 2.01 * Origin: Metro Data Group BBS HST/DS 21.6 Miami, Fl 305-378-2571 (1:135/94) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 1010 To: RIC WALSH Date: 12/03/93 3:54p Subj: Qfront Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> ML> Is anyone out there using QFRONT as a front end processor with the ML> -> satellite? We're considering a switch from D'Bridge (which takes *6* hours -> ML> per day on a 486). I'm using QFront and am having NO problems whatsoever.. he is updating things so that the password system works better, but for now things are super.. and fast. --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 1011 To: ALL Date: 12/03/93 7:35p Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I get this FILEBONE.NA file that has info in it about different files available .. I noted that PCBoard has a nice list of utilities and doors but that we are to request this service.. I have no clue how to go about requesting this but I do know that if we're getting Wildcat and Spitfire stuff that it would be nice to get PCBoard stuff (since there will be a large number of PCB systems on Planet Connect if not already, very soon). I personally would like to see lots of files coming through, but if we have to keep the numbers down I'd surely give up Wildcat and Spitfire files for PCBoard files <G> (sorry WC and SF sysops) since I end up nuking them anyway. Just an opinion... don't know how those files are chosen but wanted to voice and opinion.. maybe someone can fill me in on just what/where and how that file system works? I've looked all over for some form of documentation for things like that but have yet to find anything. --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1012 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/05/93 10:14a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I would pay to get it from the same place I leave off my mail. Not I. At present I spend $.10 * 30 days or roughly $3.00 per month to pick up our net's routed netmail. Unless Boyd can meet or beat that price, I would probably say that "I hope you were being sarcastic?? :)" If you wish to establish a routed netmail feed, contact John Knox at 1:147/7. If you ask him ever so nicely, he might allow you to have your net's netmail route through him. He connects direct with John every day and so can do what you're asking Boyd to do. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1013 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/05/93 10:27a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Humm..... do I smell an opportunity for business? <grin> > I would pay to get it from the same place I leave off my mail. > --- timEd-A10c > * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) Terry, I got this (and every other message that you wrote) twice. Here are the two info boxes on the message above, and if you want, I can put some info up on it: ╒════════════════════════╡ Notes ╞═╕ │ │ │ MSGID: 1:3625/441.0 cff63d33 │ │ REPLY: 1:396/1 2cfed606 │ │ PATH: 3625/441 3615/50 3807/100 │ │ │ ╘══════════════════════════════════╛ ╒════════════════════════╡ Notes ╞═╕ │ │ │ MSGID: 1:3625/441.0 cff63d33 │ │ REPLY: 1:396/1 2cfed606 │ │ PATH: 3625/441 3615/50 3807/100 │ │ │ ╘══════════════════════════════════╛ Maybe it's something on my end. Never know <sigh> see ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1014 To: KEN KAVANAGH Date: 12/05/93 10:30a Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > message, of the new rulebases. Much appreciated..I wondered why the > usenet stuff was getting sent to NUL <grin> Hmmm if it wasn't in there, it shouldn't have been going to NUL. It should have defaulted to the c:\skydata subdirectory. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1015 To: DAN WILLIAMSON Date: 12/05/93 10:36a Subj: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TL> This is what has come over so far. The usenet bundles have > TL> stopped for now though. I haven't seen anything since last > TL> Sunday. > > Perhaps hen things start flowing we can ask boyd to post an ACTIVE file > or a NEWSRC file to the datastream for us to use in configuring the > usenet feed? Good idea. Boyd: Make that two votes <g> I don't know which software you're using to gate it, but would it be hard to whip up a quick routine to scan your config files and pull out all area info? Then you can simply use XROBOT or something similar to post it to the PCSTAT area or whatever the heck you wanna call it. If need be, I could write a program that would do it, but it'll be in QuickBasic ;) I don't know any other languages well enough to do that See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIMOTHY WAGONER Number: 1016 To: ALL Date: 12/05/93 11:41a Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I am now set up for Planet Connect am am testing to see if the echomail goes through. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0395] * Origin: Signal Butte BBS (1:3400/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1017 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/05/93 12:28p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Souvestre wrote in a message to Terry Blount: JS> Right, and the Zone and Region Hubs could simply not keep up JS> with all the changes necessary to route to the individual JS> nodes. So the bottom line is that we can't exchange routed netmail with the hub where we upload our echo mail. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 1018 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/04/93 3:04p Subj: Creating a network Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Boyd, like others, I would like to see a true solution to this -> > issue of routed netmail rather than simply not dealing with it. We -> > extremely pleased with your concept (actually bought and installed -> -> One nice solution would be to have 10 systems, 6 in US and 4 in Ca -> each had a region and everone in each reagina would drop of mail to t -> systems instead of call directly to us. In turn we supply a number fo -> systems to drop off mail to us. We would not have a problem with rout -> as I would only have 10 systems to set up and routing would be handle -> system to mine then routed to what every of the 10 systems that net i -> well, I can dream though can't I? A better alternative would be for PC to donate a satellite system to each of the three U.S. Zone Hubs (incorrectly called stars; referring to George Peace, John Souvestre, and Dave James), wouldn't it? Then it would seem to be a simple matter for them to feed you. Better that and preserve the existing network than to create an entirely new one. A lot fewer headaches, I would think. Routing is not hard if you route to John. That sounds like a one-liner in the routing statement. Might be something to consider. -> -> > On another, more upbeat note, can you please tell us something -> > about yourself, how this all started, etc. One of our group asked a -> > we said we did not know but that I would make inquiries. A little -> -> Nope, I like keeping things a mystery. All I can say is that I am -> old, single, and my hair is turning white from this job! ;-) OK, that slams the door on that. Not answering a simple question will definitely keep things a mystery. No sweat. Your call. Of course the member of the group will question that but I'll pass on your quote. -> -> > history might be of interst to the other folks as well. What does -> > management at the shop-at-home channel you are working for think of -> > of this? When did you first get the idea? You are obviously an -> -> Could not tell you about what they think. We are two different comp -> founded by the same person. Joe Overhold works more of a consultant t -> nowadays. Shop At Home just uplinks our signal. I dont work for them. -> could not afford me! So, Joe Overhold is the owner/founder of Shop At Home as well as Planet Connect? That's reassuring, if I understand it correctly. Adds stability. I see that he is not in the Fido nodelist. How does one get hold of Joe? -> Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this and -> work for him a year ago today. I mainly worked on the Skylink project -> take care of the technical aspects of Planet Connect. Which of course -> taking care of the computers and stuff at the uplink. Joe is the one -> ideas, I just keep everything running a smooth as I can. Well, we are all pleased with the good job you and Joe have done. It has brought Fidonet a new technology. You guys are to be commended. -> I am not giving it up! Giving up is not in my vocabulary! JUst goi -> a while thats all. Who knows, maybe someday this 10 system idea will -> operation. Again, it seems to this writer to be a lot of unnecessary work. If there was a way to utilize the existing structure (and perhaps there is not; John Souvestre, what are your thought?) it might be advantageous to you. Again, we are all very pleased and look forward to expansion of the Planet Connect system/program. Regards, Poor Richard... --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 1019 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/03/93 10:37p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Wow, it poured for two days up here with high winds. Thanks a lot, -> Buddy!!! <G> Hang onto your hat Mike, high winds as a ton of rain starting tonight. That should bring you some lovely white snow in a week or so. Let me know what you think of that message Winter Diary that I sent you in RIME's Netadmin. I sent it R/O Routed but until Kip fixes the return receipts I won't know if you got it or not..... -> Looks like you got it set up great... Coming in loud and clear Not exactly. I'm receiving this feed via Fido but it won't be long, after the holidays, I'll be pulling this down (with EVERYTHING else) myself. A few of the locals chipped in and bought their own C-Band (10 foot dish) system and P_C's decoder and are starting to get their first feed. I'll see how their system works and also Bob Hunter (CHEMEK in RIME) just ordered the 3 foot Ku-Band system to use in Salem which is 35 miles south of me. Now I'll be able to see if Ku-band works in my area or not with P_C's bird and will make my choice at that time. I'd rather a 3 or better yet, 4 foot Ku band due to the smaller size but I'll go with what works in my area and I'm sure looking forward to it too! MA --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 6 Gigs (1:105/286) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 1020 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 12/04/93 3:34p Subj: Any problems? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > What are you folks using in Calgary? C or Ku? If Ku, any -> > problems? -> -> Richard, I'm at about the same latitude to you here in Ottawa, and I' -> perfect reception. Any snow problems? You did not specify which size dish you are using (2 or 3 footer). --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CLAY TINSLEY Number: 1021 To: ALL Date: 12/05/93 12:35p Subj: update Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can someone give me an update on how Planet Connect is operating these days? 1) How often is fresh mail put into the cycle? 2) Besides Fidonet Backbone echos and the FileBone files, what else is being transmitted? 3) What (if any) are the proposed changes to the above? Thanks! --- Msgedsq 2.2e * Origin: Verbose Ink * 214-437-0914 * Dallas * H16/V32b (1:124/5125) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE HEARN Number: 1022 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/05/93 11:00p Subj: PC Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mickey Ferguson stated these words of wisdom to Kyle Hearn: KH> MF> The use of 16550's is IMPERATIVE as is a FAST hard drive. KH> How big of a drive do you need/recommend for this? MF> Kyle, I thought everyone knew that hard drives only come in MF> one size.....TOO SMALL!!! <GRIN> Tell me about it. That monster 1.2 I bought a few weeks ago had 1000 mb free this morning. After putting unix on it, it has 800 less than it did earlier. MF> I'm running a 180meg drive on the PC system. That machine MF> only runs a mail only board and Planet Connect, so 180meg MF> has been enough thus far. I wish I could get away with that. My current message bbs takes up around 200MB! Kyle --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Metroplex Mailbox*650 Echos*Metro 817-268-1422 (1:130/1008) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 1023 To: ALL Date: 12/05/93 10:02a Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I finally found the G-4 satellite and began receiving data about 10 days ago. I have a few questions! <g> I have a dedicated machine receiving the satellite data, configured as a Lantastic server. This works fine. I am looking for a way to automate the processing of the data. I have tried running PCUTIL from a workstation (which is my BBS) .. but cannot get it to work properly. PCUTIL works fine if I take down the satellite software and run it from the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! Thanks for your help! --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1024 To: HECTOR MANDEL Date: 12/05/93 12:52p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> In a msg on <Dec 03 03:50>, John Lyon of 1:2380/400 writes: -> -> JL> your -> JL> startnet.bat that allows you to use each server as a drive -> JL> letter -> JL> and each drive as a sub dir. Would that help ya? -> -> What's the command???? I haven't seen it documented anywhere, so don't know if I should be telling the world about it <g> - Just kidding - hope it isn't a "hole" that Artisoft plugs after this! I stumbled across this by accident, but it works like a champ. When you connect to the server(s) with the NET USE command, DON'T specify the drive name on the server - just specify the drive letter you want to access it under and the server name, WITHOUT A SERVER DRIVE NAME. NET USE P: //SERVER1 All of the drives on the server will show up as directories on that drive (ie: the 7 drives on SERVER1 in the above command would show as p:/drivename directories). You can then switch to the individual directory names to access each individual drive. Hope that helps! John.... --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1025 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/05/93 12:57p Subj: NEW NODE GETTING THIS ECH Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > your startnet.bat that allows you to use each server as a drive -> > letter and each drive as a sub dir. Would that help ya? -> -> It might help. I'd be interested to see what you've got at any rate. I just sent this to Hector but I'll do it again incase you miss my responce to him. I haven't seen it documented anywhere, so don't know if I should be telling the world about it <g> - Just kidding - hope it isn't a "hole" that Artisoft plugs after this! I stumbled across this by accident, but it works like a champ. When you connect to the server(s) with the NET USE command, DON'T specify the drive name on the server - just specify the drive letter you want to access it under and the server name, WITHOUT A SERVER DRIVE NAME. NET USE P: //SERVER1 All of the drives on the server will show up as directories on that drive (ie: the 7 drives on SERVER1 in the above command would show as p:/drivename directories). You can then switch to the individual directory names to access each individual drive. Hope that helps! John... --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1026 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/06/93 5:18a Subj: File Echos Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Out of curiosity do we need to contact all the file bone distributors if > we plan on carrying the files transmitted on our systems? Nope, the filebone is an open system. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Number: 1027 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/06/93 9:30a Subj: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd: I noticed that you started sending a filebond file and then it's accompanying TIC file. THANK YOU. That will solve some problems! I now have a dedicated C-band hookup to Planet Connect on G3 (no more sharing my home dish with you). It meant getting another satellite dish in my back yard, but I just tell my neighbors tha I am starting a cable company. Haven't gotten any orders yet..... Any "official" news on the Newsgroups yet? I guess I need to know is what kind of software will I need to run. A gateway program such as Fredmail (I run a Wildcat BBS)? Do I even need to run it since I run a passthru system? I probably speak for a lot of people whenI say we'd like to hear about your upcoming plans concerning the newsgroups, including pricing. I also assume that sooner or later, maybe in a year, PC will eventually have to go to a continuous system instead of a discrete mail system, so we are working on this. Our mail HUB computer doubles for our Planet Connect collection computer, but our NET is saving and scrounging for equipment to build another computer. We have the motherboard, the power supply, and memory, we need at least a 200 MEG hard drive and some network cards and software. Once we get those, we'll write some programs to pull the mail from the computers, check to see if it is all there (TIC'S and files), and then toss them as they come in. As it is now, a programmer named Mark Gibson has written a program called PCHECK, which checks all the files that come in off the satellite in the holding directory to the UPLD.LST that you send. If all the files are present, it exits to a certain errorlevel which I have, among other things, set to run PCUTIL, toss the mail and run TIC. If the mail is not all present (and this happens a lot, sorry!), then the errorlevel that is returned is set to restart up PTCCMAIN and it runs another cycle. It usually only takes two cycles to get the mail, but the program can be set to attempt so many cycles so that our HUB isn't CONSTANTLY tied up getting PC mail. We have our systems runnign with hardly a glitch. Thanks for and Joe for such a wonderful concept and all your hard work. Rudolf Rothemund NC/NEC Net 2440 --- WM v3.10/92-0432 * Origin: The USS Columbia (216) 345-5807 (1:2440/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DIANE SUMMERS Number: 1028 To: TIMOTHY WAGONER Date: 12/06/93 10:30a Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Timothy! TW> I am now set up for Planet Connect am am testing to see if the echomail TW> goes through. Here's typing at you from Mobile, Alabama! Welcome aboard! :) ...Di * WCE 1.10/2184 * Cats hate Windows, mouse driven ya know. --- WM v3.10/93-0963 * Origin: Di's Online Cafe - Mobile, AL - (205) (1:3625/470) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEREMY HALL Number: 1029 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/06/93 5:01p Subj: Re: map.config Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GV> Does anyone know exactly what usenet groups are coming down the satellite I You have to watch really really fast. See, when it says message dumped, you need to reprocess the mail after you add the group that "dumped" When you are done, delete the packets it creates and redo it one last time to create the real packets for your downlinks. This prevents dupes. --- Renegade V07-17BETA * Origin: Standing on the wormhole Deep Space IX Murfreesboro (1:116/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS CHILDS Number: 1030 To: ALL Date: 12/06/93 6:51p Subj: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey anybody: I just got into this planet connect and thing and i was just wondering. About how much would it cost me to get it all connected to my house? I am talking the software and hardware required. How much would all of that be total? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Files R Us BBs 615-226-4218 (1:116/85) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1031 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/07/93 3:22a Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Not since it has gone down. > Ack! Your regional feed has gone down? Porno .GIF at 11????? <G> --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 (1:116/205) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1032 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 12/07/93 3:24a Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I totally agree, this TV stuff is only worth a DEL *.* > and runs up our > Satellite connect cost <g> I hope it isn't costing > Planet Connect > anything to obtain it. > Regards, > Hans Mine go straight to >NUL as they come in....BUT they _DO_ serve a useful function! They let you know you are betwixt the cycles of the USEFUL stuff!.....Joe...are you listening? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 (1:116/205) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1033 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 3:25a Subj: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Yep i know. This is for the furture when I have > time to die my hair back to its original color. > ...Boyd Hey Moosehead! At least you _HAVE_ a little hair left to dye! <G> I'd prefer that mine turned gray rather than LOOSE! <G> --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 (1:116/205) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1034 To: JEFF WARD Date: 12/07/93 12:53a Subj: Re: RIME Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi Boyd! Hi Jeff! > Any idea on when RIME will start feeding? Thanks! Not at the moment. Still waiting for the rime boss to say it is ok.. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1035 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 12/07/93 12:55a Subj: Re: lannet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > is LANNET flowing? haven;t seen anything... As far as i know it is active on my system. If anything comes in it goes over the sat. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1036 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/07/93 12:57a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What is being asked is for you to route netmail received by your > downlinks when they call to drop off their return echomail to John for > delivery back down the chain. That I have no problem with as long as they go to John. If they end up in my netmail area I will delete them. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1037 To: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Date: 12/07/93 1:03a Subj: Re: IS ANYONE OUT THERE? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Sorry Boyd, but in the contract I signed there was nothing about you > finding > time for a life! Seriously now, a couple of questions. Is it me or have And a merry Xmas to you too!;-) > you > stopped sending the usenet test? I haven't received anything in days and > haven't seen anyone else mention it (I know it was only temporary). I Well they are back up. I have two going out. THe PCUSENET.001 is done with a util that will insert our name so we dont have to toss in and toss back out of the system. PCUSENET.002 is done with a toss in toss out format. I want everyone to try it and see if both work or if one works betterthan the other. > Also, don't forget about the WINNET files that have the 'lost' TICs. Guess I will just have to sent all 50 megs that I have sitting here. I forgot which ones they were. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1038 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 12/07/93 1:10a Subj: Re: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > accompanying TIC file. THANK YOU. That will solve some problems! We aim to please. > in my back yard, but I just tell my neighbors tha I am starting a cable > company. Haven't gotten any orders yet..... All you need now is the FCC on your back asking if you are stealing HBO or something. > Any "official" news on the Newsgroups yet? I guess I need to know is > what kind of software will I need to run. A gateway program such as > Fredmail (I run a Wildcat BBS)? Do I even need to run it since I run a > passthru system? I probably speak for a lot of people whenI say we'd > like to hear about your upcoming plans concerning the newsgroups, > including pricing. Weeeelllllll now I think the format will be in the bag format (like Pagesat's) that a lot of uucp gateway programs have made changes for. Still in the testing phase and should have everything going by the first of the new year. > I also assume that sooner or later, maybe in a year, PC will > eventually have to go to a continuous system instead of a discrete mail > system, so we are working on this. Our mail HUB computer doubles for > our Planet Connect collection computer, but our NET is saving and > scrounging for equipment to build another computer. We have the > motherboard, the power supply, and memory, we need at least a 200 MEG > hard drive and some network cards and software. Takes time to perfect pertection! > We have our systems runnign with hardly a glitch. Thanks for and > Joe for such a wonderful concept and all your hard work. I thank you, Joe thanks you, the bank thanks you, IDC thanks you, The phone company thanks you, Hughes thanks you, CIT thanks you, and of course, Joe's family thanks you. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1039 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/07/93 1:13a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hey Moosehead! At least you _HAVE_ a little hair left to dye! <G> Ahhh, Jerry has a big mouth! Ok hoser. Well thats one thing I can say is that I do have a full set of hair. > I'd prefer that mine turned gray rather than LOOSE! <G> Got a few good years in me yet! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 1040 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 12/05/93 8:42p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MA>Not exactly. I'm receiving this feed via Fido but it won't be long, after th MA>holidays, I'll be pulling this down (with EVERYTHING else) myself. Hi Mark! Ah go ahead and spring for it! (Get the 3 ft Ku! ;-) ) Do you think Rime admin is in here? <g> --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 1041 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/06/93 7:04p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> command line option JD> would seem a good way for everyone to be happy. I'd sure JD> appreciate the option, myself. I'll put it on the list of things to do...... LONG LIST ;-) John.... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1042 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/06/93 5:52p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jerry! 05 Dec 93, Jerry Dunlap writes to John Morano: JD> If it could be optional I'd still like to have it do that. I plan to wait JD> till the missing file comes in and if it's not there by the second pass, JD> I'll file-request it from Boyd. Either way, I'd want the option to stop JD> processing until I either got the file or manually bypassed it. I have written a utility that does dupe checking for all areas and will copy/move/erase dupes and new files to specified subdirectories. It also checks and logs unlisted (not in Upld.lst file) files and will Copy/move/ or erase them. It also keep track of files missed and exits with an errorlevel based on the results of the run. It is in alpha testing right now but I will make it available when it is ready. Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1043 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/06/93 5:58p Subj: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 06 Dec 93, Boyd Goodin writes to Jerry Dunlap: >>> Please dont give me all the credit. Joe Overhold founded this >> That's Overholt..........<g> Good thing Joe has a sense of humor. BG> Hope he never caught that one. He would never let me live it down. He BG> said he is going to buy me a spell checker for Xmas. Go figure? Just tell him it's the Canadian spelling :-)). Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1044 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/06/93 10:21p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/06/93> Boyd Goodin wrote: BG> > I have tried and my efforts are failures. Any suggestions on a BG> > program name to convert them. BG> BG> The new RIPPAINT does allow you to take a PCX file and convert it to a BG> icon right? I also heard that you can make that icon as big as you want r BG> BG> THis is just what I heard now folks. BG> BG> ...Boyd Well it does try but the thing comes back and tells me that the screen is too large and bombs out. Any other rippers out there that can do it please fill me in. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * John Wayne would have used WcEDIT! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1045 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/06/93 9:55p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi John, is there a way I can manually edit out any previously 'moved' files from the dupe checker index file to have the next pass of pcutil allow certain files to be moved rather than deleted? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DALLAS HINTON Number: 1046 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/06/93 12:15p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd -- on Dec 06 1993 at 01:16, you wrote: BG> Yep i know. This is for the furture when I have time to BG> die my hair back to its original color. :-)) Take it from me -- it doesn't work! :-)) Cheers ... Dallas --- * Origin: The BandMaster, Vancouver BC, CANADA [604-266-7754] (1:153/715) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1047 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/06/93 9:01p Subj: Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sunday December 05 1993, Todd Lyons writes to Ken Kavanagh: Hello Todd! >> message, of the new rulebases. Much appreciated..I wondered why the >> usenet stuff was getting sent to NUL <grin> TL> Hmmm if it wasn't in there, it shouldn't have been going to NUL. It TL> should have defaulted to the c:\skydata subdirectory. Without boring you too much with my set up here...basically I only have a 40 meg hard drive on the computer receiving the sat stuff..for fear of grinding it to a stand still with a ton of usenet stuff..I had the rulebase for usenet going to nul..but had forgotten about that..so now that I'm looking at getting usenet sent around locally here and have a possible gate back in, I have set it up. but as you've said, nothing is coming through at the moment..oh well :) Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Monday December 06 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1048 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 4:16a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> It is surprising what you get when you advertise in BG> magazines and have a both at ONEBBSCON. BG> > Me too. But I am sure you _PICK UP_ some routed net mail > messages that are were routed to you. That is what I wanted to be able > do. BG> BG> Yes and I get them from MY hub not from John. You also get them from John as he has a Send line for you.... --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1049 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/07/93 4:21a Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL> I get this FILEBONE.NA file that has info in it about JL> different files available JL> .. I noted that PCBoard has a nice list of utilities JL> and doors but that we are JL> to request this service.. I have no clue how to go JL> about requesting this but I JL> do know that if we're getting Wildcat and Spitfire JL> stuff that it would be nice I'll just mosy over to the File_Movers echo and forward this puppy there -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1050 To: DAVE REED Date: 12/07/93 7:51a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Reed wrote in a message to Terry Blount: DR> Routed netmail is NOT to be used for commercial purposes. DR> You, of all folks, should know that, Terry. The CD-ROM DR> folks are creating quite a stir at the RC/ZC level, and the DR> result may not be something you like. That's why I quit DR> advertising to FidoNet SysOps. I believe he was speaking of Boyd's business (Planet Connect)... Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1051 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 7:57a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Patty Pickett: BG> Almost as good as the Playboy channel... Probably better...:-) Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB FRADY Number: 1052 To: ALL Date: 12/07/93 11:11p Subj: New Guy Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I just wanted to so howdy. I'm the new guy on the block here. Just finished getting my system switched over. So far I'm very pleased with everything. I want to commend Boyd and Joe for providing this service. Just through some quick calculations, I figured that the purchase of this system (Ku band) and the subscription would pay for itself in less than a year from what it was costing me in LD charges for echomail and file feeds. I'm also in the process of expanding my BBS with an additional 2 nodes, 2 Gigs of HD space, and another CD within the next few weeks. (Actually the new 486DX/2-66 will arrive in the morning but I'm still waiting on Southern Bell and US Robotics to deliver. <G> With the addition of this service, it will allow me excellent exandability. Again, this service is the best thing since sliced bread! <G> Bob Frady --- WM v3.10/93-0191 * Origin: High Tech Center BBS: NC 16.8K USR/DS (1:379/607) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 1053 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/07/93 9:20p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TM> Hi John, is there a way I can manually edit out any TM> previously 'moved' files from the dupe checker index file to Just use any editor (DOS 5 Edit works) and delete the line with the file name in it in the CHECK.IDX file, I make it a plain ascii file file just for that purpose. Have fun... John.... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1054 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/07/93 6:10a Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Saturday December 04 1993, Dennis Powers writes to Ervin Jay: DP>>> ZONE 1 i:\outbound\ <===== this is the outbound copymail sees EJ>> It will simply assume that everyone has already picked them up, since EJ>> there are no FLO files remaining. DP> Never had the problem here....hmmm.. I only run tick once a day here and I DP> guess I've been lucky that I get all passthru files delivered prior to DP> it's next run.... This is going to take some thought. When you figure it out, I'd really appreciate knowing how, it could come in extremely handy... Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1055 To: JOHN BURTON Date: 12/07/93 6:16a Subj: TICK PROCESSING SECRETS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sunday December 05 1993, John Burton writes to Ervin Jay: >> It will simply assume that everyone has already picked them up, since there >> are no FLO files remaining. JB> My problem exactly, Ervin.... :( JB> I've "solved" it by running TICK when I bring TBBS down to scan for JB> outbound echomail. JB> That way, TICK only looks at "real" outbound areas, not dummy areas built JB> for CopyMail's use... But, this kind of defeats the purpose of Tic'ng to a Copymail area in the first place, as, if there are TIC files to process, Tick will process them directly into the Normal Outbound, again running into the problem of not sending a file to a node which may be connected. JB> I guess what we need is a network aware TICK proggie... One that JB> reads/writes .BSY flags, and utilizes a staging area.... Hey, not _that_ would be a great idea, you a programmer :))) Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1056 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/07/93 6:21a Subj: GMD Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Friday December 03 1993, Patty Pickett writes to Ervin Jay: >> KillerDOG -d 3615/50 -m Grunged_Message PP> Oh, okay, Ervin, thanks for the info. :) You are welcome, Hope it worked for you... :)) Cheers, Ervin ... Heller's Law: The first myth of management is that it exists. --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1057 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/06/93 2:25p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to John Souvestre: > to route anything you receive through me. It will then follow the > conventional Backbone echomail channels to its destination. BG> BG> Ok. now everyone listen up. I wiltake you stuff and pass BG> it on. But if the format is bad and it ends up not being BG> forwarded to John I will be deleting it. Be careful Boyd.....As you know, there are those that are not happy about the Planet Connect service and look for any excuse to raise a ruckus..... To delete undeliverable netmail is very much against policy and could easily put your node number in the middle of a policy complaint.....If you agree to route it then you also agree to return it if you cant. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1058 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/07/93 9:13a Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MF> > I totally agree, this TV stuff is only worth a DEL *.* MF> > and runs up our MF> > Satellite connect cost <g> I hope it isn't costing MF>Mine go straight to >NUL as they come in....BUT they _DO_ MF>serve a useful function! They let you know you are betwixt MF>the cycles of the USEFUL stuff!.....Joe...are you listening? With our total daily capacity up around 160 megs, I don't think Joe should cease putting anything on the bird that he thinks any of us might be interested in. Those of us who do not want any of it can just send it to NUL as you say. I say that Joe should throw up everything he can get his hands on and let us use it if we want and NUL if we don't. --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: RxShop 615-646-9481 Nashville TN HST/V32b/ISDN (1:116/5000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY RUSSELL Number: 1059 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/07/93 3:05p Subj: NEWCOMER! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have a dedicated machine receiving the satellite data, configured > as a Lantastic server. This works fine. I am looking for a way to > automate the processing of the data. I have tried running PCUTIL from a > workstation (which is my BBS) .. but cannot get it to work properly. > PCUTIL works fine if I take down the satellite software and run it > from the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with > incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! Thanks for > your Well there are all ways of doing it so here is how I do it !: I have a 4 computer setup here, as I am NEC for the NET and here is how I do it. I run TBBS (8 lines) with TIMS (mailer) on the BBS machine (Lantastic Server). I Run QMAIL (thanks George) on a dedicated server along with ALLFIX,AREAFIX and COPYMAIL. Next I run the Satellite system on a machine all by it's self. The Sat. system is configured as a Workstation not a Server. When the SAT system is booted it automatically runs PCUTIL CHECK4 then starts the SAT program. After the SAT gets it's data and when the system gets a signal fron the SAT and drops to DOS I have it reboot the system with a program called BOOTIT, the system compeletly reboots and runs PCUTIL and moves all new files over the LAN to my Mail machine then the SAT system resumes it's data gathering. I reboot the machine each time to assure the LAN connect is good since I run it as a Workstation it just relogs on to the mail machine. I also made a little SAT.BSY flag file that is copied over ahead of the files by the batch program, the mail program looks for this flag prior to moving the inbound files for mail processing, if it sees it it just loops in the batch file until it disappers, then deletes it when the copy process is complete. Now on the mail machine I have a BAT FILE in a contionus loop looking for inbound mail both 0000ffff.* files in the sub dir where the PCUTIL moved them and on the BBS machine (TIMS) inbound dir. If there is new mail in either place the batch file MOVES (DOS 6.X) it to Qmails inbound dir. on the mail machine. I then invoke QMAIL/AREAFIX to toss and pack all mail and then use COPYMAIL to move it back to the BBS'S outbound Dir. I also run ALLFIX now to clean out all the new inbound Files/Tic TOTAL PROCESSING, TOTALLY HANDS OFF !!!! Regards Jerry PS you milage may vary ! --- TMail v1.31 * Origin: TechTalk BBS, Cocoa,FL (1:374/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1060 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/07/93 1:21p Subj: Tvagent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD->MF>Mine go straight to >NUL as they come in....BUT they _DO_ JD->MF>serve a useful function! They let you know you are betwixt JD->MF>the cycles of the USEFUL stuff!.....Joe...are you listening? JD->With our total daily capacity up around 160 megs, I don't think Joe should JD->cease putting anything on the bird that he thinks any of us might be JD->interested in. Those of us who do not want any of it can just send it to N JD->as you say. I say that Joe should throw up everything he can get his hands JD->on and let us use it if we want and NUL if we don't. The point is, Jerry, the TVAgent program _only_ runs on the machine with the dongle on it. There is no way whatever for your users to try it out & see if they like it or not. They can order a subscription to it, but they are doing that blind [which means they won't do it at all, because BBS users are spoiled into the belief they have a _right_ to try it _before_ they register/subscribe or whatever]. I can't put the TV listing files up for download because a lot of my users know where I live! <G> Why do it if the BBS caller can do nothing with them once they've downloaded them. Having them there doesn't bother me because I automatically send them to >NUL. And I would _strongly_ argue the 160 meg daily capacity. That only applies if you have _no_ repeats. And if missing mail is ok with you, then I guess you don't need repeats. Remember it only takes ONE error for you to miss a mail bundle! Sure, you'll say "but I'd just freq it from Boyd"; but you might not say that if you were in Bermuda! <G> If Planet Connect stops repeating the mail and you don't get everything the when it is sent, it is lost for good. Not everyone can afford to start freqing a meg or two of missed mail from Boyd every day, nor could Boyd support that without a major expansion in the number of phone lines there! 160meg daily capacity? I'd say that 40 meg is a much more realistic figure. (Four repeats per day.) I still maintain, the TV listing stuff serves a useful function...it shows that you are between cycles of the stuff you can use. <G> You see, I was arguing FOR have the TV listing files on the bird. <G> * OLX 2.1 * I take no responsibility for the Random Taglines. --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives (615)-952-2254 V32b Node 1 (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1061 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 1:30p Subj: Re: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Patty, I am talking with the boss on that and hopefully we can find a > sollution to this problem. Thanks much, Boyd, hopefully I'm not the only one who will thank you for it. :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1062 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 1:30p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Almost as good as the Playboy channel... Drats, I thought I deleted 3615/50 from that echo distribution. ;D --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1063 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 1:31p Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > sometime in April or May at our Region 19 Poor Man's Fidocon & Lake > > Party. > > May have to go to that. You're certainly welcome, Boyd, as long as you're not in the line to throw the bride and/or groom into the lake following the nuptials. <G> > Heck the boss wont even let me have a day off let alone go to Texas! Beg... tell him it's good PR. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1064 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 12/07/93 1:33p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I totally agree, this TV stuff is only worth a DEL *.* and runs up our > Satellite connect cost <g> I hope it isn't costing Planet Connect > anything to obtain it. We had been copying it over to the network drives in the hopes that one day we'd have time to take a look at them, Hans, but since we discovered that it requires that bloody dongle to run we just basically send it to the bit bucket. :sigh: --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1065 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/07/93 1:37p Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I get this FILEBONE.NA file that has info in it about different files > available.. I noted that PCBoard has a nice list of utilities and doors > but that we are to request this service.. I have no clue how to go > about requesting this but I do know that if we're getting Wildcat and > Spitfire stuff that it would be nice to get PCBoard stuff (since there Read the footer in Filebone.na, John, the PCB* FDN are not yet on the filebone although it has requested this status. Send netmail to one of the listed filebone hubs and request that it be placed on the filebone. Assuming that the FDN head isn't some kind of control freak, once on the filebone you'll likely see it coming over the satellite sometime thereafter. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1066 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/07/93 6:49p Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Porno .GIF at 11????? <G> Naw, we'll just hatch them out via our local Whips-N-Chains FDN. <G> --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WATSON Number: 1067 To: ALL Date: 12/06/93 3:15p Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Could someone please help me understand they're solution to the Duplicates problem.. Is there a specific tosser or such that seems to be doing a good job at eliminating duplicates? If so, which one(s) are you using? Also a brief outline as to how you've set it up would certainly help me alot... --- SLMAIL v3.0 (#1811) * Origin: Undiscovered Country *Windsor, Ont.* 7.23 Gigs (519)258-7651 (1:246/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WATSON Number: 1068 To: ALL Date: 12/06/93 3:18p Subj: Manual, Docs, etc.. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I received my setup during the final BetaTest phase, I recieved no manual or docs for Programs Like PCUTIL and the other small utilities in the PLANETC or main directory.. Are there docs for these programs and could you send them down through the Satellite if there is.. I'd like a decent description of the workings of PCUTIL at least.. Thanks in advance.. --- SLMAIL v3.0 (#1811) * Origin: Undiscovered Country *Windsor, Ont.* 7.23 Gigs (519)258-7651 (1:246/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT WATSON Number: 1069 To: ALL Date: 12/06/93 3:20p Subj: Searchlight & Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are there any other Searchlight BBS Software sysops around out there, who are connected to PC or such that would like to possibly trade notes with me. I'm running under Searchlight, and would like to exchange hints and tips which might benefit both of us.. --- SLMAIL v3.0 (#1811) * Origin: Undiscovered Country *Windsor, Ont.* 7.23 Gigs (519)258-7651 (1:246/61) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1070 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/07/93 7:45p Subj: Tvagent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > And I would _strongly_ argue the 160 meg daily capacity. That > only > applies if you have _no_ repeats. And if missing mail is ok > phone lines > there! 160meg daily capacity? I'd say that 40 meg is a much > more > realistic figure. (Four repeats per day.) Ok, 40 meg per day sounds ok to me for the present. We still have alot of space left for goodies. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1071 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/07/93 7:47p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JD> command line option > JD> would seem a good way for everyone to be happy. I'd sure > JD> appreciate the option, myself. > > I'll put it on the list of things to do...... > > LONG LIST ;-) I understand and thanks for the good program. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1072 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/07/93 7:48p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have written a utility that does dupe checking for all areas > and will copy/move/erase dupes and new files to specified > subdirectories. It also checks and logs unlisted (not in > Upld.lst file) files and will Copy/move/ or erase them. It also > keep track of files missed and exits with an errorlevel based on > the results of the run. It is in alpha testing right now but I > will make it available when it is ready. Great. I wonder if we could start a new file echoe for this sort of thing and have it sent over the bird? --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM OXFORD Number: 1073 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/07/93 11:47a Subj: Re: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi John, is there a way I can manually edit out any > previously 'moved' files from the dupe checker index > file to have the next pass of pcutil allow certain files > to be moved rather than deleted? Tracy, I do it by using a text editor and editing the CHECK.IDX file, just delete the line and the next time pcutil moves files it will move that one again. Thats the way I make sure that duplicate named mail files get moved if they are not the same. To check to see if its a duplicate name, just check the file time of when it was put together. --- QM v1.26/b * Origin: Torii Station TBBS 150,000 Files @14Gig (1:147/20) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 1074 To: HANS HOOGSTRAAT Date: 12/06/93 6:06p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I totally agree, this TV stuff is only worth a DEL *.* and runs > up our > Satellite connect cost <g> I hope it isn't costing Planet > Connect > anything to obtain it. I'm with you on this. I don't htink I've looked at the TV listings but about twice since I've been running PC. It would be a shame if I major part of our price that we pat for PC is TV listings and we can't do anything with them. Later! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:379/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1075 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 11:26p Subj: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Area ZYXELROM 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZYXEL Firmware Area ZYXTEXT 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZyXEL Text Files Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party Tools ; Info File: ZYXELNET.* ; North America ZyXBONE HQ: Patrick Martin 1:102/825 ; Suggested Conf: ZYXEL (backbone) is the above coming over the dish? If not what can be done to get it on the dish? I can put a good word in for you if can tell me the requirements you need filled.. ( I am the ZyXELNET region 27 RC & REC) Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 1076 To: JEFF WARD Date: 12/06/93 9:25p Subj: Rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Any idea when RIME will start feeding? Bonnie is waiting for her PC satellite dish to begin testing, but apparently it's backordered. --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1077 To: RICHARD BASH Date: 12/07/93 9:08a Subj: ANY PROBLEMS? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Any snow problems? You did not specify which size dish you are using > (2 or 3 footer). Sorry, I'm using a 1M KU band dish with a .08 LNB (or is that .8? - I can'T remember) We've had a few cm's of snow lately and go very slightly lower signal. I've been checking the meter very carefully every day. On clear days it goes up over 8, on cloudy, snowy days, it drops to just under 8. I don't know the specs on these receivers, but the meter appears to be linear, not logorithmic in nature(by db's) so it's difficult to tell just how much signal degeneration there is at each mark on the meter. Most AM/FM transceivers use S units to determine signal strength, based on how many db's per mark on the meter. Every 3 db equals twice the perceived power...(in radio terms). At 44 or 45 degrees you shouldn't have any problems. If you suspect otherwise, contact a local HAM operator or professional. (a HAM will give you an honest answer) Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BASIL GROMAN Number: 1078 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 8:36a Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Monday December 06 1993 01:07, Boyd Goodin wrote to Patty Pickett: >> somewhat nullifies your reasons for including it. Could you perhaps >> reconsider and find some other way of protecting your interests with >> regards to TVAGENT? BG> Patty, I am talking with the boss on that and hopefully we can find a BG> sollution to this problem. I agree with Patty. My Planet Connect computer is a dedicated system that I keep out of the way. I thought I'd be able to pass the info over the network to my work computer. Was a little annoyed that I couldn't. At this particular point in time, those listings are useless to me. So make this another vote for an alternative form of copy protection for the TV agent. Thanks, Basil --- GoldED/P16 2.42.G1114+ * Origin: GSICS Online 417-334-3885 16.8HST/v32bis (1:284/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1079 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 12:32a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > to route anything you receive through me. It will then follow the -> > conventional Backbone echomail channels to its destination. -> -> Ok. now everyone listen up. I wiltake you stuff and pass it on. B -> format is bad and it ends up not being forwarded to John I will be de -> -> -> ...Boyd Persistent, aren't they!! :)! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1080 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 1:06a Subj: Re: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Computers are wierd aren't they. Its like they have a mind of thie -> Glad we could help. HELP!!!!!!!! Another "bug" has bitten my "dish" system. I came home from work this morning and found the following: Division by zero in line 0 of module PCUTL at address 1514:0046. The system was locked up tighter then a drum. I'm running PCUTIL.EXE dated 9/25/93. Got any ideas???? Thanks, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1081 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/07/93 12:57a Subj: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Yup.....If you would have just used a batch file to load the network -> PCUTIL's errorlevels for all files recieved then rebooted afterwards -> probably would have been fine. -> Hi Greg, Well, since all that system does is connect the satellite to the LAN, I decided that the 386sx-40 was overkill. The 286 should do just fine. BUT, I just posted a message about a system lock up. Have to wait for a reply. Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1082 To: DAVE REED Date: 12/06/93 8:07p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Reed wrote in a message to Terry Blount: DR> Routed netmail is NOT to be used for commercial purposes. DR> You, of all folks, should know that, I personally don't route ANY netmail. I was talking about the problem of educating everyone in fidoland to crash their netmail when they wanted to order something from a business or an individual. DR> The CD-ROM DR> folks are creating quite a stir at the RC/ZC level, and the DR> result may not be something you like. If anyone is treated unfairly or singled out because of their business (when it is legal) I wouldn't like it. DR> That's why I quit advertising to FidoNet SysOps. I don't see why you would let Us Robotics, Quaterdeck, Wordperfect, Microsoft, Borland, BlueWave, Clipper, Paradox, Ashton-Tate, Lantastic, Novell, Qedit, Qmodem, Telix, Telemate, Pcboard, Wildcat, Quick BBS, Remote Access, Searchlight Spitfire, VBBS... and hundreds other companies have all the fun. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1083 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/06/93 8:22p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Patty Pickett wrote in a message to Terry Blount: PP> Ack! Your regional feed has gone down? Not totally ...it has begin to quiver and show signs of new life. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK ROSINSKI Number: 1084 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 11/29/93 11:59p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >are not in the FIDONET.NA file. A rule of thumb. If it is not in the >FIDONET.NA file I DONT WANT IT! What about messages from echoes in the FIDONET.NO file? We are getting those echoes via the satellite. --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#0480) * Origin: Wolverine (517) 695-9964 (1:239/1004) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM WEISS Number: 1085 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/05/93 5:21p Subj: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 12-03-93, BOYD GOODIN wrote to LARRY JAMES: BG> Who's Veger? You're probably not a Star Trek Fan. It was supposedly one of the first unmanned deep space probes sent out to learn and adapt. It's original name was Voyageur. However, it's name got mutilated in a space accident. -=- * Freddie 1.2.5 * Zonker says: "Pardon me. Do you have grey poop on?" --- SLMAIL v3.1 (#0480) * Origin: Wolverine (517) 695-9964 (1:239/1004) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 1086 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 6:32a Subj: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The new RIPPAINT does allow you to take a PCX file and convert > it to an icon right? I also heard that you can make that icon as > big as you want right? It does allow you to create an icon but it all has to be done manually. We need a utility that works in a batch file. The other problem with creating an icon is that it needs to be downloaded by the user in order to be used by Ripterm. There isn't much use in creating a set of temporary weather map icons when the user must download the files anyway. A .RIP file is what we need in order to make the weather screens viewable immediately without "download". I don't know of a utility that will convert a .PCX to .RIP at the moment. Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 1087 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 11:56a Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > yes and yes...I even put the dips back to the default suggested in the > -> txt that you sent down..thinking that was it.. the latest software seems > -> to be more susceptible (sp?) to errors.. -> -> Did you make sure that you are locked on satellite. Make sure that the -> polorization is horizonal. I had to play with the recommended settings to get one that works for me.. was almost at the very top of the list - far away from the most recommended - before I started getting error-free reception.. had I not had an ex-satellite tech here to play around with these things I'd probably be only getting 30% of the files right now <G> --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1088 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/08/93 7:26a Subj: IS ANYONE OUT THERE? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I Well they are back up. I have two going out. THe PCUSENET.001 is > done with a util that will insert our name so we dont have to toss in > and toss back out of the system. PCUSENET.002 is done with a toss in > toss out format. I want everyone to try it and see if both work or if > one works betterthan the other. 002 worked MUCH MUCH better. I got TONS of errors "repositioning" during the 001 file. .002 tossed just fine. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: NICK ASHTON-HART Number: 1089 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 11:41p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd: Monday December 06 1993 00:44, Boyd Goodin wrote to Glenn Caleval: BG> Or a break down in my brian. :-) ^^^^^ Looks like it's too late already. Nick CIS: 71754,212. Internet: Nick_Ashton-Hart@f335.n202.z1.fidonet.org --- * Origin: The Free Radical (FidoNet 1:202/335) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1090 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 10:47p Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 06 01:13>, Boyd Goodin writes: > May Santy Claus be extra kind to you and yours! <G> BG> ^^^^^^ BG> There is only ME! So I want MORE! <GRIN> BG> Nothing a few good bottles of JB wont fix... JB? I figured you boys would be burning Tennessee Lemonaid. :-) --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1091 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 10:49p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 06 01:11>, Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Yep. By the way, whats the problem with bink that you cant BG>connect with D'bridge on the ISDN line? It wasn't Bink, it was ClassAxe. I've since gotten a new version of Bink and I'll try it out in the next day or so to make sure all works. Will advise. I still haven't decided whether I'm keeping the ISDN or not. Equipment cost are still a question. BTW, got the equipment. No instructions however... but that never stopped me before. Say which side goes toward the satellite? Convex or concave side? <smirk> D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1092 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 10:51p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 06 01:10>, Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Ahhhh, the good old days when I still had brown hair........ Ha! Yeh, well be happy you still have some hair. I'm gaining this increasingly polished spot on front from going "<slap> Oh No!!" a little too often. :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1093 To: JOHN SOUVESTRE Date: 12/07/93 11:23p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 04 12:46>, John Souvestre writes: JS>Everyone else who routed for that Net (the Zone Hubs and the JS>Region Hubs in that region) would also have to change their JS>routing, along with Boyd. Understand. So be it, next problem. It sure would be nice if we had some sort of program along the lines of Areafix to assign/deassign routing. Course that could take quite a bit of doing. Happy Holidays, D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1094 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/08/93 4:01a Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I get this FILEBONE.NA file that has info in it about different files > available.. I noted that PCBoard has a nice list of utilities and doors > but that we are to request this service.. I have no clue how to go > about requesting this but I do know that if we're getting Wildcat and PP> Read the footer in Filebone.na, John, the PCB* FDN are not yet on the PP> filebone although it has requested this status. Send PP> netmail to one of the listed filebone hubs and PP> request that it be placed on the filebone. Assuming PP> that the FDN head isn't some kind of control freak, PP> once on the filebone you'll likely see it coming over PP> the satellite sometime thereafter. Jens Mueller is the temp HQ's for PCB. We're working on getting it to John right this moment. Good 'ol Jens ain't no stinking control freak -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1095 To: ROBERT WATSON Date: 12/08/93 11:06p Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RW>Could someone please help me understand they're solution to the Duplicates RW>problem.. Is there a specific tosser or such that seems to be doing a good RW>job at eliminating duplicates? If so, which one(s) are you using? RW>Also a brief outline as to how you've set it up would certainly help me RW>alot... I am running GEcho as a tosser and have set the dupe file to it's max: 32766 entries. This sure made a difference... got an unbelievable number of dupes before... I figure that it took care of 95% of them. Unfortunately, with an entire backbone feed as with Planet Connect and a few other network feeds I may see from 38,000 to 48,000 messages processed in 2 days (and I'm sure the number isn't going to be getting any smaller). That means that it's possible that a message that comes through as a dupe may no longer be in the database even a day later! Hopefully the next version of GEcho will allow cranking up the dupe database size to a more viable number. I liked being able to have it set large enough to cover 7 days of traffic. -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: HECTOR MANDEL Number: 1096 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/07/93 9:12p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 07 03:24>, Mickey Ferguson of 1:116/205 writes: >> I totally agree, this TV stuff is only worth a DEL *.* >> and runs up our >> Satellite connect cost <g> I hope it isn't costing >> Planet Connect >> anything to obtain it. >> Regards, >> Hans MF> Mine go straight to >NUL as they come in....BUT they _DO_ serve a MF> useful function! They let you know you are betwixt the cycles of MF> the USEFUL stuff!.....Joe...are you listening? Yeah, I agree 100%. The TV stuff is useless to me now that the TVAGENT program looks for the dongle. I can't use it across my network and the TVAGENT program won't run on a monochrome system, which is what I have on the machine that does nothing all day long but pull in the satellite feed. There's no way I'm going to buy a vga and card just so I can run it. --- msgedsq 2.1a * Origin: Cloud Chamber BBS, LurkNET HUB 217-684-2081 (1:233/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 1097 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 12/08/93 10:12a Subj: NEWCOMER! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks Jerry for taking the time to explain your setup! JR> When the SAT system is booted it automatically runs PCUTIL CHECK4 then star JR>the SAT program. After the SAT gets it's data and when the system gets a sig JR>fron the SAT and drops to DOS I have it reboot the system with a program cal This is the piece of information I am missing. How often does the satellite send this signal for the SAT software to drop to DOS? JR> PS you milage may vary ! Of course! ;-) Thanks again! --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH SIPPY Number: 1098 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 12/08/93 11:50p Subj: areafix and Planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I was helping a friend (Ken Carpenter 1:14/608) set up Planet Connect last weekend. We were trying to figure a way to set up areafix (v1.3) and PC. What we wanted is to have the system he feeds be able to request whatever area is in fidonet.na & .no and have it immediately add the area. Without having to forward the request and wait for something to come into bad messages. Is there a way of doing this that we may have overlooked? I'm sure Boyd doesn't really want requests forwarded to him. And we have the bad message area set very small to dump out all the excess messages he isn't using to save space. Any help would be appreciated. Keith --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium, Mail from geostationary orbit. (1:283/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1099 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/08/93 10:27p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jerry! 07 Dec 93, Jerry Dunlap writes to Dennis Powers: >> I have written a utility that does dupe checking for all areas >> and will copy/move/erase dupes and new files to specified >> subdirectories. It also checks and logs unlisted (not in JD> Great. I wonder if we could start a new file echoe for this sort of thing JD> and have it sent over the bird? I figured I get it out through either Softdist or one of the Utilnet's (I think it's 2 that goes over the sat feed). It's basicly freeware with a request for a postcard <G>. Version 1 will just report Version 2 will generate File requests (that takes a bit more code <G>). I'll announce it when it's ready. The main thing that got me started was I needed a way to find out if I missed anything.... half way into the project I realized I needed to duplicate the concept of the PCUTIL to keep track so I figured is wasn't much more work to add the Copy/move stuff. -><-Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1100 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/08/93 8:01p Subj: File Echos Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Laz! In a message to All <12/04/93> Laz Gottli wrote: LG> Out of curiosity do we need to contact all the file bone distributors if LG> plan on carrying the files transmitted on our systems? LG> Or do we do it just out of common curtesy? LG> How is everyone else treating this? LG> Thanks I am processing them all into my database and when I get cramped for drive space I will delete everything first with 0 downloads, then if not enough deletes I will delete everything that has less than 10 downloads. Unless I see a need for the files later on that is. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Me, indecisive? I don't think I am, do you? --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1101 To: TIMOTHY WAGONER Date: 12/08/93 8:24p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Timothy! In a message to All <12/05/93> Timothy Wagoner wrote: TW> I am now set up for Planet Connect am am testing to see if the echomail TW> goes through. Got it here in Middle Tennessee. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Misspelled? Impossible. Error correcting modem! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1102 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/08/93 8:52p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to All <12/05/93> John Dodson wrote: JD> Hello All! JD> I finally found the G-4 satellite and began receiving data about 10 days JD> ago. I have a few questions! <g> JD> I have a dedicated machine receiving the satellite data, configured as a JD> Lantastic server. This works fine. I am looking for a way to automate JD> the processing of the data. I have tried running PCUTIL from a JD> workstation (which is my BBS) .. but cannot get it to work properly. JD> PCUTIL works fine if I take down the satellite software and run it from JD> the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with JD> incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! Thanks for your JD> help! Pcutil is not limited to the Satelite machine. What I did in my pcsky.bat was run pcutil next3 and goto restart. On another machine I copied the config file for pcutil and changed the drive letters to point to the server that has the satelite running. I use Front Door as my front end so I setup an event to toss the mail and process the .tic files. From the directory that contains my new pcutil config file I do a pcutil next1 which moves the first mail packet from the toss dir to my FD inbound and call my tosser. Upon finish of that toss I have a if exist statement that looks to the toss dir for the existance of anything starting with 0000????.*, if it is there it does a goto retoss and does the thing over and over till all mail is tossed. Then I have a file move, move h:\toss\*.* h:\fd\file all tics and compressed files are then processed with WCFF, a Wildcat file fawarder, I wrote myself a program, which takes all the fileareas in the filebone.na and assigned a dirve:\directory filearea# for wildcat and it reads each tic file for the area and writes my wcff.cfg for that day and tosses them. Now I also include all other areas which my system has so if a .tic comes in from a node it too is processed. I get home at 3:15 pm each day and all mail and .tics are processed. I have been connected to PC for 5-6 weeks now and look farward to Internet to alter thinga again. Joe PS if you want more info just let me know. I don't profess to know the answere but will help where possible. * WCE 1.10/2107 * Never take a beer to a job interview. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 1103 To: JOHN MORANO Date: 12/08/93 6:52p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tracy Mickley, in a message to John Morano, you wrote: TM> Hi John, is there a way I can manually edit out any TM> previously 'moved' files from the dupe checker index file to TM> have the next pass of pcutil allow certain files to be moved TM> rather than deleted? John, In the message above, Tracy suggests something which I too would really like to see... Just adding one more voice to the idea. :-) John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1104 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 12/08/93 9:42p Subj: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Rudolf In a message to Boyd Goodin <12/06/93> Rudolf Rothemund wrote: RR> Fredmail (I run a Wildcat BBS)? Do I even need to run it since I run a I have WCUUCP wonder if that would work? RR> Once we get those, we'll write some programs to pull the mail from RR> the computers, check to see if it is all there (TIC'S and files), and RR> then toss them as they come in. As it is now, a programmer named Mark RR> Gibson has written a program called PCHECK, which checks all the files RR> that come in off the satellite in the holding directory to the UPLD.LST RR> that you send. If all the files are present, it exits to a certain RR> errorlevel which I have, among other things, set to run PCUTIL, toss the RR> mail and run TIC. If the mail is not all present (and this happens a RR> lot, sorry!), then the errorlevel that is returned is set to restart up RR> PTCCMAIN and it runs another cycle. It usually only takes two cycles to RR> get the mail, but the program can be set to attempt so many cycles so RR> that our HUB isn't CONSTANTLY tied up getting PC mail. What do you think about letting me FREQ that PCCHECK utility for use on our nets HUB (my system..) It would save us a LOT of time and trouble..? * WCE 1.10/2008 * Good, Bad, I'm the guy with the gun. (ARMY OF DARKNESS) --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1105 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/08/93 9:50p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Dennis In a message to Jerry Dunlap <12/06/93> Dennis Powers wrote: DP> I have written a utility that does dupe checking for all areas and will DP> copy/move/erase dupes and new files to specified subdirectories. It also DP> and logs unlisted (not in Upld.lst file) files and will Copy/move/ or era DP> them. It also keep track of files missed and exits with an errorlevel ba DP> the results of the run. It is in alpha testing right now but I will make DP> available when it is ready. Count me in on your distribution of this one.. Need any help with the Alpha testing? * WCE 1.10/2008 * Tagline not found...Hitting the red bu@$(@$#.... --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF WARD Number: 1106 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/08/93 6:55p Subj: Rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >-> Any idea when RIME will start feeding? > Bonnie is waiting for her PC satellite dish to begin testing, > but apparently it's backordered. Oh well, BO's are life. I've got fellows here who are already in RIME wanting to know when the feed will start. all I tell them is sometime in the future (real precise date!) Anyhow, thanks for the info. Later! --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: * Futura BBS - Planet Connected In NC! (704)739-0013 * (1:379/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Number: 1107 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/08/93 12:00p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD>I have a dedicated machine receiving the satellite data, configured JD>as a Lantastic server. This works fine. I am looking for a way to JD>automate the processing of the data. I have tried running PCUTIL JD>from a workstation (which is my BBS) .. but cannot get it to work JD>properly. PCUTIL works fine if I take down the satellite software and JD>run it from the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of JD>dealing with incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! JD>Thanks for your help! Hi John. My setup is similar to yours, I have one dedicated machine on my Lantastic lan for the satellite feed. I run PCUTIL on that same dedicated machine, then my batch file copies whatever files are left to my bbs machine, to its inbound directory. I then send a semaphore file to my bbs machine to tell it to exit to process the mail/tics. This works very well. The trick is in using semaphore files. If you have any more questions I will be glad to help. ___ * CmpQwk #UNREG * UNREGISTERED EVALUATION COPY --- GEcho/RA 2.01 * Origin: Metro Data Group BBS HST/DS 21.6 Miami, Fl 305-378-2571 (1:135/94) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1108 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/08/93 9:47p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 06 01:11>, Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Yep. By the way, whats the problem with bink that you cant BG>connect with D'bridge on the ISDN line? Ok, here's the scam. Perhaps Jerry Dunlap might also add some comments as well. I do know that I have to shut down to 56k instead of 64k to reach you. About 75% of the time, this is what I get when I try to connect. 08 Dec 21:03:12 BINK Processing node 1:3615/50 -- Planet Systems 08 Dec 21:03:12 BINK Dialing 1-615-623-4816 08 Dec 21:03:26 BINK Connect 38400 08 Dec 21:03:28 BINK Modem protocol negotiation filtered 08 Dec 21:03:46 BINK Intro: ** **EMSI_REQA77E** ** Network mail only**TILL 3AM**<BBS 615-6> 08 Dec 21:04:01 BINK Timeout 08 Dec 21:04:01 BINK No Send - Remote Hung Up 08 Dec 21:04:02 BINK Received: 0/0 Sent: 0/0 Total: 0/0 CPS: 0 08 Dec 21:04:02 BINK Seconds: 34 Tariff: 35 Fee: 35 System: 1:3615/50 It sends the EMSI handshake packet, then sits waiting for the reply packet and never gets it. When I do get it, it's sluggish as hell and I get all kinds of wierd EMSI stuff. Notice the time delay after Connect until handshaking. There's a full 10 seconds of dead air. 08 Dec 21:04:42 BINK Processing node 1:3615/50 -- Planet Systems 08 Dec 21:04:42 BINK Dialing 1-615-623-4816 08 Dec 21:04:55 BINK Connect 38400 08 Dec 21:05:02 BINK Intro: D'Bridge EMAIL System 1.54/004770... Copyright 1987-1993 by Chris In 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Unknown EMSI Addon: XMIT: {* * * * *} 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Unknown EMSI Addon: SDC: {[EF*!!!*!!!][E*`SE-][+%SEST][*Z[4jCAD]} 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Unknown EMSI Addon: UTC: {*`SE-=%,k!,lEST} 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Aka: 95:95/50 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Remote Uses D'Bridge 1.54/004770 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK SysOp: Boyd Goodin from Newport Tennessee 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Phone: 1-615-623-8203 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Flags: HST,CM,XX,V42.BIS 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Password-protected session 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Session method: ZedZap 08 Dec 21:05:13 BINK Nothing to send to 95:95/50 08 Dec 21:05:18 BINK End of WaZOO/EMSI Session 08 Dec 21:05:18 BINK Received: 0/0 Sent: 0/0 Total: 0/0 CPS: 0 08 Dec 21:05:18 BINK Seconds: 23 Tariff: 35 Fee: 35 System: 1:3615/50 I tried it without EMSI and simply got a dropped carrier as in the first example, so it's not just EMSI. And this same thing happened with ClassAxe which didn't even support EMSI. I did try a file request for FILES as well to see what would happen. * 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK Remote Uses D'Bridge 1.54/004770 : 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK SysOp: Boyd Goodin from Newport Tennessee 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK Phone: 1-615-623-8203 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK Flags: HST,CM,XX,V42.BIS * 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK Password-protected session 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK Created flagfile K:\Bbs\Outbound.05f\005f0032.BSY : 08 Dec 21:06:47 BINK Session method: ZedZap : 08 Dec 21:06:48 BINK Outbound file requests + 08 Dec 21:06:55 BINK CPS: 1 (7 bytes) Efficiency: 0% + 08 Dec 21:06:55 BINK Sent-Z/32 K:\Bbs\Outbound\0e1f0032.REQ ! 08 Dec 21:07:28 BINK Zmodem Init Problem Lost Carrier * 08 Dec 21:07:28 BINK End of WaZOO/EMSI Session 08 Dec 21:07:28 BINK Received: 0/0 Sent: 1/7 Total: 1/7 CPS: 1 * 08 Dec 21:07:28 BINK Seconds: 69 Tariff: 35 Fee: 70 System: 1:3615/50 It just hung up after about 30 seconds. I'd suggest you check your logs for the same time period and see what's going on from that end. Let me know what I can do. Thanks D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1109 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/08/93 4:55p Subj: NEWCOMER! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with > incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! Thanks for John, You can F'Req ALLBATS.ARC from here for copies of nearly all my batch files, including the ones from the P.C. machine. To answer your specific question, I let the PC software exit when it receives that marker file, run PCUTIL, do a couple of other things, defrag, then go back online with the bird. Takes just a minute or 2 if nothing new arrived, otherwise it's maybe 5 minutes or so. --- FLAME v1.00/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1110 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/08/93 3:11p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Not totally ...it has begin to quiver and show signs of new > life. <snicker> I know that feeling, Terry, and I wish you luck! --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1111 To: ROBERT WATSON Date: 12/08/93 3:20p Subj: Searchlight & Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Are there any other Searchlight BBS Software sysops around out there, > who are connected to PC or such that would like to possibly trade notes > with me. Former Searchlight SysOp here, Robert, and boy are you gonna have fun. <g> Needless to say, you'll have to toss all those messages to *.MSG and then toss them into SLBBS. Since you're running SLMAIL 3.0, I'd turn off the message threading thingy (can't recall the command line parameter for it anymore) to speed things up somewhat. I used to keep 1,000 in about 75% of the echo areas (GENEALOGY was an exception to this since it's daily message volume is so high so I kept 1500 of those). You'll need to pack/purge often, of course, and the way that I handled that was by running a pack on the message bases on alternate days. The first day only packed the message base if the first message number was greater than 1000. The 2nd day packed a message base only if the 1st message number was greater than 500, and the 3rd day packed them only if the 1st message number was greater than 250. Cuts down on the processing time during maintenance and keeps things reasonably tidy. Don't forget to defrag your mail processing drive often because it will get fragmented pretty quickly under these conditions. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 1112 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/07/93 6:13p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Do you think Rime admin is in here? <g> Don't know John. I'm here via Fido. -> Ah go ahead and spring for it! (Get the 3 ft Ku! ;-) ) Bob Hunter is getting the 3 ft Ku and he's 35 miles south of me. If it works out for him with our weather then that's the way I'll go, if he runs into problems then we'll go with a C-Band system. I didn't see anything in P_C's info about a 4 foot Ku dish. Do you know if they have one or just a 2 foot and 3 foot? I guess I should ask Boyd. --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 6 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK MORRIS Number: 1113 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/09/93 9:00a Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hopefully the next version of GEcho will allow cranking up the dupe > database size to a more viable number. I liked being able to have it > set large enough to cover 7 days of traffic. I've been asking van.der.land for that for two years now and he's ignored every request... this comes from one who moved mail on a region level for 18 months... Rick --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Connection 4.6 Gig On-line (513) 393-0075 (1:2350/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1114 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/09/93 9:52p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: DO> I'd suggest you check your logs for the same time period and DO> see what's going on from that end. BinkleyTerm has known problems connecting with D'Bridge...It looks like that's what happening here... Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 1115 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 10:18p Subj: Re: is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Howdy What are the guidelines for a network to be transmitted via the bird? I have a small network here with about 30 boards, that we started in 1988. Thanks in advance Mike --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WALTON Number: 1116 To: ROBERT WATSON Date: 12/08/93 10:24p Subj: Re: Searchlight & Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Are there any other Searchlight BBS Software sysops around out there, who > are connected to PC or such that would like to possibly trade notes with > me. > I'm running under Searchlight, and would like to exchange hints and tips > which might benefit both of us.. yes robert I run SL Bill --- DB 1.54/003857 * Origin: Atlantic Access (1:255/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS CHILDS Number: 1117 To: ALL Date: 12/07/93 12:27a Subj: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Can anyone gice me any ballpark prices on how much it would cost to get the hardware, software, and the service to run planet connect? --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Files R Us BBs 615-226-4218 (1:116/85) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1118 To: CHRIS CHILDS Date: 12/08/93 8:12a Subj: Planet Connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CC->Can anyone gice me any ballpark prices on how much it would cost to get the CC->hardware, software, and the service to run planet connect? Probably just about anyone on this echo can do that Chris. <G> Ballpark would depend on what you already have, thus what you would have to buy. If you have everything but the satellite data receiver & software, you are looking at about $300. If you also need a dish, you are looking at about $500-$800 depending on what type & size dish you get. If you don't have a computer to dedicate to it, you'll one of those also. The service costs $30 per month if you don't hub it, or $40 per month if you do. Mickey * OLX 2.1 * *********For FREE Software support, just dial 1-900-976- --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives (615)-952-2254 V32b Node 1 (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1119 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/08/93 6:06p Subj: Fancy Schnancy Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! Those systems are at it again...... 3831/100, 229/15 and 271/27 routing two of these netmail 'round and 'round the atmosphere........ Can they be stopped ============================================================================= * Forwarded by Ervin Jay (1:153/767) * Area : NET.FID (NetMail FidoNet: FIDO) * To : l * Subj : ┌ñ}êXε`ôóâ ============================================================================= @INTL 1:3615/51 1:3615/50 > αA@â╟Γ⌠├3╥Ç> @Via FrontDoor 1:271/270@fidonet, Nov 30 1993 at 1:33 @Via QM 1:3615/50, Tue Nov 30 01:48 EDT (v1.26/a49) @Via QM 1:3821/100, Tue Nov 30 16:06 (v1.31) @Via QM 1:3615/50, Wed Dec 01 01:40 EDT (v1.26/a49) @Via QM 1:3821/100, Wed Dec 01 16:04 (v1.31) @Via QM 1:3615/50, Thu Dec 02 02:24 EDT (v1.26/a49) @Via FidoPcb v1.5 beta-'e' 1:229/15.0, 02 Dec 93 at 18:15 @Via GEcho 1:229/15, Dec 5 1993 at 1:13 @Via QM 1:3615/50, Sun Dec 05 04:45 EDT (v1.26/b01) @Via FidoPcb v1.5 beta-'e' 1:229/15.0, 05 Dec 93 at 12:16 @Via GEcho 1:229/15, Dec 5 1993 at 13:18 @Via QM 1:3615/50, Mon Dec 06 05:22 EDT (v1.26/b01) @Via FrontDoor 1:271/270@fidonet, Dec 8 1993 at 1:31 @Via QM 1:3615/50, Wed Dec 08 01:52 EDT (v1.26/b01) @Via MsgTrack 1:153/767, Wed Dec 08 1993 at 19:51 UTC ============================================================================= Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE REED Number: 1120 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/06/93 6:38p Subj: GMD MESSAGES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Terry! Friday December 03 1993 21:41, Terry Blount wrote to MARTIN BELCKE: TB> This conference is used for "conducting business" as well as the TB> support conference for Us Robotics, WordPerfect, Desqview, and TB> Windows has at least four (4) conferences with a _TON_ of TB> messages! NOT to mention at least 20 conferences that promote TB> commercial BBS programs ...you mean to tell me that you are TB> willing to carry all that echo mail containing promotions and TB> update info, pricing, customer support, etc... but if a routed TB> netmail message needs to pass through your system you would be TB> _disturb_ if it contained info that would make a customer happy? TB> I would certainly be happy to allow your routed netmail to pass TB> through my system _ESPECIALLY_ if I thought it would benefit you TB> emotionally, spiritually _OR_ financially. That's not the point. Read Policy 4. If my CD-ROM pubishing firm can't use routed netmail, you can't either. ;-) Later, Dave ... Clinton Cruise Lines - Taking America for a Ride! --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121+/46DK3 * Origin: The CrossRoads BBS * Ephrata WA * (509)246-0548 (1:344/79) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 1121 To: ALL Date: 12/06/93 7:40p Subj: Networks currently offere Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No *@SUBJECT:Networks currently offered N Can anyone tell me what networks are currently being transferred via the dish? I am trying to get all my software and some of the config stuff going so that I am ready when the dish arrives. I have Intelec, PEN, FidoNet already. I am going to get with the admins for the others to see what is needed. I also need to upgrade my FidoPCB key to ulimited instead of the 256 area one and upgrade RoseMail to the satellite option. What I would like to get is a list of the nets so that I can go get their information packs and start setting up their conferences and do any other things needed to run their net if I choose to run it. I guess it would be helpful also to know what distribution networks are hooked in so I can get my .TIC processor ready. Thanks Tim Fierro - Future Planet Connect Customer --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f83/a] * Origin: TRE! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 1122 To: ALL Date: 12/06/93 8:18p Subj: I forgot this also....<g> Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No About how much disk space is going to be needed to handle the incoming mail? Right now I purge messages 10 days old. Assuming something of a purge ever xx days, how much disk space to hold the mail. Files are a different breed and I already have a solution for those, I only now need to calculate the disk space for mail and start making room to place the mail. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f83/a] * Origin: TRE! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RF TOLLI Number: 1123 To: ALL Date: 12/07/93 11:17p Subj: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Blind Hog Saloon BBS in NW FL is pleased to be carrying this echo. --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RF TOLLI Number: 1124 To: ALL Date: 12/09/93 12:52a Subj: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Blind Hog Saloon BBS in NW FL is pleased to be carrying this echo. --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1125 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/10/93 2:32a Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well it does try but the thing comes back and tells me that the > screen is too large and bombs out. Any other rippers out there > that can do it please fill me in. Maybe someone will write a conversion to get it full blown. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1126 To: DALLAS HINTON Date: 12/10/93 2:32a Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> die my hair back to its original color. > :-)) > Take it from me -- it doesn't work! :-)) Well I got a few good years in me yet. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1127 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/10/93 2:33a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You also get them from John as he has a Send line for you.... Well I have yet to see a reouted messages to me come thru John's system to me. I pick all my routed mail up from my hub. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1128 To: BASIL GROMAN Date: 12/10/93 2:34a Subj: Re: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > At this particular point in time, those listings are useless to me. So > make this another vote for an alternative form of copy protection for the > TV agent. We are. Did you see my message in the PCSITES? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1129 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/10/93 2:35a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Persistent, aren't they!! :)! > Fred Yes! I think they all got a bit of maritimers blood in them. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1130 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/10/93 2:36a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Least you still have some!!! 33 and a full set of hair. Isn't life grand? ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1131 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/10/93 2:36a Subj: Re: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Division by zero in line 0 of module PCUTL at address 1514:0046. Thats a John Morano question. Hey John can you help him out? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1132 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/10/93 2:41a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> forwarded to John I will be deleting it. > Be careful Boyd.....As you know, there are those that are not happy about > the Planet Connect service and look for any excuse to raise a ruckus..... Not to worry. I got that fixed now. Everything goes to John. I have my hub complaining now because a system routed 700+ MsgTrack messages to my system thru standard means and he did not like it too much. > To delete undeliverable netmail is very much against policy and could > easily put your node number in the middle of a policy complaint.....If > you agree to route it then you also agree to return it if you cant. I know. But like I said I am under no obligation to anyone to route their netmail. I said I will try this and see. Seems I got the routing down pat now thanks to one of our users. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1133 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/10/93 2:42a Subj: Re: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Thanks much, Boyd, hopefully I'm not the only one who will thank you > for > it. :) You are much welcome. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1134 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/10/93 2:43a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Drats, I thought I deleted 3615/50 from that echo distribution. ;D Well I dont mind. With me being single I have to sprouce up my 3 mintutes of free time a day. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1135 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/10/93 2:46a Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> May have to go to that. > You're certainly welcome, Boyd, as long as you're not in the line to > throw > the bride and/or groom into the lake following the nuptials. <G> Yey and the next thing I know I would come back and the whole system will be down. Cant have that now. >> Heck the boss wont even let me have a day off let alone go to > Texas! > Beg... tell him it's good PR. Weeeeeellll..... maybe! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1136 To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 12/10/93 2:46a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> Almost as good as the Playboy channel... > Probably better...:-) Got that right! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1137 To: BRIAN HESS Date: 12/10/93 2:48a Subj: Re: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Boyd! > Area ZYXELROM 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZYXEL Firmware > Area ZYXTEXT 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZyXEL Text Files > Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party Tools > ; Info File: ZYXELNET.* > ; North America ZyXBONE HQ: Patrick Martin 1:102/825 > ; Suggested Conf: ZYXEL (backbone) > is the above coming over the dish? If not what can be done to get it on > the dish? > I can put a good word in for you if can tell me the requirements you need > filled.. ( I am the ZyXELNET region 27 RC & REC) I know the conference is going but dont know about the files. I have almost everything as pass thru and dont see whats going thru much. My tic cfg file has everything in it so it is hard to tell. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1138 To: RICK ROSINSKI Date: 12/10/93 2:48a Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What about messages from echoes in the FIDONET.NO file? We are getting > those echoes via the satellite. Yes it is. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1139 To: TOM WEISS Date: 12/10/93 2:49a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > BG> Who's Veger? > You're probably not a Star Trek Fan. It was supposedly one of the first > unmanned deep space probes sent out to learn and adapt. It's original > name was Voyageur. However, it's name got mutilated in a space accident. Ok now I remember. i am a trek fan but my memory is somewhere out there with it. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1140 To: ROBERT WATSON Date: 12/09/93 10:45p Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Robert! In a message to All <12/06/93> Robert Watson wrote: RW> Could someone please help me understand they're solution to the Duplicate RW> problem.. Is there a specific tosser or such that seems to be doing a goo RW> job at eliminating duplicates? If so, which one(s) are you using? RW> Also a brief outline as to how you've set it up would certainly help me RW> alot... I use DUPMSG on my Wildcat System, which reminds me, I got to regester it. Works super. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * PUT THE COMPUTER DOWN, HONEY..I'm quitting NOW! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1141 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 12/09/93 3:48p Subj: NEWCOMER! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I have a 4 computer setup here, as I am NEC for the NET and here is Leave up to a consultant to use 4 computers for a 2 computer job. <snicker> Hi Jerry! I'd like to get a copy of allfix and whack on it. Can I FREQ it from you? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JOHNSON Number: 1142 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/09/93 11:58a Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim, * In a message originally to Robert Watson, Tim Brown said: > RW>Could someone please help me understand they're solution to the > Duplicates > RW>problem.. Is there a specific tosser or such that seems to be doing a > good > RW>job at eliminating duplicates? If so, which one(s) are you using? > RW>Also a brief outline as to how you've set it up would certainly help me > RW>alot... > I am running GEcho as a tosser and have set the dupe file to > it's max: > 32766 entries. This sure made a difference... got an > unbelievable > number of dupes before... I figure that it took care of 95% > of them. > Unfortunately, with an entire backbone feed as with Planet > Connect and a > few other network feeds I may see from 38,000 to 48,000 > messages > processed in 2 days (and I'm sure the number isn't going to > be getting > any smaller). That means that it's possible that a message > that comes > through as a dupe may no longer be in the database even a day > later! > Hopefully the next version of GEcho will allow cranking up > the dupe > database size to a more viable number. I liked being able to > have it > set large enough to cover 7 days of traffic. So far the number is not increased, look at tear line... Another valuable thing is to also enable the seen-by checking, it will catch the 5% you missing now:) John --- GEcho 1.02/beta+ * Origin: Panther BBS *Wichita Ks* (1:291/11) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE PEACE Number: 1143 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/08/93 11:48a Subj: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Weeeelllllll now I think the format will be in the bag format (like >Pagesat's) that a lot of uucp gateway programs have made changes for. Still <sigh> Sorry to hear that. Another new "standard" forcing us to choose modified software or be left out. I'm sure there are good reasons, both technical and market, for using .Bag files. And my software loves them. I'm just enjoying whining today. ;-) --- FLAME v1.0/b * Origin: Pennsylvania Online! 8+ gigs [717-657-8699] (1:270/101) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1144 To: JEFF WARD Date: 12/09/93 10:39p Subj: Re: RIME Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hi Boyd! > Any idea on when RIME will start feeding? Thanks! Hopefully soon! Just waiting on Bonnie. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1145 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/09/93 10:43p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Just tell him it's the Canadian spelling :-)). Tried that. I think he is starting to catch on to my canadien ways. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1146 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/09/93 10:34p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: DO> It wasn't Bink, it was ClassAxe. I've since gotten a new DO> version of Bink and I'll try it out in the next day or so to DO> make sure all works. Will advise. If you are talking about this latest version that came over the bird: BDOS_258 ZIP 297990 12-01-93 11:15p you may be interested in the docs: This is TEST SOFTWARE. You are NOT AUTHORIZED to pass this software on to ANYONE without explicit permission granted by Vince Perriello, Bob Hartman or Alan Bryant. The penalties for such transgressions are very severe: we will get pissed off and send you a copy of someone else's software to run (whichever one happens to REALLY scare you most). You have been warned. I was a little stunned that software bearing such a warning would be distributed via the Filebone? --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLETCH BOWLING Number: 1147 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/08/93 8:39p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John ! In a message to All <12/05/93> John Dodson wrote: JD> Hello All! JD> I finally found the G-4 satellite and began receiving data about 10 days JD> ago. I have a few questions! <g> JD> I have a dedicated machine receiving the satellite data, configured as a JD> Lantastic server. This works fine. I am looking for a way to automate JD> the processing of the data. I have tried running PCUTIL from a JD> workstation (which is my BBS) .. but cannot get it to work properly. JD> PCUTIL works fine if I take down the satellite software and run it from JD> the server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with JD> incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! Thanks for your JD> help! execute it from another workstation but have it configured to look at your sat server. I have been doing it for some time now with no problems whatso ever .. ttl,Fletch JD> --- QScan v1.02b JD> * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/1 * WCE 1.10/2185 * --- WM v3.10/91-0230 * Origin: TDC! 5.5gigs&14.4*2 Mobile,Al (1:3625/465) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE MEADORS Number: 1148 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/09/93 7:38a Subj: Planet Connect Info. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just curious to know how your efforts are progressing in getting your promotional video duplicated and distributed to those - like myself - who have asked for information about Planet Connect. Warmest Regards, Joe FidoNet: 1:160/230 BizyNet: 70:1/80 Internet: Joe.Meadors@f230.n160.z1.fidonet.org --- GoldED 2.42.G1125+ * Origin: ?ksa uoy od yhW .enif s'gnihtyrevE (1:160/230) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 1149 To: BOB FRADY Date: 12/09/93 7:03a Subj: New Guy Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I just wanted to so howdy. I'm the new guy on the block here. Just > finished getting my system switched over. So far I'm very pleased Hey Bob! You mean you didn't like paying those high LD charges to get your mail from us? <BIG GRIN> Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ED MARQUIS Number: 1150 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/09/93 7:08a Subj: Tvagent Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I still maintain, the TV listing stuff serves a useful > function...it shows that you are between cycles of the stuff you can use. <G> I always use the TV listings arrival as a good time to take down the program to see what's new in my "personal" directory. In other words they are quite useless here as well. <g> Ed --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Transporter Room: 8 lines 13gig! 20 CD's 704/567-9513 (1:379/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 1151 To: JOHN BIERRIE Date: 12/09/93 6:50p Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB> In the message above, Tracy suggests something which I JB> too would really like to see... Just adding one more voice JB> to the idea. :-) Edit the CHECK.IDX file with any editor.... ;-) John...... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL GROWNEY Number: 1152 To: ALL Date: 12/09/93 7:28p Subj: Internet/where? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No How and where can I log on to Internet? How much does it cost? Is it availiable in the Sacramento, CA area? What can I do on Internet? Why do dogs like to lick my toes? OPPS! For get that last question! Thanks! ... **** KD6SRC **** 147.195+ or 145.250- **** Sacramento, CA. **** --- Blue Wave/Max v2.12 [NR] * Origin: DATAMAZE (1:203/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RALPH LOBIANCO Number: 1153 To: TIM FIERRO Date: 12/10/93 12:59p Subj: I forgot this also....<g> Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> About how much disk space is going to be needed to handle the -> incoming mail? Right now I purge messages 10 days old. Assuming -> something of a purge ever xx days, how much disk space to hold -> the mail. Files are a different breed and I already have a solution -> for those, I only now need to calculate the disk space for mail and -> start making room to place the mail. -> --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f83/a] Im purging at 10 days and Im useing over 250 Meg right now.. I would say 300 Meg for all the fido confereces would be safe.. Ralph --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: The STUDIO - Over 70,000 files, 8 Gigabytes (813)862-8850 (1:3619/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1154 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 12/09/93 4:14p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Bob Hunter is getting the 3 ft Ku and he's 35 miles south of me. If it > works out for him with our weather then that's the way I'll go, if he > runs into problems then we'll go with a C-Band system. In the for what it's worth department, Mark, we've had some horrendous storms down here in North Lousyana (that's Louisiana for the uninformed) since we set up our KU band dish and we've had no loss of data due to any of them so far. It's been a very reliable setup for us down here despite the bad weather. Heck, it's raining again down here now, but not heavily. Can't wait to see how it'll do in snow. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1155 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/09/93 4:22p Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Jens Mueller is the temp HQ's for PCB. We're working on getting it to > John right this moment. Good 'ol Jens ain't no stinking control freak Yep, saw your message re: this in FILE_MOVERS, Jim. I was debating on whether or not to copy the original message there but you beat me to it. <g> --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 1156 To: STEVE PERLO Date: 12/10/93 4:10a Subj: Tic'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SP>RR> that our HUB isn't CONSTANTLY tied up getting PC mail. SP>What do you think about letting me FREQ that PCCHECK utility for use on SP>our nets HUB (my system..) It would save us a LOT of time and trouble..? Ola' Steve. Better idea! Let's persuade Mark Gibson or Rudolf Rothemund to hatch PCHECK out in Utilnet2. Then we can ALL get it. --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1157 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/10/93 2:29p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: > BG> forwarded to John I will be deleting it. BG> > Be careful Boyd.....As you know, there are those that are not happy about > the Planet Connect service and look for any excuse to raise a ruckus..... BG> BG> Not to worry. I got that fixed now. Everything goes to BG> John. I have my hub complaining now because a system routed BG> 700+ MsgTrack messages to my system thru standard means and BG> he did not like it too much. Well dont worry everyone else is going to bitch too.....You just sent about 50 corrupted and grundged message reports thru to everyone today.....:) > To delete undeliverable netmail is very much against policy and could > easily put your node number in the middle of a policy complaint.....If > you agree to route it then you also agree to return it if you cant. BG> BG> I know. But like I said I am under no obligation to BG> anyone to route their netmail. Agreed.....Until you state that you will.....at that point you obligate yourself to return those that are undeliverable. greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1158 To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 12/10/93 12:23p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 09 21:52>, Sean Peoples writes: SP>BinkleyTerm has known problems connecting with D'Bridge...It SP>looks like that's what happening here... Really? One of my downlink hubs is using d'Bridge and I have no problem with him. As well as several other systems locally using d'Bridge with no problem. Strange. I'll accept what you say, wonder if it's just certain versions or what? Also could be exagerated by the ISDN speed. Oh well..... D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1159 To: ALL Date: 12/10/93 9:46p Subj: Is anyone seeing this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No help!!!!! --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1160 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 12/10/93 4:36p Subj: .qwk packets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thomas Beal wrote in a message to All: TB> Does anyone out there have a .qwk packet to Hudson or JAM TB> message base converter? Someone told me that a program TB> called Fred Gate works? I'm running Remote Access 2.01 Pro TB> 10. Thanks. fredgate doesn't do that, It converts usenet stuff to *.pkt files. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FOXY FERGUSON Number: 1161 To: RF TOLLI Date: 12/11/93 2:59a Subj: Is This Getting Out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RT>I hate FD!!! Let's see if this makes it out to TN- if it does, We RT>are finally connected to Planet Connect. Yep, ya made it to the bird. Welcome! --- FMail 0.94 * Origin: Foxy's Point Planet Connected! (1:116/210.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 1162 To: MICHAEL GROWNEY Date: 12/10/93 2:51p Subj: Internet/where? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> How and where can I log on to Internet? -> How much does it cost? -> Is it availiable in the Sacramento, CA area? -> What can I do on Internet? -> Why do dogs like to lick my toes? -> OPPS! For get that last question! Best source of answers is the Fido INTERNET echo (areafix it today). There are numerous sources for linking up. Prices seem to run $20+ per month. Proces have been dropping. Sources are repeatly listing the the Fido INTERNET echo. Yes, Sacramento's not a problem. --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 1163 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/10/93 5:20p Subj: grunged messages... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, I don't know if it's just me here, but we've been getting a number of these grunged NetMail messages over the past week or so. For the most part they look like the following: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date : Nov 19 '93, 23:43 Pvt From : 1:3615/50.0 To : l 1:3615/51.0 Subj : ┌ñ }êXε `ôóâ ────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────────NFnN$9$9á£/(Fido) Planet Connect C:\62.TXT e coming across and being tossed into my NetMail area. Just wondering... John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOSH HEIZMAN Number: 1164 To: ALL Date: 12/10/93 8:52p Subj: FastEcho and QWK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Two Questions: A) Does anyone with a PC Satellite (which I would think would just about be all of you <smile>) run FastEcho?? B) While I'm here, does anyone have a QWK <=> PKT converter?? Thanks- Josh Heizman Co-SysOp File Shop --- * Origin: The File Shop BBS - 40 Gigs Online (816) 587-3311 (1:280/316) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BASIL GROMAN Number: 1165 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/10/93 9:13p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > At this particular point in time, those listings are useless to me. So > > make this another vote for an alternative form of copy protection for the > > TV agent. > > We are. Did you see my message in the PCSITES? Yes I did. Am looking forward to browsing the listings. Thanks, Basil --- * Origin: GSICS Online (417)334-3885 -=16.8HST/v32bis=- (1:284/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB FRADY Number: 1166 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/10/93 11:31p Subj: New Guy Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > I just wanted to so howdy. I'm the new guy on the block here. Just -> > finished getting my system switched over. So far I'm very pleased -> -> Hey Bob! You mean you didn't like paying those high LD charges to ge -> your mail from us? <BIG GRIN> -> -> Ed I thought I saw you floating around here. I've been fighting network problems the last couple of days, but I'm getting more echomail than I ever beleived possible. Just put in a new fileserver with 2gigs to handle everything. But I'm really enjoying the satellite downlink. But I couldn't complain about the service from you though. Its just Southern Bell <G>. Bob --- WM v3.10/93-0191 * Origin: High Tech Center BBS: NC 16.8K USR/DS (1:379/607) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1167 To: GARY CHAMBERS Date: 12/04/93 9:08a Subj: Assumption? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Gary! 01 Dec 93 14:22, Gary Chambers wrote to All: GC> Is it safe to assume that if this message is received by someone else, GC> that my net's echomail is being sent properly? A reply would be nice... GC> Thank you, GC> GeeCee/2 GC> -+- 80486DX2-66 & OS/2 GC> + Origin: Mystic Seaport Inn OiS/2 - ZyXEL - (804)497-2530 (1:275/37) How do you like your ZyXEL modem? I love mine..... Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1168 To: DENNIS POWERS Date: 12/10/93 11:14a Subj: PCUTIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > >> I have written a utility that does dupe checking for all areas > >> and will copy/move/erase dupes and new files to specified > >> subdirectories. It also checks and logs unlisted (not in > > JD> Great. I wonder if we could start a new file echoe for this sort of > thing > JD> and have it sent over the bird? > > I figured I get it out through either Softdist or one of the > Utilnet's (I think it's 2 that goes over the sat feed). It's Let us know the filename and we can freq it from you in the meantime. Keep up the positive attitude. --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1169 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/10/93 11:15a Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Hello Timothy! > > In a message to All <12/05/93> Timothy Wagoner wrote: > > TW> I am now set up for Planet Connect am am testing to see if the > echomailTW> goes through. > > Got it here in Middle Tennessee. > Joe Hey, I'm in middle Tn. YOu are in lower-middle Tn. <g> --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1170 To: BRIAN HESS Date: 12/09/93 9:57p Subj: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BH> Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party Tools BH> ; Info File: ZYXELNET.* BH> ; North America ZyXBONE HQ: Patrick Martin 1:102/825 BH> ; Suggested Conf: ZYXEL (backbone) BH> is the above coming over the dish? If not what can be BH> done to get it on the dish? They should be coming over the dish...... --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRANK SALERNO Number: 1171 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/10/93 6:36p Subj: Re: rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Any idea on when RIME will start feeding? Thanks! BG Hopefully soon! Just waiting on Bonnie. ....Boyd Please convince her to use your service. We are a RIME BBS and it would be great to pull in the RIME echoes via satellite. I think the problem is that she has too many options presented to her at the moment and doesn't know which one to choose. * 1st 1.10 #310s * Pay no attention to the man behind the curtain... --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1172 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 12/11/93 1:36p Subj: Re: Is This Getting Out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Foxy Ferguson to Rf Tolli <=- FF> Yep, ya made it to the bird. Welcome! Haleleulah!! Grin- this is all sorta overwelming for a country boy! Thanks for the welcome- I'm happy to BE here, finally! -RFT- AKA "Troll" ... Running a BBS is like nailing Jello to a tree. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1173 To: ALL Date: 12/11/93 1:48p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! I was just wondering what BBS software some of you are using with PC. With the coming of Usenet, among other things, I want to hear your suggestions on what is good for the users. I want to offer all the areas as non-passthru and also want to allow downloading via QWK. What mail door will handle all the newsgroups and Fido backbone while QUICKLY scanning the confs. Also, what tosser will import these areas QUICKLY into the BBS. So far, I see that Maximus is best for this, but is there anything else I might try before opening my BBS to the public? Thanks in advance for any suggestions and comments. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 1174 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/10/93 11:12a Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thanks to ALL of you who responded with some vewry helpful suggestions on how best to automate a PC setup! --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN DODSON Number: 1175 To: MARK ADKINS Date: 12/10/93 11:12a Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No MA>I didn't see anything in P_C's info about a 4 foot Ku dish. Do you know if t MA>have one or just a 2 foot and 3 foot? I guess I should ask Boyd. I saw a 4 ft Ku in the info file for the Canadian group .. so I'm sure you can get a 4 ft Ku dish. --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: * La Cantina BBS * El Paso 915-532-0332 v.32bis/DS 4G (1:381/123) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1176 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/09/93 5:56p Subj: TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > then I guess you don't need repeats. Remember it only takes ONE error > for you to miss a mail bundle! Sure, you'll say "but I'd just freq t > from Boyd"; but you might not say that if you were in Bermuda! <G> > If Planet Connect stops repeating the mail and you don't get everything > the when it is sent, it is lost for good. Not everyone can afford Worst of all, how do you even know that you missed anything, let alone *what* you missed? Dunno about you, but I don't have the *time* to poke around every single day, just to see if I missed something. It damn well *better* be repeated! :-) --- FLAME v1.00/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CARL NAVARRO Number: 1177 To: CHRIS CHILDS Date: 12/07/93 8:37p Subj: Re: planet connect Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Chris Childs to All <=- CC> Hey anybody: CC> I just got into this planet connect and thing and i was just CC> wondering. About how much would it cost me to get it all connected to CC> my house? I am talking the software and hardware required. How much CC> would all of that be total? Send us all your money and we'll give you back what's left :-). Depends. What are ya gonna do with it? If you just capture the data on a machine, a 100MB HD would be O.K. A 286 should do that without a problem. So, all ya need is the Satellite system and a computer to collect it. Now, did you want to do someting else with the data? Perhaps a network would be in order, something to munch the mail, and, don't forget the BBS. The satellite is easy. $550 or so (Ku band), $40/month for service, find a computer to store the data on, and buy Netware 1.1 (Cards at $50 each, software at $69 each). This adds the Filebone to your present system. Now, you might want a third machine to munch the mail so that the PC machine can continuously collect data, and the associated network card and software. You can easily add another $4-500 to your cost. Is it worth it? You bet your bottom! Not only do you get FIDO, but all the files in the SDN and some other networks, as well as Usenet, the Worthless Weather and TV listings (oops PERKS!). As time goes on, this will be the only way to go! Newsaholics unite! Carl Navarro ... Use DEVICE=EXXON to screw up your environment area. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.12 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: ELmwood eXchange Bowling Green, OH 419-353-5024 (1:234/59) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 1178 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/10/93 10:48p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec1022:48, John Dodson of 1:381/123@fidonet.org writes: JD> if I take down the satellite software and run it from the JD> server. Any ideas? Does anyone have a way of dealing with JD> incoming satellite data ... without manual intervention! The setup that we have is quite simple. We run the software under Desqview. When the batch file drops to the maintainance task it spawns another batch job to run DSZ. DSZ in turn sends the data to the processor machine at 38400 baud (using an 8250 which is OK for transmission only) and a task on the OS/2 machine(TE/2) picks up the data and deposits it in the inbound. After DSZ runs it deletes the data, then batch job/task ends. The main processing task just looks for data in the inbound when ever it is not busy and tosses the mail. There are four outbound lines at 14400 and the serial inbound line at 38400 (16550 of course) and the OS/2 machine can receive/toss and send mail continuously with about 56 percent CPU usage. The stand alone machine is a 486 - 16 bit wide IBM clone motherboard 4 meg ram at 25x2 Mhz with a 100 meg IDE hard drive. This provides lots of space. The OS/2 machine is an Intel 486 33Mhz - 16 meg ram with a 1 gig drive. The actual usage for the mail and files is more in the neighbourhood of 330 Meg. for BBS usage. The events must be set to poll the sites each hour with the lines staggered at every half hour. This is also set into the BBS schedule (MAX - events00.bbs) so that the mail has a chance to get out on a timely basis. I have developed a Rexx script to automate most aspects of hadling the mail under OS/2. If anybody is interested freq. control.zip when my system is not busy - good luck! --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1179 To: JERRY DUNLAP Date: 12/11/93 1:34p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jerry! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/10/93> Jerry Dunlap wrote: JD> > Hello Timothy! JD> > JD> > In a message to All <12/05/93> Timothy Wagoner wrote: JD> > JD> > TW> I am now set up for Planet Connect am am testing to see if the JD> > echomailTW> goes through. JD> > JD> > Got it here in Middle Tennessee. JD> > Joe JD> Hey, I'm in middle Tn. YOu are in lower-middle Tn. <g> Oh well 75 miles off ehh. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Reality is for people who can't handle computers. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE ROBERT Number: 1180 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/11/93 10:03a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TB> BDOS_258 ZIP 297990 12-01-93 11:15p TB> you may be interested in the docs: TB> This is TEST SOFTWARE. You are NOT AUTHORIZED to pass this TB> software on to ANYONE without explicit permission granted by TB> Vince Perriello, Bob Hartman or Alan Bryant. The penalties TB> for such transgressions are very severe: we will get pissed TB> off and send you a copy of someone else's software to run TB> (whichever one happens to REALLY scare you most). You have TB> been warned. TB> I was a little stunned that software bearing such a warning [...] Terry, I'm pretty sure that this is tongue-in-cheek to the max. The Binkley trio are saying in a roundabout way that this is beta software and not to complain if your system gets fried. That same warning has been on all the betas in my recollection. -Mike --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Brave New World / NEC3638 (1:3638/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1181 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/11/93 3:05p Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tim! Wednesday December 08 1993, Tim Brown writes to Robert Watson: TB> Hopefully the next version of GEcho will allow cranking up the dupe TB> database size to a more viable number. I liked being able to have it TB> set large enough to cover 7 days of traffic. Would that number, for checking dupes, not be on an echo tag by echo tag basis. eg 32,000 dup per echotag... that is the way it works in Squish and QM at least. 32,000 seems like a terribly high number and must eat up incredible amounts of disk. Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: STEVE PERLO Number: 1182 To: FOXY FERGUSON Date: 12/11/93 9:32p Subj: Tic'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Ola' Foxy In a message to Steve Perlo <12/10/93> Foxy Ferguson wrote: FF> Ola' Steve. Better idea! Let's persuade Mark Gibson or Rudolf Rothemund FF> to hatch PCHECK out in Utilnet2. Then we can ALL get it. Great Idea Foxy! Who do you think we should bug first. BTW I love your opening line (Ola'). Hope to be at the next Mediate meeting.. * WCE 1.10/2008 * KLEPTOMANIA! Take something for it! --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM DUNMYER Number: 1183 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 12/10/93 8:02a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Keith, I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS that included all those areas. Took about an hour and a half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), and now all my downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. Yeah, it's the brute-force method, but it worked. Now, to get AREAFIX to automatically update the AREAS.BBS when unrecognized areas arrive. I'm told that that's possible. --- FLAME v1.00/b * Origin: Toledo's TBBS, 10+ gigs, 100,000 files 313-854-6001 (1:234/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1184 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/11/93 2:01a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 09 22:34>, Terry Blount writes: TB>This is TEST SOFTWARE. You are NOT AUTHORIZED to pass this TB>software on to ANYONE without explicit permission granted by TB>Vince Perriello, Bob Hartman or Alan Bryant. TB> I was a little stunned that software bearing such a TB>warning would be distributed via the Filebone? It's a wide beta release sanctioned by Vince. He just distributed the same file that most of the beta testers had been using. Got your attention, huh? :-) D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KYLE HEARN Number: 1185 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/10/93 9:32p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin stated these words of wisdom to Dennis Powers: > Just tell him it's the Canadian spelling :-)). BG> BG> Tried that. I think he is starting to catch on to my BG> canadien ways. Boyd, I am very interested in hooking up to the plannet connect system and am considering purchasing it in the very near future. I do not have a dish at the moment and imagine I would be buying it with the system to make sure it works correctly. How much would this cost me for everything I need to start and then is there a monthly fee? How do I need to pay, etc.? Please respond. Kyle --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Metroplex Mailbox*650 Echos*Metro 817-268-1422 (1:130/1008) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 1186 To: JOSH HEIZMAN Date: 12/12/93 5:22a Subj: FastEcho and QWK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Josh Heizman, in a message to All, you wrote: JH> A) Does anyone with a PC Satellite (which I would think JH> would just about be all of you <smile>) run FastEcho?? Josh, We're running it here with no problems. John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1187 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/12/93 11:55a Subj: Duplicates Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No EJ>Hello Tim! EJ>Wednesday December 08 1993, Tim Brown writes to Robert Watson: EJ> TB> Hopefully the next version of GEcho will allow cranking up the dupe EJ> TB> database size to a more viable number. I liked being able to have it EJ> TB> set large enough to cover 7 days of traffic. EJ>Would that number, for checking dupes, not be on an echo tag by echo tag EJ>basis. EJ>eg 32,000 dup per echotag... that is the way it works in Squish and QM at EJ>least. EJ>32,000 seems like a terribly high number and must eat up incredible amounts EJ>d EJ>isk. EJ>Cheers, Ervin If it be an area limit instead of a global limit, I would have an issue with it. <g> -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1188 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 12/12/93 7:59a Subj: .qwk packets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Does anyone out there have a .qwk packet to Hudson or JAM message base > converter? Someone told me that a program called Fred Gate works? I'm > running Remote Access 2.01 Pro 10. Thanks. Look around at any RADIST site (sorry I purged mine...accidentally ): for a file called MKNET???.* Supports JAM, Squish, Hudson, and *.MSG See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1189 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/08/93 10:17p Subj: ROUTED NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > * Origin: Earth Station WA4KDC Planet Connected via Galaxy 4 73 de VE3CUZ on same bird --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1190 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/08/93 10:36p Subj: USENET FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, I am relative new to the usenet/internet arena, and presumably you are too. So I am hoping that you or someone else can tell me/us how we're can handle some of the logistics behind setting up the newsgroups via PC. I presently have a feed from a local system, and may wish to feed him. However, the problem I forsee in the mean time is how I process inbound newsgroups via PC and send outbound mail to my landline link. Any thoughts, ideas? Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1191 To: ED MARQUIS Date: 12/12/93 9:57p Subj: Re: Weather Maps Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It does allow you to create an icon but it all has to be done manually. > We need a utility that works in a batch file. Well hopefully someone will write one one of these days. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1192 To: JOHN LUNDELL Date: 12/12/93 9:59p Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I had to play with the recommended settings to get one that works for > me.. was > almost at the very top of the list - far away from the most recommended - > before I started getting error-free reception.. had I not had an > ex-satellite > tech here to play around with these things I'd probably be only getting > 30% of > the files right now <G> Well it varies with either the location or the data-receiver. Each receiver is tested before being allowed to be shipped with the normal settings. We do not get any errors off a 3 foot ku or the 7.5 foot c-band. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1193 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/12/93 10:00p Subj: Re: IS ANYONE OUT THERE? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > 002 worked MUCH MUCH better. I got TONS of errors "repositioning" during > the 001 file. .002 tossed just fine. Yap. I think that I will have to toss in toss out. I will be trying 12 bit compression on the bag file and still compress the pcusnet files with pkzip just to see what happens. ...boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1194 To: NICK ASHTON-HART Date: 12/12/93 10:01p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > ^^^^^ > Looks like it's too late already. never too late, just too tired. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1195 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/12/93 10:03p Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > JB? I figured you boys would be burning Tennessee Lemonaid. :-) Now Dave remember. I am not from here. The closest we can get to that lemonaid is Newfoundland screech and that use to burn my stomach. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1196 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/12/93 10:07p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It wasn't Bink, it was ClassAxe. I've since gotten a new version of Bink > and I'll try it out in the next day or so to make sure all works. Will > advise. Funny how I could connect with you at anytime. > I still haven't decided whether I'm keeping the ISDN or not. Equipment > cost are still a question. I hope the price is reasonable. > BTW, got the equipment. No instructions however... but that never > stopped me before. Say which side goes toward the satellite? Convex or > concave side? <smirk> Well thats because we wanted everyone to get aqqainted with thier equipment. If we told you how to put it together then it take all the fun out of learning what it does.;-) ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1197 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/12/93 10:07p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Ha! Yeh, well be happy you still have some hair. I'm gaining this > increasingly polished spot on front from going "<slap> Oh No!!" a little > too often. :-) What's that blonde joke? ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1198 To: FLOYD DRENNON Date: 12/12/93 10:14p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I realize you're up against a stiff learning curve, but, had anyone in > your > organization ever been involved in moving echomail before? This isn't > meant to be a smartass question, it's just that some of the answers I'm > seeing don't indicate even a basic knowledge of routing and how it works. Yap me. I have been fido for about 4 years now. I know about routing and what is involved. John said it best on exactly what will have to be done for return mail from John to the systems that connect with me. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1199 To: MIKE LABBE Date: 12/12/93 10:42p Subj: Re: is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > What are the guidelines for a network to be transmitted via the bird? I > have a small network here with about 30 boards, that we started in 1988. > Thanks in advance Best call by voice on that one. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1200 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/12/93 10:43p Subj: Re: Fancy Schnancy Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Those systems are at it again...... > 3831/100, 229/15 and 271/27 routing two of these netmail 'round and > 'round the > atmosphere........ > Can they be stopped I've done some changes here that will hopefully catch those things and not let em go though. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1201 To: JERRY SCROGGIN Date: 12/12/93 10:45p Subj: Re: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > out of dv the pc seems solid enough..every once in a while i see that it > has not snatched a mail packet...dv gets numerous errors..well i see > know errors...i only see about half the files i should...i have upgraded > to dos 6.02, qemm 7.03, dv 2.61 and checked hyperdisk. I'm at a > loss..working a a 286/12 to throw on the network to handle it. Well guy I wish I could help you but I dont know Sh*t about Dv. I am sure soem of the guys/gals in here could help you out. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1202 To: RF TOLLI Date: 12/12/93 10:46p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The Blind Hog Saloon BBS in NW FL is pleased to be carrying this echo. Got ya here too Rf. Welcome.... ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1203 To: GEORGE PEACE Date: 12/12/93 10:51p Subj: Re: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > modified software or be left out. I'm sure there are good reasons, both > technical and market, for using .Bag files. And my software loves them. > I'm just enjoying whining today. ;-) If your software loves em then we dont change anything. What if we said we were going to put it in our own style and had every software company out there make changes to thier software to suite us. I would imagin that they would do it but if they have it aready done to work with PageSat then we sould keep it in that format. ....Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1204 To: RF TOLLI Date: 12/12/93 10:51p Subj: Re: Is this getting out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I hate FD!!! Let's see if this makes it out to TN- if it does, We are > finally > connected to Planet Connect. Got you here.... ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1205 To: JOE MEADORS Date: 12/12/93 10:52p Subj: Re: Planet Connect Info. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Just curious to know how your efforts are progressing in getting your > promotional video duplicated and distributed to those - like myself - who > have asked for information about Planet Connect. We are getting about all caught up. ..Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1206 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/12/93 10:56p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well dont worry everyone else is going to bitch too.....You just sent > about 50 corrupted and grundged message reports thru to everyone > today.....:) Thats a loop that one system keeps routing back to me then over the bird. I made a few changes here and hopefully it will catch those messages. > Agreed.....Until you state that you will.....at that point you obligate > yourself to return those that are undeliverable. Well if I have it set up to send everything to John then it would not be a problem. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1207 To: JOHN BIERRIE Date: 12/12/93 10:56p Subj: Re: grunged messages... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Boyd, > I don't know if it's just me here, but we've been getting a number > of these grunged NetMail messages over the past week or so. For the most I'm working on it. I think someone is just not being nice to me! ..boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1208 To: FRANK SALERNO Date: 12/12/93 10:57p Subj: Re: rime Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Please convince her to use your service. We are a RIME BBS and > it would be great to pull in the RIME echoes via satellite. I think the > problem is that she has too many options presented to her at the moment > and doesn't know which one to choose. Man its hard to convince a shrink! ;-) ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1209 To: KYLE HEARN Date: 12/12/93 10:59p Subj: Re: Routed Netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I am very interested in hooking up to the plannet connect system > and am considering purchasing it in the very near future. I do not have a > dish at the moment and imagine I would be buying it with the system to > make sure it works correctly. How much would this cost me for everything > I need to start and then is there a monthly fee? How do I need to pay, > etc.? Please respond. Kyle please freq PCINFO.TXT from our saystem and it will tell you the cost and services availible to you over the satellite. ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1210 To: CHRIS WIESNER Date: 12/12/93 11:03p Subj: Re: USENET FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > However, the problem I forsee in the mean time is how I process inbound > newsgroups via PC and send outbound mail to my landline link. Any > thoughts, ideas? Well its all greek to me. I can see where you are coming from and have not even thought of this. Maybe someone here can shed some light. ...boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOYD GOODIN Number: 1211 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/12/93 11:03p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Betcha if I sent a standard routed netmail out of here you'll get it from > John's system... -:) If John does not have me in his routing statement I bet it wont! ...Boyd --- DB 1.54/004770 * Origin: Planet Connect Satellite Uplink. Newport Tn. SATU. (1:3615/50) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL REEVES Number: 1212 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 12/12/93 3:06p Subj: areafix and Planet connec Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No KS>I was helping a friend (Ken Carpenter 1:14/608) set up Planet Connect last >weekend. We were trying to figure a way to set up areafix (v1.3) and PC. W >we wanted is to have the system he feeds be able to request whatever area is >fidonet.na & .no and have it immediately add the area. Without having to >forward the request and wait for something to come into bad messages. Is th >a way of doing this that we may have overlooked? I'm sure Boyd doesn't real >want requests forwarded to him. And we have the bad message area set very >small to dump out all the excess messages he isn't using to save space. I added the fidonet.na & .no lists to my mail tosser with a p for pass through on all but local conferences. Because it's a defined area it doesn't get in bad area, because it's already setup as pass through, areafix works with no intervention on my part. If there are no down links taking the echo area, the message is vaporized. The extra pass throughs slow down processing slightly but simplify my job. Michael ■ QMPro 1.51 ■ PCDOS&MSDOS&CP/M&WINDOWSI'LLFIDDLEWITHOS/2WOULDN'TYOU --- WM v3.10/93-0334 * Origin: MIKE'S PLACE USR DS 16.8 (715 845-4802) (1:238/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1213 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/12/93 9:23p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to All: RH> the newsgroups and Fido backbone while QUICKLY scanning the RH> confs. Also, what tosser will import these areas QUICKLY RH> into the BBS. So far, I see that Maximus is best for this, RH> but is there anything else I might try before opening my BBS RH> to the public? I run max, and used to run RA, and while max is fast, well fmail is way faster, I regularly used to toss 50 msgs a second, this including the unpacking time and everything, and now I am only getting about 10, and the fastest that I have heard of is like 30 msgs a second, and when you get 12000 + msgs a day, that 20/sec is going to be something to consider, but squish is free, fmail isn't. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1214 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/12/93 1:24a Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Least you still have some!!! -> -> 33 and a full set of hair. Isn't life grand? -> -> 45, bald and what's left is 95% GRAY!!! But, I LOVE IT!! :) --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1215 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/12/93 1:26a Subj: Re: HI!! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Division by zero in line 0 of module PCUTL at address 1514:0046. -> -> -> Thats a John Morano question. Hey John can you help him out? -> -> -> ...Boyd I sent him Net Mail and he replied right away with a voice number. Spent about an hour on the phone with him. Seems he lived about 3 miles from me in NJ up till 14 years ago!!! Geee, ain't the world small!!! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1216 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/12/93 2:10a Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> In the for what it's worth department, Mark, we've had some horre -> storms down here in North Lousyana (that's Louisiana for the uninform -> since we set up our KU band dish and we've had no loss of data due to -> them so far. It's been a very reliable setup for us down here despit -> bad weather. Heck, it's raining again down here now, but not heavily -> -> Can't wait to see how it'll do in snow. -> -> -> --)@ Patty @(-- -> Hi Patty!! Well, I too can vouch for the 3 ft Ku. I'm up in New Jersey and have had some rather nasty weather since I went on-line. The dish has so far made it through 40 to 50 mph winds with no movement and no signal loss. Today, we had our first snow. The heavy wet kind. Not a lot of accumulation, but the visibilty was down to maybe 200 feet. No problem what so ever!!! So far.....so good!!! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1217 To: TROLL Date: 12/12/93 2:09a Subj: Is anyone seeing this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> help!!!!! -> --- FreeMail 1.09 -> * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * -> (1:3605/666) Got it in NJ! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 1218 To: ALL Date: 12/12/93 1:25a Subj: Dish Allignment - Errors - Etc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have finally got everything installed here, but am having a few problems. I have a good strong signal coming in, the data light is doing its thing and when I run the PCSKY progam it shows all the data coming in, shows what the file name is that is arriving etc. Only problem is that I'm getting mostly errors with the status line shows things like TUB, TUT and TCB. Is this an antenna alignment problem, or is it something I need to adjust in the software or the dip switches or whatever. Weird thing is that I had them send me a new satellite data receiver as the first one had a faultly power supply, and I notice that the dip switch settings on the new receiver are different than the first one they sent me. Are the settings different for each receiver, or are they suppose to be the same for all of them? I am using the Ku receiver from Westonia in Ontario. Any help from anyone with similar experiences would be appreciated. Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEITH SIPPY Number: 1219 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/13/93 1:28a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JD> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS JD> that included all those areas. Took about an hour and a JD> half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), and now all my JD> downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. JD> JD> Yeah, it's the brute-force method, but it worked. That's what I did with my setup. I use Squish and Seal. When I switched to that method I went from 13 messages/second to 9. However, not having to do anything with the downlinks makes up for it. :) I was hoping Areafix may of had a way around that. Maybe in the future. Keith --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: Aardvark's Aquarium, Mail from geostationary orbit. (1:283/121) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1220 To: DAVE SLOAN Date: 12/12/93 11:22p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The setup that we have is quite simple. We run the software under > Desqview. When the batch file drops to the maintainance task it spawns > another batch job to run DSZ. DSZ in turn sends the data to the > processor machine at 38400 baud (using an 8250 which is OK for > transmission only) and a task on the OS/2 machine(TE/2) picks up the > data and deposits it in the inbound. After DSZ runs it deletes the data, WOW, what an interesting idea! I never would have thought of that. Such a grandiose idea deserves a pat on the back. > then batch job/task ends. The main processing task just looks for data > in the inbound when ever it is not busy and tosses the mail. There are > four outbound lines at 14400 and the serial inbound line at 38400 (16550 > of course) and the OS/2 machine can receive/toss and send mail > continuously with about 56 percent CPU usage. The stand alone machine is Doesn't that slow the bbs down a little? 4 lines all transmitting would certainly be affected by an inbound 38.4 connection, wouldn't it? At any rate, it's an ingenious solution, and I'm writing that one down in my little book of tricks ;) See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1221 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/12/93 11:24p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Now, to get AREAFIX to automatically update the AREAS.BBS when > unrecognized areas arrive. I'm told that that's possible. With RAID it's simple. Define where your AREAS.BBS is, where your inbound subdir is, and which systems have the ability to "create" file areas. Quite a few more definitions will be necessary, but these are the most important. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN NEPTUNE Number: 1222 To: TROLL Date: 12/12/93 8:04p Subj: Is anyone seeing this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> help!!!!! What!!! --- WM v3.10/92-0433 * Origin: Distant Mirror BBS! Clarksville,TN 615-648-1782 (1:3621/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1223 To: ALL Date: 12/12/93 10:31p Subj: .BAG FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone have or know of a utility that will parse the .BAG newsgroup files to 'forward' only those news groups of interest? I don't want to process several hundred newgroup areas a day when I am only interested in a couple dozen of them. Thanks... --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1224 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/11/93 11:48a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > You also get them from John as he has a Send line for you.... BG> BG> Well I have yet to see a reouted messages to me come BG> thru John's system to me. I pick all my routed mail up BG> from my hub. Betcha if I sent a standard routed netmail out of here you'll get it from John's system... -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1225 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/11/93 11:49a Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Jens Mueller is the temp HQ's for PCB. We're working on getting it to > John right this moment. Good 'ol Jens ain't no stinking control freak PP> Yep, saw your message re: this in FILE_MOVERS, Jim. I was debating on PP> whether or not to copy the original message there but PP> you beat me to it. <g> Files, more Files! -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 1226 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/12/93 9:58a Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd, Internet usenet groups are working flawlessly over here, what's the chance of getting more of them in the near future??? I passed on the files to another node here in my net, and he was able to convert them from .BAG files to .PKT files as well, so we are ready! Looking forward to all the alt. comp. misc. rec. etc,etc,etc... Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ─═[ 'dBest' Western Star, TBBS ]═─ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1227 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/11/93 8:57p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Sean Peoples: DO> In a msg on <Dec 09 21:52>, Sean Peoples writes: DO> Really? One of my downlink hubs is using d'Bridge and I DO> have no problem with him. As well as several other systems DO> locally using d'Bridge with no problem. Strange. From the BinkleyTerm 2.58 "What's New" file: ===%cut here%=== Changes in BinkleyTerm 2.58 from 2.57 ------------------------------------- In addition to several changes to the EMSI logic, log any EMSI keyword we don't understand. This will be instrumental in figuring out why we still occasionally have EMSI parsing problems with some D'Bridge systems. ===%cut here%=== DO> I'll accept what you say, wonder if it's just certain DO> versions or what? Also could be exagerated by the ISDN DO> speed. Oh well..... Well, the clip you see above (besides personal experiences being unable to connect to D'Bridge), is all the info I have, sorry... Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1228 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/11/93 9:00p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin wrote in a message to Sean Peoples: BG> Got that right! >:-) Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1229 To: ALL Date: 12/12/93 11:19p Subj: 1st Transmit of the day Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Was just curious if there's a particular start time each day for the new stuff? Right now I have to drop out of other DV tasks to collect SAT data, then bring the nodes back on-line. Problem is I will possibly miss data if I don't start the retrieval quick enough. I tried using 9am and found that I missed some of the first 2-3 bundles (QWK) of mail. I'm not processing that so it isn't a big deal. So my question is: "Is there a scheduled start for each day?" I know the data is repeated, but would like to get it first time around. Thanks for any help from out there..... Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDY HEHN Number: 1230 To: JERRY RUSSELL Date: 12/12/93 5:15p Subj: NEWCOMER! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> move it back to the BBS'S outbound Dir. I also run ALLFIX now to -> clean out all the new inbound Files/Tic I just set up ALLFIX and tried it. Why am I getting error messages like this when it runs? Processing TK445535.TIC from 1:3615/50 └ (by TICK v2.10 (C) Copyright Barry Geller - 1988,1989,1990,1991,1992) Area WIN_GRAF File WMF2RIP.ZIP Msg BadSec violation from : 1:3615/50 Msg Moving bad TIC file to 'V:\ALLFIX\BADTIC\' Msg Moving orphaned file 'WMF2RIP.ZIP' to 'V:\ALLFIX\BADTIC\' Every file that ALLFIX tries to process goes to the badtic dir. Is this how you have it set up in node manager in asetup? System 1:3615/50 Sysop boyd goodin File echo password PCSYS AreaMgr password Authorized groups 0 Use aka 1:3615/51 Mail archive status None Direct No TIC file mode Normal TIC file Packing mode No packing Include message file Yes Send notify list No Forward requests No Allow Auto-add No Remote maintenance No Compression type ZIP I also have 1:3615/50 added to each area under systems in file echo manager. --- FidoPCB v1.4 [f0f99/c] * Origin: Home Base BBS, St. Thomas, Ontario (1:221/128) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE LABBE Number: 1231 To: JOHN DODSON Date: 12/13/93 7:28a Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Thanks to ALL of you who responded with some vewry helpful suggestions on -> how best to automate a PC setup! Welcome to PC, John! --- DB 1.54/004201 * Origin: Eagles Nest Communications - Providence, RI USA (1:323/126) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1232 To: BOYD GOODWIN Date: 12/13/93 9:08p Subj: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just wanted to send out a howdy test message. So howdy! BTW, which area do most of the 3615/51 systems use to talk to each other, this one or the PC-Sites??? Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: C.S.R.N. BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BURTON Number: 1233 To: TROLL Date: 12/13/93 6:46p Subj: IS ANYONE SEEING THIS? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > help!!!!! > ___ FreeMail 1.09 > + Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * "Troll" ? <grin> Made it to MidAmerica!!! --==jb==-- --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: gated by sandbox.nova.com (1:147/34) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1234 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/13/93 11:37p Subj: RAID Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! TL> With RAID it's simple. Define where your AREAS.BBS is, where your inboun TL> subdir is, and which systems have the ability to "create" file areas. Is RAID shareware? If so where can I freq a copy, if not where do I contact to get a copy? Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * This is an egg... this is an egg on a 486DX-50 cpu... --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1235 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/13/93 5:17p Subj: DISH ALLIGNMENT - ERRORS - ETC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Any help from anyone with similar experiences would be appreciated. Have you tried increasing the Gain by turning the blue knob on the back of the receiver? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ANTONIO RIVEROS Number: 1236 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/13/93 7:50p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I was just wondering what BBS software some of you are using with PC. With -> coming of Usenet, among other things, I want to hear your suggestions on w -> is good for the users. I want to offer all the areas as non-passthru and a -> want to allow downloading via QWK. What mail door will handle all the -> newsgroups and Fido backbone while QUICKLY scanning the confs. Also, what -> tosser will import these areas QUICKLY into the BBS. So far, I see that Ma -> is best for this, but is there anything else I might try before opening my -> to the public? I am using Wildcat 3.90. I use wildmail to toss echomail, and am setting up WILDUUCP to toss the newsgroups. For the BBS is all depends on the software you want. I am a diehard wildcat person and you could not convince me to switch to something like maximus. Antonio Riveros --- WM v3.10/91-0090 * Origin: Hackers Haven BBS. 6+Gigs,Edmonton's Satellite Link (1:342/666.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1237 To: ALL Date: 12/14/93 5:15a Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Those of you are not real happy with PCUTIL or your own batchfile implementations for handling the files coming in over the satellite without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP It was sent to Boyd at 3615/50 this morning for hatching or if you want to get it sooner its availible for file request from 370/510 anytime outside mail hour at HST or v32bis speeds. The file is 31k. Features: @ It -will- run under 4DOS (PCUTIL doesnt and thats why SKYMAIL exists) @ It optionally moves MAIL bundles and OTHER files to separate dirs @ It allows you to specify files that you dont care if you get or not so that you can go ahead and process when the ones you want come in @ It transparently maintains SKYMAIL.IDX which is similar to CHECK.IDX except it keeps the day recieved and filesize of each file also. @ It logs files that were NOT recieved as well as those that were @ It has an errorlevel for all MAIL -and- OTHER files recieved @ It has an errorlevel for all MAIL files recieved @ It has an errorlevel for all OTHER non-mail files recieved @ It has a user definable time to exit with a specific errorlevel which is handy for those who want to process things -once- a day after a specific time regardless of whether everything was recieved @ It actually has a SKYMAIL.DOC file that tells you something :) @ It is FREEWARE :) --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1238 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/13/93 3:36a Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> I wrote myself a program, which takes all the -> fileareas in the filebone.na and assigned a dirve:\directory -> filearea# for wildcat and it reads each tic file for the area and -> writes my wcff.cfg for that day and tosses them. This program you wrote specific to YOUR system only? --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLENN VERMETTE Number: 1239 To: ALL Date: 12/13/93 8:10p Subj: Hello Out There! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No This is a test message to see if I get any response. Got the satellite dish working yesterday and have been getting complete error-free reception, even during the heavy, heavy rain (40-50 mm yesterday), with dense cloud and fog. I'm somewhat impressed! Now that the hard part is done, I hope this is making its way back out onto the backbone. Anyone see this yet? Glenn --- * Origin: The Smell Of Bacon II - Shawnigan Lake, BC CANADA (1:340/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1240 To: RF TOLLI Date: 12/13/93 2:25p Subj: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The Blind Hog Saloon BBS in NW FL is pleased to be carrying this echo. Hi Tolli! Good to see you here. Guess y'all got home okay after the BBS CON, eh? :) --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1241 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/13/93 2:30p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well I dont mind. With me being single I have to sprouce up my 3 > mintutes of free time a day. Geez, you mean you get 3 whole minutes of uninterrupted free time a day, Boyd? We'll have to talk to your boss about that. <g> --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1242 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/13/93 2:33p Subj: Re: Dupes Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Yey and the next thing I know I would come back and the whole system > will be down. Cant have that now. Just tell your boss & the other subscribers that you had a weekend of drunken debauchery down in Region 19 and I'm sure they'll understand... <G> > > Beg... tell him it's good PR. > > > Weeeeeellll..... maybe! So tell him you have to meet with Souvestre over a :ahem: technical matter... in short, lie like a cheap rug. ;D --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1243 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/13/93 2:35p Subj: PCBoard Files .. Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Files, more Files! -:) :grunt: Need bigger hard drive. Hey, Pete Stern lives up in Alaska, do you suppose he'd let me route my netmail wishlist to Santa via his system, Jim? ;D --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1244 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/13/93 2:37p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Well, I too can vouch for the 3 ft Ku. > I'm up in New Jersey and have had some rather nasty > weather since I went on-line. > > The dish has so far made it through 40 to 50 mph > winds with no movement and no signal loss. Sounds good to me, Fred. We had another serious storm (high winds, lots of the wet stuff) and no errors, no signal loss, nada, nothing but mail and loads of filebone stuff. :) It's pretty windy up in Cheyenne, so it's good to hear that the wind isn't having adverse affects on your dish. How & where is yours mounted? Ours is up on the roof. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JAMES MCORMOND Number: 1245 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/12/93 8:45p Subj: Re: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message of Th 09-Dec-93 21:57, Jim Watson wrote: JW> BH> Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party JW> They should be coming over the dish...... Doesn't seem that they are. Anybody know why? --- * Origin: Jammy's Amiga Corner, ZyX19.2k (613)521-0455 (1:163/139) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1246 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/13/93 12:37a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Jim! Friday December 10 1993, Jim Dunmyer writes to Keith Sippy: JD> Now, to get AREAFIX to automatically update the AREAS.BBS when JD> unrecognized areas arrive. I'm told that that's possible. Does AreaFIX not have a "NewAreaCreate" verb?? Cheers, Ervin --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JAMIESON Number: 1247 To: JASON BUCHANAN Date: 12/13/93 5:49a Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JB> BTW, this works great with DV! Now I can receive the datastream 24 JB> hours a day, have the BBS up 24 hours a day, and be able to read it JB> in another window. I was afraid I'd have to single-task until I buy JB> another CPU, but not now! I would be interested in knowing what your desqview setup is, I haven't had any luck here. I get a raft of errors if I attempt to do anything under desqview. I assume if I am geting errors things arn't working properly. John --- QuickBBS 2.76a * Origin: Mt. Retreat * Felton Ca * 408-335-4595 (1:216/506) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1248 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/13/93 3:41a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Keith, -> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS that included al -> areas. Took about an hour and a half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), a -> my downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. -> -> Yeah, it's the brute-force method, but it worked. -> -> Now, to get AREAFIX to automatically update the AREAS.BBS when unreco -> areas arrive. I'm told that that's possible. Yes, Areafix can be set up to add, delete and pass on any and all echo requests automatically. We did that on 107/33 when the net approved picking up the entire Fidonet.na from George Peace. (13/13 or 270/101). Worked just fine. We are now using it to link and de-link active areas from our Plannet Connect down link. This same system will be used when I am ready to accept links to Rhub 13/24 (107/33). Take care, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 1249 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/10/93 9:58p Subj: Re: NETMAIL Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> netmail. I said I will try this and see. Seems I got the routing down -> thanks to one of our users. Looks that way, Boyd. The test message I sent thru you to John worked and it DIDN'T go over the dish!!!!! Amazing, isn't it (grin)..... --Martin-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARTIN BELCKE Number: 1250 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/11/93 4:58p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Bob Hunter is getting the 3 ft Ku and he's 35 miles south of me. I -> > works out for him with our weather then that's the way I'll go, if -> Can't wait to see how it'll do in snow. It'll probably shiver a bit. Might want to put a stocking cap on it. You could even paint a couple of eyes, a nose and a mouth on it and make it look like a big face looking skyward.... --GRIN-- --- GOMail v1.2 [BETA] [92-0105] * Origin: Hackers World BBS 16.5 Gig - 24 lines (1:232/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 1251 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 12/12/93 9:28p Subj: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Subject: TIC's RR> RR> I noticed that you started sending a filebond file and then it's RR>accompanying TIC file. THANK YOU. That will solve some problems! RR> RR> Any "official" news on the Newsgroups yet? I guess I need to know is RR>what kind of software will I need to run. A gateway program such as RR>Fredmail (I run a Wildcat BBS)? RR> RR> Once we get those, we'll write some programs to pull the mail from RR>the computers, check to see if it is all there (TIC'S and files), and RR>then toss them as they come in. As it is now, a programmer named Mark RR>Gibson has written a program called PCHECK, which checks all the files RR> RR> Rudolf Rothemund NC/NEC Net 2440 Rudolf, I see you are also running a Wildcat BBS. We just changed from RA to Wildcat because of RA's limitations on the message base. I am still looking for a good TIC file processor that will interface with Wildcat. I have a registered copy of ALLFIX here, but have not been able to get it to add files to my message base automatically. What program are you using as the TIC fileprocessor? If it is available for Freq, let me know. Thanks Jacobo ■ JFO ■ Do less and accomplish more. --- WM v3.10 [Eval]/93-8511 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS, Aruba (1:18/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GLEN DAVIS Number: 1252 To: ALL Date: 12/13/93 6:59p Subj: Testing, testing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The dish is up, the cable is run, the meter reads "8+", the lights blink, the mail tosses, the hard drive fills.... ...now, any of this getting OUT? -Glen --- timEd-B9 * Origin: |=[Bloom Co. Hospital>=--- |[GRapids MI] (616)361-8345 (1:228/500) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE MILLER Number: 1253 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/13/93 7:30p Subj: Dish Allignment - Errors - Etc Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GV> I have finally got everything installed here, but am GV> having a few problems. GV> I have a good strong signal coming in, the data light GV> is doing its thing and when I run the PCSKY progam it GV> shows all the data coming in, shows what the file name GV> is that is arriving etc. Only problem is that I'm GV> getting mostly errors with the status line shows things GV> like TUB, TUT and TCB. GV> Is this an antenna alignment problem, or is it GV> something I need to adjust in the software or the dip GV> switches or whatever. Hard to say without more information. Are you running under a multitasking or network enviornment. Doing say can cause loss of characters do to interrupt latency if the system is not configured properly to account for running in these enviornments. GV> Weird thing is that I had them send me a new satellite GV> data receiver as the first one had a faultly power GV> supply, and I notice that the dip switch settings on GV> the new receiver are different than the first one they GV> sent me. Are the settings different for each receiver, GV> or are they suppose to be the same for all of them? I GV> am using the Ku receiver from Westonia in Ontario. The switch settings have recently changed as the downlink frequency of the signal was changed to reduce errors caused by interference from another signal on a nearby frequency. Regards, Dave. --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: The EDGE BBS (1:285/26) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1254 To: DAVE JAMES Date: 12/13/93 3:36p Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave James wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: DJ> I passed on the files to another node here in my net, and he DJ> was able to convert them from .BAG files to .PKT files as DJ> well, so we are ready! DJ> Looking forward to all the alt. comp. misc. rec. DJ> etc,etc,etc... BTW aren't there 5400 news groups? I just talked to Vanderbilt News server guy, and this is the current word on full internet feeds. At vandy, which connects to darwin, they get 120-150 megs a day. This number is growing by 10% a month, so it's growing fast. If we get a full internet feed, there won't be the possibility of repeats on the satellite, will there? --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RON BRANDT Number: 1255 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/13/93 10:27p Subj: Please Send TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please add me to the list for a mailed copy of TVAGENT Thanks Ron --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff086/c] * Origin: DSC BBS * Ivyland, PA * 215-443-7390 * 6,000 SIGS! * (1:273/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1256 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/13/93 11:14p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Guy VanDell wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: GV> I run max, and used to run RA, and while max is fast, well GV> fmail is way faster, I regularly used to toss 50 msgs a GV> second, this including the unpacking time and everything, GV> and now I am only getting about 10, and the fastest that I GV> have heard of is like 30 msgs a second, and when you get GV> 12000 + msgs a day, that 20/sec is going to be something to GV> consider, but squish is free, fmail isn't. Thanks for the response Guy. I will look into RA. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1257 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/13/93 8:40p Subj: .BAG FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tracy Mickley wrote in a message to All: TM> Does anyone have or know of a utility that will parse the TM> .BAG newsgroup files to 'forward' only those news groups of TM> interest? I don't want to process several hundred newgroup TM> areas a day when I am only interested in a couple dozen of TM> them. just only put the groups you want in your mapfile, the resst will be dumped.. if you are using fred. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICKEY FERGUSON Number: 1258 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/14/93 4:07a Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No * In a message originally to Dave James, Guy VanDell said: GV>BTW aren't there 5400 news groups? GV>I just talked to Vanderbilt News server guy, and this is the GV>current word on full internet feeds. At vandy, which GV>connects to darwin, they get 120-150 megs a day. This number GV>is growing by 10% a month, so it's growing fast. GV>If we get a full internet feed, there won't be the GV>possibility of repeats on the satellite, will there? That's when I start saving $40 per month & connect this Ku band dish to my "other" satellite receiver and use it to watch TV [and get a life back!] --- GEcho 1.00 * Origin: Music City Archives - Genealogy & Ham Radio (1:116/210) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF CAMERON Number: 1259 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/13/93 12:57p Subj: Msgtoss Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Patty, I'm gonna have one of them there satellite receivers before christmas, and was wondering if your still running rbbs and using msgtoss for the mail. --- MsgToss 2.0d(beta) 02/21/93 * Origin: THE BEANERY BBS *USR DS HST/V32b/V42b* (512)578-8656 (1:3802/212) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 1260 To: KEITH SIPPY Date: 12/13/93 8:34p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Keith Sippy wrote in a message to Jim Dunmyer: JD> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS JD> that included all those areas. Took about an hour and a JD> half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), and now all my JD> downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. JD> Yeah, it's the brute-force method, but it worked. KS> That's what I did with my setup. I use Squish and Seal. KS> When I switched to that method I went from 13 KS> messages/second to 9. However, not having to do anything KS> with the downlinks makes up for it. :) I was hoping Areafix KS> may of had a way around that. Maybe in the future. Put this in your AREAFIX.CTL file: NewAreasCreate 3615/50 When AREAFIX checks your BAD_MSGS area (where messages from undeclared areas go), it'll add the area to your AREAS.BBS, and your next toss, if you enable tossing from BAD_MSGS, will speed those messages along on their merry way. If you don't declare 'NewAreasNoPassThru' then they'll even be declared as pass-thru. That's how I built my entire AREAS.BBS. =Eric --- timEd/B8 * Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1261 To: ALL Date: 12/14/93 1:59a Subj: Getting Out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Boyd Goodin to Rf Tolli <=- BG> Got you here.... Grin- thank god! This waiting two or three days to see if the latest tweak to the FD worked or not is sorta like playing handball without a wall! -RFT- --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1262 To: ALL Date: 12/14/93 2:20a Subj: OK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No one more test post- and, if this one makes it, a request for the sysop version of TVAgent. -RFT- --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JAMIESON Number: 1263 To: THOMAS BEAL Date: 12/13/93 6:14p Subj: Re: .qwk packets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No TB> Does anyone out there have a .qwk packet to Hudson or JAM message TB> base converter? Someone told me that a program called Fred Gate TB> works? I'm running Remote Access 2.01 Pro 10. Thanks. You can Freq MKNET100.ARJ from 1:216/506 at speeds to 14400. John --- QuickBBS 2.76a * Origin: Mt. Retreat * Felton Ca * 408-335-4595 (1:216/506) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS HATTON Number: 1264 To: TROLL Date: 12/14/93 1:15p Subj: Is anyone seeing this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No T> help!!!!! T> --- FreeMail 1.09 T> * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * ^^^^^^^^^ Sould I reply in brail?? Thomas --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: The_OS/2_Zone_Lexington,Ky. (606) 887-2277 (1:2370/2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1265 To: MICKEY FERGUSON Date: 12/14/93 8:00a Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Mickey Ferguson wrote in a message to Guy VanDell: MF> * In a message originally to Dave James, Guy VanDell said: GV>BTW aren't there 5400 news groups? GV>I just talked to Vanderbilt News server guy, and this is the GV>current word on full internet feeds. At vandy, which GV>connects to darwin, they get 120-150 megs a day. This number GV>is growing by 10% a month, so it's growing fast. GV>If we get a full internet feed, there won't be the GV>possibility of repeats on the satellite, will there? MF> That's when I start saving $40 per month & connect this Ku MF> band dish to my "other" satellite receiver and use it to MF> watch TV [and get a life back!] you can still just dump the pcusenet stuff if you want.. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1266 To: GLEN DAVIS Date: 12/14/93 8:28p Subj: Testing, testing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> The dish is up, the cable is run, the meter reads "8+", the lights bl -> mail tosses, the hard drive fills.... -> -> ...now, any of this getting OUT? -> -> -> -> -Glen Nope. --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Number: 1267 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 12/14/93 10:42p Subj: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND -> Subject: TIC's -> -> RR> -> RR> I noticed that you started sending a filebond file and then it' -> RR>accompanying TIC file. THANK YOU. That will solve some problems! -> RR> -> RR> Any "official" news on the Newsgroups yet? I guess I need to k -> RR>what kind of software will I need to run. A gateway program such -> RR>Fredmail (I run a Wildcat BBS)? -> RR> -> RR> Once we get those, we'll write some programs to pull the mail f -> RR>the computers, check to see if it is all there (TIC'S and files), -> RR>then toss them as they come in. As it is now, a programmer named -> RR>Gibson has written a program called PCHECK, which checks all the f -> RR> -> RR> Rudolf Rothemund NC/NEC Net 2440 -> -> Rudolf, -> I see you are also running a Wildcat BBS. We just changed from RA to -> Wildcat because of RA's limitations on the message base. I am still -> looking for a good TIC file processor that will interface with Wildca -> I have a registered copy of ALLFIX here, but have not been able to ge -> it to add files to my message base automatically. -> -> What program are you using as the TIC fileprocessor? If it is availab -> for Freq, let me know. -> Thanks -> Jacobo -> -> -> ■ JFO ■ Do less and accomplish more. -> -> -> --- WM v3.10 [Eval]/93-8511 -> * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS, Aruba (1:18/21) Hello. I like Wildcat, too! I use WCFILE to import my files from the Filebone area intp my Wildcat message bases. What I did was to wrote a batch file that tests for the presence of the FILES.BBS created TIC when it processses a TIC file, and when it finds the file the batch file runs WCFILE. Here's an excerpt of my TICKIN.BAT file: ======================================================================= TICK >> C:\BINK\TICK\TICK.LOG :START cd\bink\nodelist\nodediff If exist files.bbs goto NODELIST cd\bink\treklist If exist files.bbs goto STARFLET goto EXIT :NODELIST del c:\bink\nodediff\fidolist\nodediff.a* copy nodediff.a* c:\bink\nodediff copy nodediff.a* c:\bink\nodediff\fidolist copy nodediff.a* c:\bink\nodelist\nodelist cd\bink\nodelist\nodelist call xlaxnew.bat cd\bink\nodelist wildnode cd nodediff copy files.bbs c:\bink\nodediff del files.bbs cd\wc30 WCFILE /D:C:\bink\nodediff\files.bbs /P:1,12,34,80 /A:12 del c:\bink\nodediff\files.bbs cd\bink call mail5.bat goto START :TREKLIST del c:\bink\nodelist\treklist.* del c:\bink\nodelist\nodelist\treklist.* copy treklist.a* c:\bink\treklist copy treklist.a* c:\bink\nodelist copy treklist.a* c:\bink\nodelist\nodelist copy files.bbs c:\bink\treklist del treklist.A* del files.bbs cd\bink\nodelist pkxarc treklist.A* wildnode cd\bink\nodelist\nodelist call trek.bat cd\wc30 WCFILE /D:C:\bink\treklist\files.bbs /P:1,12,34,80 /A:15 del c:\bink\treklist\files.bbs del c:\bink\nodelist\treklist.A* del c:\bink\nodelist\nodelist\treklist.A* cd\bink call mail5.bat goto START ==================================================================== Hope this helps. If not, call my BBS and leave me a message and I'll go into more detail. Rudolf Rothemund, NC/NEC NET 2440 --- WM v3.10/92-0432 * Origin: The USS Columbia (216) 345-5807 (1:2440/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1268 To: JIM DUNMYER Date: 12/14/93 7:07a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->Keith, -> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS that included all those ->areas. Took about an hour and a half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), and now a ->my downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. I wrote a program that will do it in about 15-20 seconds. Let me clean it up and I ?hatch? it to somewhere. Chuck p.s. Also have one to handle TIC files. --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1269 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/13/93 8:45p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Betcha if I sent a standard routed netmail out of > here you'll get it from > John's system... -:) BG> BG> If John does not have me in his routing statement I bet it wont! If I send it to 3615/50, and route via John, betcha it will -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JIM WATSON Number: 1270 To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 12/13/93 8:46p Subj: Re: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JM> In a message of Th 09-Dec-93 21:57, Jim Watson wrote: JW> BH> Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party JW> They should be coming over the dish...... JM> Doesn't seem that they are. Anybody know why? Pat sends 'em here, I pump 'em up to John, and he's feeding 'em there. Your ZC, do a test hatch and we'll see were it goes -:) --- Maximus 2.01wb * Origin: <CyBorg ConTrol> (1:170/610) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 1271 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/14/93 6:34p Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Guy VanDell wrote in a message to Dave James: GV> Dave James wrote in a message to Boyd Goodin: DJ> I passed on the files to another node here in my net, and he DJ> was able to convert them from .BAG files to .PKT files as DJ> well, so we are ready! DJ> Looking forward to all the alt. comp. misc. rec. DJ> etc,etc,etc... GV> BTW aren't there 5400 news groups? 3500 <g> GV> I just talked to Vanderbilt News server guy, and this is the GV> current word on full internet feeds. At vandy, which GV> connects to darwin, they get 120-150 megs a day. This GV> number is growing by 10% a month, so it's growing fast. compressed, probably around 30-40meg range per day... (guessing of course) GV> If we get a full internet feed, there won't be the GV> possibility of repeats on the satellite, will there? Boyd says they are watching it, and it doenst' appear to be a problem... Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ─═['dBest' Western Star, TBBS/TDBS/QSO/PIMP/internet]═─ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LARRY JAMES Number: 1272 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/14/93 5:39a Subj: Re: NEWCOMER! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> I have a 4 computer setup here, as I am NEC for the NET and here is > Leave up to a consultant to use 4 computers for a 2 computer job. > <snicker> Would you beleave a 1 computer job?<G> WeCanDo, >>>Larry<<< --- DB 1.54/001249 * Origin: LifeTime Systems * Filebone HUB * 1-503-243-2471 * (1:105/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LARRY JAMES Number: 1273 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/14/93 6:01a Subj: Re: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Bob Hunter is getting the 3 ft Ku and he's 35 miles south of me. If it >> works out for him with our weather then that's the way I'll go, if he >> runs into problems then we'll go with a C-Band system. > In the for what it's worth department, Mark, we've had some > horrendous > storms down here in North Lousyana (that's Louisiana for the uninformed) > since we set up our KU band dish and we've had no loss of data due to any > of them so far. It's been a very reliable setup for us down here despite > the bad weather. Heck, it's raining again down here now, but not > heavily. > Can't wait to see how it'll do in snow. Here in Portland, OR we tend to have more ice then show. I was over at the dish site Satruday and never looked at it. I was to busy installing Allfix to send me all the file goodness that G3 can produce. At a 43+ degree latitude I doubt if the snow will effect it much anyway A few of the cronies went out a few dayes and realy shuch the dish a few days ago and couldn't produce enough signal loss to to degrade anything enough to produce an error. >>>Larry<<< --- DB 1.54/001249 * Origin: LifeTime Systems * Filebone HUB * 1-503-243-2471 * (1:105/72) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: KEN KAVANAGH Number: 1274 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/13/93 7:42p Subj: internet .BAG files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On Sunday December 12 1993, Dave James writes to Boyd Goodin: Hello Boyd! DJ> Internet usenet groups are working flawlessly over here, what's the chance DJ> of getting more of them in the near future??? DJ> I passed on the files to another node here in my net, and he was able to DJ> convert them from .BAG files to .PKT files as well, so we are ready! DJ> Looking forward to all the alt. comp. misc. rec. etc,etc,etc... with the obvious success just around the corner..I've been checking around town for a route back into internet and have found one. they're even interested in possibly getting a dish themselves to get internet mail as opposed to bringing it in via their dedicated connect. My question is, will PC being sending a FULL usenet feed over the bird? My friend tells me that they are currently bringing a bunch of the newsgroups but not all of them..he said around half..which has him at 100 megs (uncompressed) a day.. will pc be opening up a second channel for JUST usenet? cuz my friend went on to tell me the FULL feed is 200 megs (uncomp) a day Cheers, Ken ...And today will go down in history as Monday December 13 1993 --- GoldED/2 2.42.G1121 * Origin: Sound Stage BBS - Vancouvers Music HQ - 604/944-6476 (1:153/7070) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICHARD BASH Number: 1275 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/14/93 10:22p Subj: Routed netmail enroute Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BG> Well I have yet to see a reouted messages to me come BG> thru John's system to me. I pick all my routed mail up BG> from my hub. Dear Boyd: Sending you an echo routed netmail message tonight (Tuesday). Advise when and how you received it. Regards, Poor Richard... --- WM v2.09/91-0172 * Origin: Combat Arms BBS - Portland, OR - (503) 221-1777 (1:105/68) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN BIERRIE Number: 1276 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/14/93 7:12a Subj: grunged messages... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd Goodin, in a message to John Bierrie, you wrote: > I don't know if it's just me here, but we've been getting a number > of these grunged NetMail messages over the past week or so. For the most BG> I'm working on it. I think someone is just not being nice to me! Boyd, Hummm... If you happened to let slip "who" wasn't being nice, I'm sure we could come up with a "solution". :-)! John --- --- * Origin: Doc's Place BBS - Peoria, IL - 309-682-6560 (1:232/39) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BOB ROSS Number: 1277 To: GLEN DAVIS Date: 12/14/93 11:43a Subj: Testing, testing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glen! 13 Dec 93 18:59, Glen Davis wrote to All: GD> The dish is up, the cable is run, the meter reads "8+", the lights blink, GD> the mail tosses, the hard drive fills.... GD> ...now, any of this getting OUT? No. Your message must have just dropped out of the sky here in Calgary :-) Bob --- GoldED 2.41 * Origin: RJ's Byteline =[HST/DS]= (403) 247-3180 Calgary CANADA (1:134/75.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1278 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/14/93 7:54p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > GV> I run max, and used to run RA, and while max is fast, well > GV> fmail is way faster, I regularly used to toss 50 msgs a > GV> second, this including the unpacking time and everything, > GV> and now I am only getting about 10, and the fastest that I > > Thanks for the response Guy. I will look into RA. I run RA here and have a problem with it so far: 1) If you want all the message areas, you'll be limited to a mail processor that handles the JAM message base. I use Fmail which is not JAM yet and it is the one that he quoted doing 50 messages per second. With as much mail, as many downlinks as I have, and across an arcnet network, I average about 10 per second. Packing them back up takes forever, especially if another machine is hitting the server :( --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1279 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/14/93 7:56p Subj: RAID Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Is RAID shareware? If so where can I freq a copy, if not where > do I contact to get a copy? Right here: 1:3807/100 or 1:3807/101 Filename: RAID0108.LZH File Info: 101758 06-26-90 9:25p 24 hours per day, up to 14.4 v.32bis See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1280 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/14/93 5:39p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/13/93> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> I wrote myself a program, which takes all the JL> -> fileareas in the filebone.na and assigned a dirve:\directory JL> -> filearea# for wildcat and it reads each tic file for the area and JL> -> writes my wcff.cfg for that day and tosses them. JL> This program you wrote specific to YOUR system only? As it stands for now yes. I am trying to rewrite it to use a config file but haven't made much headway there yet. It is hard to imagine all the different ways it could go wrong and I haven't yet figured out how to read the confdesc.dat file for the information needed to make it work properly. Maybe the new WCFF 4.0 will do all this for us, the current one needs about 2 megs or more of conventional memory to do all the filebone at once. What a memory HOG it is. I also setup TIC 2.0 and it works fine but, the descriptions have to be imported so it is not the best ether. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * He said "ENQ?". "NAK!", she replied. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1281 To: TROLL Date: 12/14/93 9:00p Subj: Is anyone seeing this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Troll! In a message to All <12/10/93> Troll wrote: TT> TT> help!!!!! TT> --- FreeMail 1.09 TT> * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * TT> (1:3605/666) Seeing what. * WCE 1.10/2107 * Cogito ergo spud: I think therefore I yam. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALAN BENNETT Number: 1282 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/15/93 12:48a Subj: RE: SKYMAIL V1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 14 Dec 93 05:15am, GREG SHAFFER wrote to ALL: > Hello All! > Those of you are not real happy with PCUTIL or your own batchfile > implementations for handling the files coming in over the satellite > without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP > It was sent to Boyd at 3615/50 this morning for hatching or if you > want to get it sooner its availible for file request from 370/510 > anytime outside mail hour at HST or v32bis speeds. The file is 31k. > Features: > @ It -will- run under 4DOS (PCUTIL doesnt and thats why SKYMAIL > exists) > @ It optionally moves MAIL bundles and OTHER files to separate dirs > @ It allows you to specify files that you dont care if you get or not > so that you can go ahead and process when the ones you want come in > @ It transparently maintains SKYMAIL.IDX which is similar to CHECK.IDX > except it keeps the day recieved and filesize of each file also. > @ It logs files that were NOT recieved as well as those that were > @ It has an errorlevel for all MAIL -and- OTHER files recieved > @ It has an errorlevel for all MAIL files recieved > @ It has an errorlevel for all OTHER non-mail files recieved > @ It has a user definable time to exit with a specific errorlevel > which is handy for those who want to process things -once- a day > after a specific time regardless of whether everything was recieved > @ It actually has a SKYMAIL.DOC file that tells you something :) > @ It is FREEWARE :) Hello Greg... Where can I get a copy of Skymail? Sounds just like what I need.. Alan Bennett (TES SOFTWARE) ... Backup not found: (a)bort (r)etry (p)anic * Silver Xpress V4.00 SW12313 --- WM v3.10/93-1048 * Origin: Terminal Entry BBS * (910)895-0368 * 1:3634/32 (1:3634/32) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE SLOAN Number: 1283 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/14/93 12:01a Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec1400:01, Todd Lyons of 1:3807/100 writes: TL> Doesn't that slow the bbs down a little? 4 lines all TL> transmitting would certainly be affected by an inbound 38.4 TL> connection, wouldn't it? Not in the least - except for a user searching for messages in the bases of course. --- msgedsq/2 2.1 * Origin: Tech Talk Toll Wpg,MB(204)269-7373 HST/Dual (1:348/105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1284 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/14/93 4:57p Subj: .BAG FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > TM> Does anyone have or know of a utility that will parse the > TM> .BAG newsgroup files to 'forward' only those news groups of > TM> interest? I don't want to process several hundred newgroup > TM> areas a day when I am only interested in a couple dozen of > TM> them. > > just only put the groups you want in your mapfile, the resst will be > dumped.. if you are using fred. Nope, I use PIMP, which is an integrated optional module for TBBS. It also will send any non-defined newsgroups to nul but I don't want to waste bbs machine processor time sorting it all out. I'd rather process the .BAG files on a nanny machine quickly and give only newsgroups in .BAG format to my bbs machine to toss. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1285 To: ALL Date: 12/14/93 6:46p Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No This is just FYI for future reference: Awhile ago I mentioned an oddity I was having with the PC software always catching a bad block when I turned on my monitor for a quick look to see all was OK. It was my guess at the time it was a power supply problem or an anomoly in the video handling code. It was neither. I had my data receiver balanced on top of the monitor, an older Nec Multisync II, and the EMF surge caused a spurious bad block. Boyd suggested I move the receiver and try it -- problem corrected and chalk one up for Boyd. The data receiver eventually got moved over next to the bbs machine and the same thing popped up when the bbs hard drives got a good work out. The receiver is apparantly a sensitive little jasper and should be kept away from *any* possible EMF. If this keeps up I'll have to build a Faraday cage around it. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM HELTON Number: 1286 To: ALL Date: 12/16/93 7:49a Subj: Moving South Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hey folks, I'm moving from Atlanta to Miami. Can I use my 7 ft C-band system that far south? The video says that I'll need a 10 ft dish.... tim migrating moderator ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1287 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/15/93 3:36p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Patty Pickett to Rf Tolli <=- PP> Hi Tolli! Good to see you here. Guess y'all got home okay after PP> the BBS CON, eh? :) Hiya, Patty!! Grin- well, we DID get home... OK is open to discussion! <G> Nothing two or three weeks in hospital and a massive infusion of money wouldn't cure, I guess! Fortunately, the next one is in OUR neck of the woods (Maggie even has kin living in ATL), so we are getting our apps in for it early. I talked myself into this Fido thing because the PC beam even reached into our deep woods, but it's been... shall we say.. a *learning* experience! Even as I type this, I have no idea if it's going to go out... seems like some do, and some don't. sigh. -RFT- ... Running a BBS is like Russian Roulette with an automatic pistol. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1288 To: THOMAS HATTON Date: 12/15/93 3:39p Subj: Re: Is anyone seeing this Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Thomas Hatton to Troll <=- T> ! Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * TH> ^^^^^^^^^ TH> Sould I reply in brail?? Hee! The motto at our board is an old Southerism to the effect that "Even a blind hog finds an acorn eventually"- sorta describes how we work. -RF Tolli- AKA "Troll" ... Running a BBS is like stringing beads without a knot in the string. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1289 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/15/93 3:42p Subj: Re: AREAFIX AND PLANET CO Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Chuck Warren to Jim Dunmyer <=- CW> Chuck CW> p.s. Also have one to handle TIC files. THAT one I would love to have! -RFT- ... Running a BBS is like nailing Jello to a tree. ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1290 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/15/93 3:45p Subj: Re: Is anyone seeing this Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -=> Quoting Joe Lyda to Troll <=- TT> help!!!!! TT> ! Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * TT> (1:3605/666) JL> Seeing what. Sorry about that- a desparate plea to the electron gods, I guess. FD and I do *not* get along well! -RF Tolli- AKA "Troll" ... The mome rath never lived that could out-gabe ME! ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.11 --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL REEVES Number: 1291 To: GLEN DAVIS Date: 12/15/93 12:00p Subj: Testing, testing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GD>The dish is up, the cable is run, the meter reads "8+", the lights blink, th >mail tosses, the hard drive fills.... GD>...now, any of this getting OUT? GD> -Glen nope, but 4 out of 5 ain't bad Mike ■ QMPro 1.51 ■ He does the work of 3 Men...Moe, Larry & Curly --- WM v3.10/93-0334 * Origin: MIKE'S PLACE USR DS 16.8 (715 845-4802) (1:238/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1292 To: ALL Date: 12/14/93 1:59a Subj: GETTING OUT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 5/50 374/1 -=> Quoting Boyd Goodin to Rf Tolli <=- BG> Got you here.... Grin- thank god! This waiting two or three days to see if the latest tweak to the FD worked or not is sorta like playing handball without a wall! -RFT- --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1293 To: ALL Date: 12/14/93 2:20a Subj: OK Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No 374/1 one more test post- and, if this one makes it, a request for the sysop version of TVAgent. -RFT- --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RICK MORRIS Number: 1294 To: JIM WATSON Date: 12/15/93 10:51a Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> Betcha if I sent a standard routed netmail out of >> here you'll get it from >> John's system... -:) > BG> > BG> If John does not have me in his routing statement I bet it wont! > If I send it to 3615/50, and route via John, betcha it will -:) Jim: The star hubs send all routed netmail via the region hubs... Rick --- GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Connection 4.6 Gig On-line (513) 393-0075 (1:2350/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1295 To: THOMAS HATTON Date: 12/15/93 3:58p Subj: Is anyone seeing this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Thomas Hatton wrote in a message to Troll: T> * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * TH> ^^^^^^^^^ TH> Sould I reply in brail?? That's "Braille"... Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1296 To: ANTONIO RIVEROS Date: 12/15/93 10:28p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Antonio Riveros wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: AR> I am using Wildcat 3.90. I use wildmail to toss echomail, AR> and am setting up WILDUUCP to toss the newsgroups. For the AR> BBS is all depends on the software you want. I am a diehard AR> wildcat person and you could not convince me to switch to AR> something like maximus. But will it let you set up over 7,000 areas? This is what it will come down to when Boyd feeds us the Newsgroups. And is it fast for the 666 (nice number) fido areas we now have? Is there a built in QWK mail function or a door that will let you have this many areas? Once, a long time ago, I considered using Wildcat and the reason I decided not to is that the file search function is s...l...o...w! If it were faster, (9 cd-rom drives) I might have gone with it. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1297 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/15/93 10:33p Subj: Hello Out There! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Glenn Vermette wrote in a message to All: GV> This is a test message to see if I get any response. Hi Glen, you have made it to Ocean City, NJ (near the beach) with some severe winds and lottsa rain! No errors here with a 3 ft. KU! Good work PC! GV> Now that the hard part is done, I hope this is making its GV> way back out onto the backbone. Not on the backbone, but in this conference at least! ;-) Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1298 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/15/93 10:37p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: TL> I run RA here and have a problem with it so far: TL> 1) If you want all the message areas, you'll be limited to TL> a mail processor that handles the JAM message base. I use TL> Fmail which is not JAM yet and it is the one that he quoted TL> doing 50 messages per second. With as much mail, as many TL> downlinks as I have, and across an arcnet network, I average TL> about 10 per second. Packing them back up takes forever, TL> especially if another machine is hitting the server :( I freq'd RA 2.01 and thought it looked pretty good. I am glad you told me this. Well Maximus isn't the prettiest BBS around, but it seems to fit our needs. I suppose aside from these few mentioned BBS programs, PCBoard may be a 1/2 decent alternative. I just hate spending money on software when it can be used for hardware. I would need to purchase a PcBoard/M, FidoPcb, fido-uucp, etc., However, it looks like it is Max in the running. Anyone else care to enlighten us as to what problems or successes<sp> you are coming accross with your current configuration? I was surprised to see Patty Pickett go from RBBS to Searchlight and now to Maximus. Perhaps she shares my views. Thanks for the response Todd, it really is helping me to gather this data! :-) Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DANA HUGGARD Number: 1299 To: ALL Date: 12/12/93 12:00a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I have no messages here? I am connected? ____ \TF/ TERRA-FIRMA-BBS / Serving the Amiga Community. \/ FidoNet 1:153/765.0 LDSHub - AmigaNet 40:800/765.0 (ADS/SAN) Internet: Dana_Huggard@tfbbs.Wimsey.COM --- DLG Pro v1.0/DLGMail v2.52 * Origin: TERRA FIRMA BBS (1:153/765) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1300 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/15/93 10:59p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ervin! In a message to Jim Dunmyer <12/13/93> Ervin Jay wrote: EJ> Hello Jim! EJ> Friday December 10 1993, Jim Dunmyer writes to Keith Sippy: EJ> JD> Now, to get AREAFIX to automatically update the AREAS.BBS when EJ> JD> unrecognized areas arrive. I'm told that that's possible. EJ> Does AreaFIX not have a "NewAreaCreate" verb?? For Squish but for Gomail it does not create it correctly. If anyone has a version of AREAFIX that does then give info on where I can freq it. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Stand back! It's a Beta! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1301 To: FRED SEIBEL Date: 12/15/93 11:03p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Fred! In a message to Jim Dunmyer <12/13/93> Fred Seibel wrote: FS> Yes, Areafix can be set up to add, delete and pass on any and all FS> echo requests automatically. FS> We did that on 107/33 when the net approved picking up the entire FS> Fidonet.na from George Peace. (13/13 or 270/101). FS> Worked just fine. FS> We are now using it to link and de-link active areas from FS> our Plannet Connect down link. FS> This same system will be used when I am ready to accept FS> links to Rhub 13/24 (107/33). Fred could you put AREAFIX and your AREAFIX.CTL file where I can freq it for me. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Coffee sweetened with NO-DOZ...Programmers petro! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1302 To: GLEN DAVIS Date: 12/15/93 11:08p Subj: Testing, testing... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glen! In a message to All <12/13/93> Glen Davis wrote: GD> GD> The dish is up, the cable is run, the meter reads "8+", the lights blink, GD> mail tosses, the hard drive fills.... GD> ...now, any of this getting OUT? Got it here in ALMOST Middle Tennessee. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Always assume the second try will be different. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1303 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/15/93 11:11p Subj: Please Send TVAGENT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ron! In a message to Boyd Goodin <12/13/93> Ron Brandt wrote: RB> Please add me to the list for a mailed copy of TVAGENT What mailed TVAGENT? Is there a change that has slipped past me? Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * John Wayne would have used WcEDIT! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1304 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/15/93 11:17p Subj: Hello Out There! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Glenn! In a message to All <12/13/93> Glenn Vermette wrote: GV> This is a test message to see if I get any response. GV> Got the satellite dish working yesterday and have been getting complete GV> error-free reception, even during the heavy, heavy rain (40-50 mm yesterd GV> with dense cloud and fog. I'm somewhat impressed! GV> Now that the hard part is done, I hope this is making its way back out on GV> the backbone. GV> Anyone see this yet? See what??<G> Oh ya I see it now here in next to Middle Tennesee. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * 90% of being smart is knowing what you're dumb at. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1305 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/15/93 11:50p Subj: Re: .qwk packets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Thomas Beal <12/13/93> John Jamieson wrote: JJ> TB> Does anyone out there have a .qwk packet to Hudson or JAM messag JJ> TB> base converter? Someone told me that a program called Fred Gate JJ> TB> works? I'm running Remote Access 2.01 Pro 10. Thanks. JJ> You can Freq MKNET100.ARJ from 1:216/506 at speeds to 14400. Tried to freq the above file and got ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ ║ M O U N T A I N R E T R E A T ║ ║ ║ ║ *** B B S *** ║ ║ ║ ║ (408)335-4595 Felton California Fido Net 1:216/506 ║ ║ ║ ╠═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╣ ║ Only files that are Home Based at Mt. Retreat and ║ ║ BBS/BBS_support files are FREQ'ABLE from Mountain ║ ║ Retreat. ║ ║ ║ ║ Freq FILES for a list of those FREQ'ABLE Files or Freq ║ ║ one or all of the following for a list of files ║ ║ available for Download when logged on Mountain Retreat. ║ ║ ║ ║ FILELIST.ARJ Main Board Files ║ ║ FILELST2.ARJ Art Conference Files ║ ║ FILELST3.ARJ Programming Conference Files ║ ║ FILELST4.ARJ Ham Radio/ TVRO/ Electronics Files ║ ║ ║ ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ What gives. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * If it is not ready to freq then send it. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1306 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/15/93 11:41p Subj: RAID Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/14/93> Todd Lyons wrote: TL> > Is RAID shareware? If so where can I freq a copy, if not where TL> > do I contact to get a copy? TL> Right here: 1:3807/100 or 1:3807/101 TL> Filename: RAID0108.LZH TL> File Info: 101758 06-26-90 9:25p Got it coming in at 14.4 right now. Thanks * WCE 1.10/2107 * Artificial Intelligence: The other guy's opinion. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1307 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/15/93 10:47p Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Tracy! 14 Dec 93, Tracy Mickley writes to All: TM> receiver is apparantly a sensitive little jasper and should be kept away TM> from *any* possible EMF. If this keeps up I'll have to build a Faraday TM> cage around it. You obviously didn't read the fine print on the back of the installation instructions [laughing].... you know.. the part about the Faraday cage, the salt pit and the 18 ft ground stakes. :-)) Dennis ps: sorry, I just couldn't resist. --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1308 To: <YOU DUDE(ETTE)> Date: 12/14/93 2:56p Subj: Notice Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Carving sound you heard was a letter being written for <You! ┌──[I am back Finally] │ └── Most of you have been waiting for the new revisions of the: "Off the Wall Software" December 1st my System crashed - loosing practically everything... I have lost the last 2 weeks of the feeds due to a harddrive deciding that is no longer wanted to be seen... outta of anger I just formatted it, and all the other drives. But I am back.... *************************************************************[Notification]** Producation has has came to an end for the following: (Ready for use!) A2C_OTW.EXE - Areas Listings to CNAMES.@@@ for PCBoard 14.5 to 15.1ß * it does almost everything for you, except make the MSGS.xxx and the paths - I let PCBSETUP do that for you! RTP.EXE - Tic Processor of the 90's! Simple to use, and offers so much more than the TIC processors out there! The "MAIN" benefits are (2)... (1). Your OutBound TIC's are sent from your online BBS Directories! No need for a BBS copy and an OUTBOUND copy! (2). RTP comes in two flavors - importer for your BBS only, and a HUB version for us with the Satellite that use some form of CRP. This will generate TKxxxxxx.RTP files that only RTP will process. Thus people can get TICs from us, and then re- distribute it out to others free... Works with: PCBOARD 12.0 - 15.1ß RA (All Versions) QBBS (2.xx and up Versions) TBBS (All Versions) * Testing: TurBoard, Renegard/Telegard, WildCat. The Following is in development: NEWS2TXT.EXE- Used for those of us that have no earthly idea how UUCP works! I simply read a newsgrp file, make a "standard looking" TEXT, and then generates a batchfile for H.EXE (Harvey's XRobot!) * Final Version will not require H.EXE - and will do exporting (But I will need some information from a UUCP Guru before I am 100% ready to release this one on you guys!) PCBYTOSS.EXE- 16/32Bit Tosser for PCBOARD! (Also Supports: Hudson, Jam, and Squish) (GoldBase is in design also). *************************************************************[END OF NOTE.]** OZZ --- Moderation (v)erb - to limit!!! * Origin: >uSr_dS< 14.4k - i.e. (!<9600) (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1309 To: <YOU DUDE(ETTE)> Date: 12/14/93 9:57p Subj: UUCP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Carving sound you heard was a letter being written for <You! Well this may be an old question... but... Can anyone give me the full scoop on the echos from the DISH? a. I am importing all the nets, but who do I send them back to? b. Is there any detailed information on where to send the UUCP stuff back up to? I tried using fred as a tosser - got ticked cuz I never did UUCP and didn't understand anything I was reading... So I am writing my own convertor, but where do I address the outbound stuff to? (Need help majorly on this!) c. Last time I was in the echo (prior to my crash), we all talked about starting a "file echo" for PC_Utils that we all have written. What is the status of this? d. Why do we have to keep the TVAGENT stuff so secretive? I didn't see anything in there that was proprietary. So why not a (Encryption to ASCII) for people to download or view online? e. Who all is running PCBoard with the DISH? I have been writing things left and right for PCB, and want to know if there are any other utils I forgot to put in my package... OZZ ERROR 1701 - Your hard drive croaked!! --- Moderation (v)erb - to limit!!! * Origin: >uSr_dS< 14.4k - i.e. (!<9600) (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1310 To: JAMES MCORMOND Date: 12/15/93 10:42a Subj: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello James! 12 Dec 93 20:45, James McOrmond wrote to Jim Watson: JM> In a message of Th 09-Dec-93 21:57, Jim Watson wrote: JW> BH>> Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party JW>> They should be coming over the dish...... JM> Doesn't seem that they are. Anybody know why? I know that we are NOT getting them here over the dish.... Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BRIAN HESS Number: 1311 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/15/93 10:47a Subj: ZyXELnet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Boyd! 07 Dec 93 23:26, Brian Hess wrote to Boyd Goodin: BH> Hello Boyd! BH> Area ZYXELROM 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZYXEL Firmware BH> Area ZYXTEXT 0 ! ZyXELNET: ZyXEL Text Files BH> Area ZYXTOOL 0 ! ZYXELNET: ZyXEL 3rd Party Tools BH> ; Info File: ZYXELNET.* BH> ; North America ZyXBONE HQ: Patrick Martin 1:102/825 BH> ; Suggested Conf: ZYXEL (backbone) could you PLEASE check your up link and make sure the above is turn on...I have not received any files in the above areas off the dish. I know some have been released recently.... Let me know if need any more info... thanks a lot.. Thank you, Brian --- FastEcho 1.30g+ From STARBASE 8 * Origin: StarBase 8 (803)268-8679 Taylors, SC (1:3639/19) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LYON Number: 1312 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/15/93 11:05p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Maybe the new WCFF 4.0 will do all this for us, the current one -> needs about 2 megs or more of conventional memory to do all the -> filebone at once. What a memory HOG it is. I also setup TIC 2.0 -> and it works fine but, the descriptions have to be imported so it -> is not the best ether. I found that out also. The best I can do is about 70% of the filebone. I can't figure out why WCFF only uses 250k and the config file is only 56k and it locks up unless I edit the config back down to about 36k....this is in a 622k box also. Course I'm not a programmer either. --- WM v3.10/92-0069 * Origin: The Outer Limits 3 Nodes 2.6 (1:2380/400) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JASON FESLER Number: 1313 To: TROLL Date: 12/15/93 4:25p Subj: Getting Out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Something's wrong here.. Troll babbled profusely in a message to All: -=> Quoting Boyd Goodin to Rf Tolli <=- BG> Got you here.... T> Grin- thank god! This waiting two or three days to see if T> the latest tweak to the FD worked or not is sorta like T> playing handball without a wall! T> -RFT- T> --- FreeMail 1.09 T> * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * T> 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1314 To: ALAN BENNETT Date: 12/15/93 3:55p Subj: RE: SKYMAIL V1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Alan Bennett wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: AB> On 14 Dec 93 05:15am, GREG SHAFFER wrote to ALL: > Hello All! > Those of you are not real happy with PCUTIL or your own batchfile > implementations for handling the files coming in over the satellite > without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP > It was sent to Boyd at 3615/50 this morning for hatching or if you > want to get it sooner its availible for file request from 370/510 > anytime outside mail hour at HST or v32bis speeds. The file is 31k. AB> Where can I get a copy of Skymail? Sounds just like what I AB> need.. Well.....you might try reading what you quoted.....:) greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ALAN BENNETT Number: 1315 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 12/15/93 7:19a Subj: RE: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No On 12 Dec 93 09:28pm, JACOBO ODUBER wrote to RUDOLF ROTHEMUND: > To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND > Subject: TIC's RR>> RR>> I noticed that you started sending a filebond file and then it's RR>>accompanying TIC file. THANK YOU. That will solve some problems! RR>> RR>> Any "official" news on the Newsgroups yet? I guess I need to know is RR>>what kind of software will I need to run. A gateway program such as RR>>Fredmail (I run a Wildcat BBS)? RR>> RR>> Once we get those, we'll write some programs to pull the mail from RR>>the computers, check to see if it is all there (TIC'S and files), and RR>>then toss them as they come in. As it is now, a programmer named Mark RR>>Gibson has written a program called PCHECK, which checks all the files RR>> RR>> Rudolf Rothemund NC/NEC Net 2440 > Rudolf, > I see you are also running a Wildcat BBS. We just changed from RA to > Wildcat because of RA's limitations on the message base. I am still > looking for a good TIC file processor that will interface with Wildcat. > I have a registered copy of ALLFIX here, but have not been able to get > it to add files to my message base automatically. > What program are you using as the TIC fileprocessor? If it is available > for Freq, let me know. > Thanks > Jacobo Hello Jacobo WCFF will probaly fit the bill for you nicely.. Mike Ortiz is working on one himself that will probaly be out soon.. it carries a $25 registration fee. Alan Bennett (TES SOFTWARE) ... --T-A+G-L-I+N-E--+M-E-A+S-U-R+I-N-G+--G-A+U-G-E-- * Silver Xpress V4.00 SW12313 --- WM v3.10/93-1048 * Origin: Terminal Entry BBS * (910)895-0368 * 1:3634/32 (1:3634/32) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1316 To: JOHN LYON Date: 12/16/93 10:03p Subj: Newcomer! :) Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/15/93> John Lyon wrote: JL> -> Maybe the new WCFF 4.0 will do all this for us, the current one JL> -> needs about 2 megs or more of conventional memory to do all the JL> -> filebone at once. What a memory HOG it is. I also setup TIC 2.0 JL> -> and it works fine but, the descriptions have to be imported so it JL> -> is not the best ether. JL> I found that out also. The best I can do is about 70% of the JL> filebone. I can't figure out why WCFF only uses 250k and the config JL> file is only 56k and it locks up unless I edit the config back down JL> to about 36k....this is in a 622k box also. Course I'm not a JL> programmer either. Well I an not a programer ether, but with what is coming in daily it is working unattended as of now. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * If we don't succeed, we run the risk of failure --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FLOYD DRENNON Number: 1317 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/07/93 8:50p Subj: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Boyd, 07 Dec 93, 00:57, Boyd Goodin wrote to Jim Watson: BG> That I have no problem with as long as they go to John. If they BG> end up in my netmail area I will delete them. I realize you're up against a stiff learning curve, but, had anyone in your organization ever been involved in moving echomail before? This isn't meant to be a smartass question, it's just that some of the answers I'm seeing don't indicate even a basic knowledge of routing and how it works. --- Squish v1.01 * Origin: FLOYD'S FOLLY, Deatsville, AL HST-v.terbo, Net375 NEC (1:375/14) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS BEAL Number: 1318 To: ALL Date: 12/09/93 7:04p Subj: .qwk packets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Does anyone out there have a .qwk packet to Hudson or JAM message base converter? Someone told me that a program called Fred Gate works? I'm running Remote Access 2.01 Pro 10. Thanks. --- GEcho 1.01+Nice2Cya! * Origin: Earth Station Alpha * Co Springs, CO * (719) 636-8979 (1:128/135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RF TOLLI Number: 1319 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/09/93 11:35a Subj: Is this getting out Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No I hate FD!!! Let's see if this makes it out to TN- if it does, We are finally connected to Planet Connect. -RFT- --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon * Crawfordville, FL * 904-926-7185 * (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARK ADKINS Number: 1320 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/17/93 1:28p Subj: Re: routed netmail Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Kyle please freq PCINFO.TXT from our saystem and it will tell you -> the cost and services availible to you over the satellite. I know you have a 7.5 C-band and a 3 foot Ku band. Do you have a 4 foot Ku band too? Merry Christmas! --- DB 1.52-OS/2/001251 * Origin: Blue Lake Systems 503-656-9790 - 5 Nodes - 6 Gigs (1:105/285) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1321 To: SEAN PEOPLES Date: 12/17/93 11:28p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 11 20:57>, Sean Peoples writes: SP>In addition to several changes to the EMSI logic, log any EMSI keyword we SP>don't understand. This will be instrumental in figuring out why we still SP>occasionally have EMSI parsing problems with some D'Bridge systems. Oh, that. It only applies to certain unrecognized EMIS sequences that result in a lose of EMSI header info. The connects still occur and run fine. Many of us have been feeding Vince info on this trying to find the right set of parameters. I'm beginning to think the problem with connecting to Boyd may be ISDN related. The CONNECT 38400 back to Bink seems to adjust some of the timers. Boyd's system is responding slowly for some reason (probably LAN related) and Bink doesn't wait long enough to negotiate the session. Hopefully Vince is working on that as well. Thanks D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1322 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/17/93 11:35p Subj: Re: Echo's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 12 22:03>, Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Now Dave remember. I am not from here. The closest we can get BG>to that lemonaid is Newfoundland screech and that use to burn my BG>stomach. Stomach?!?! You still got a stomach? Soft stuff, eh. Tenn Lemonaid is the best ulcer cure around.... after the first fifth you don't have a stomach left. :-) --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1323 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/17/93 11:37p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 12 22:07>, Boyd Goodin writes: BG> Well thats because we wanted everyone to get aqqainted with BG>thier equipment. If we told you how to put it together then it BG>take all the fun out of learning what it does.;-) Certainly did a number on me. :-) I'z not be educated, but I'z experienced! BTW, after several days... and nights of playing; I still think the dish needs a little fine tuning. I get occassional errors just running virgin Dos on a buffered comm port. I thought it may just cloud layer related, but when it cleared up today, the signal meter didn't change any. I may need to adjust the polarizer some. Running under Desqview doesn't seem to phase it one bit. I can have several windows open running various programs... except Windoze, that's instant death.... and it keep chugging along with no more errors than before. There is a limit though, it wouldn't run peacefully on the ISDN machine. :-) However any sizable network transfer wipes it out in a heatbeat. The blocks quit counting and I have to recycle the program to restart it. Doesn't look like it recognizes or recovers from Uart overruns. Loading X00 with large receive buffers helped quite a bit. Had to recapture the Int-14 each recycle. However, it would still get loads of errors but only occassionally lockup even with X00 loaded. I think this may be related to the NIC I'm using. The 3Com card uses block IO and it may be shutting off the interupts too long while doing XMS transfers. As soon as I have time, I'll rotate cards around with one that uses port IO and see what happens. In any case these are easily worked around problems, and usually within two downlink cycles the file list is complete. I'll have more time to play this weekend. More later. D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1324 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/18/93 12:24a Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a msg on <Dec 12 22:07>, Boyd Goodin writes: > It wasn't Bink, it was ClassAxe. I've since gotten a new version of Bink > and I'll try it out in the next day or so to make sure all works. Will > advise. BG> BG> Funny how I could connect with you at anytime. BG> From the symptoms, I'd venture a guess that you're running the D'bridge nodes on network workstations, likely diskless accessing a relatively busy server. Nodelists, etc are shared over the network. (How close am I?) It seems that D'bridge answers the line, receives the EMSI packet from the caller and then has to access the server for nodelist and security files. Those extra few seconds (10-15) seem to be too long for Bink, it gives up and times out. Why I don't know. When you call me, the information to establish a session is already accessed by the calling node and thus there are no delays. Either that or bink handles the inbound different than the outbound. I've got a list of things to check on.... someday.... D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN LUNDELL Number: 1325 To: ALL Date: 12/17/93 5:56p Subj: ILinks says hey... Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just got off the ILink (HUB) BBS and he says they are waiting on Planet Systems for their net to get going.. he said to ask "whats up" <G> and see how things are going.. there are some of us really awaitin on ILink (RIMEnet too!) <G> --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: City Lites BBS (701) 775-1143 HST/DS/V.32bis (1:14/644) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1326 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/17/93 3:13a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello JOE! Wednesday December 15 1993, JOE LYDA writes to ERVIN JAY: EJ>> Does AreaFIX not have a "NewAreaCreate" verb?? JL> For Squish but for Gomail it does not create it correctly. If JL> anyone has a version of AREAFIX that does then give info on where JL> I can freq it. Ahh, I see the problem..... I would doubt there is an Areafix for GoMail.... It is unfortunate that it is not an Areafix cfriendly mail processor as NewAreasCreate is nice option to have... Cheers, Ervin ... Do married women make the best wives? --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PC-WorkShop * Vancouver * BC, Can * 3 Lines * (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERVIN JAY Number: 1327 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/17/93 3:13a Subj: RAID Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Todd! Tuesday December 14 1993, Todd Lyons writes to JOE LYDA: TL> Right here: 1:3807/100 or 1:3807/101 TL> Filename: RAID0108.LZH TL> File Info: 101758 06-26-90 9:25p File: RAID0123.ZIP 132,675 4-10-92 Desc: Raid v1.23 - AreaFix-like Program for Tick. (w/ Raid 1.08 Docs) Cheers, Ervin ... If you cannot convince them, confuse them. --- Binkley\Squish\REC\Maximus\Golded - What a Team! * Origin: The PCWorkShop * 2400 153/798 * 16.8DS 153/797 * 14.4HST (1:153/767) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM BROWN Number: 1328 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/17/93 8:42a Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No GS>Hello All! GS>Those of you are not real happy with PCUTIL or your own batchfile GS>implementation s for handling the files coming in over the satellite GS>without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP Looks good! Unfortunately I would have to run PCUTIL with it as PCUTIL has a very nice echo processing option: NEXTx which allows me to place my mail bundles in an intermediate directory and move them a few at a time for unpacking. This allows me never have to worry about running out of work space. My system has to toss to .msg format before messages are imported to a database. The .msg messages are then deleted. If I unpack more than 4 or 5 of the mail bundles at a time, I have to plan for more drive space. It would be nice for the missed files to also be written to a second log so that it could be processed as file request automatically. -Tim --- * Origin: National Shareware Library (tm) (1:238/501) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1329 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/17/93 1:41p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to Todd Lyons: RH> glad you told me this. Well Maximus isn't the prettiest BBS RH> around, but it seems to fit our needs. I also run Maximus because it fits my need but if you want to look into another (prettier) bbs you may checkout Proboard. Proboard can use the Squish message base and with a little tweaking it can even use the Bluewave offline reader door for Maximus. I ran Proboard with Maximus and gave my callers the option until I connected with PC and ran out of disk space. I could no longer afford to give the callers two bbs's and include a large number of conferences. I suppose the reason I decided to keep Maximus rather than Proboard is because I had some kind of bug that cause EVERY user to have to hit the back space twice EVERY time they logged on in order to remove an "0n" that was automatically written in their name. It seemed that NO other Proboard sysop had ever had this problem and no one knew what could be done to eliminate it. I got tired of going through the users data base and removing the "0nJoe Blow" names. It is truly a shame that an author would work so hard and successfully develop such an excellent bbs and have it dumped because of a little problem like this. Proboard had the _FASTEST_ file search indexing feature I have ever seen. Running 8 cd rom drives was no problem. --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1330 To: ROGER MORRIS Date: 12/17/93 4:46p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Roger Morris wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: RM> Robert Hilgar scripted in a message to Todd Lyons: RH> Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: TL> I use TL> Fmail which is not JAM yet and it is the one that he quoted TL> doing 50 messages per second. With as much mail, as many TL> downlinks as I have, and across an arcnet network, I average TL> about 10 per second. RM> My record for Squish is 183 msgs/sec under DOS. That's with RM> a highly tweaked 486-33 operating as a peer server. My goal RM> is 200, but I've got other things to work on right now: with RM> everything located on a Novell server, I'm currently pushing RM> 40 msgs/sec. HOW DID YOU GET UP to 183 msgs/sec.. that's unbelievable, i believe that that would be faster than my system to write to the hard drive. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1331 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/17/93 4:47p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greg Shaffer wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: GS> Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to Antonio Riveros: RH> Antonio Riveros wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: AR> I am using Wildcat 3.90. I use wildmail to toss echomail, AR> and am setting up WILDUUCP to toss the newsgroups. For the AR> BBS is all depends on the software you want. I am a diehard AR> wildcat person and you could not convince me to switch to AR> something like maximus. RH> But will it let you set up over 7,000 areas? This is what it RH> will come down to when Boyd feeds us the Newsgroups. And is GS> Who on earth told you there were 7000 newsgroups? well if you have 5400 + 600 fido, you get 6000, not 7000 but still close. I still hold fast to the 5400 newsgroups, although some are regionals, but we might as well get a full feed. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1332 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/17/93 1:23a Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > The receiver is apparantly a sensitive little jasper and should be kept > away from *any* possible EMF. If this keeps up I'll have to build a > Faraday cage around it. FWIW, I have my receiver above two computers and below a monitor. I just don't get any errors. I have the C band receiver. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1333 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/17/93 1:29a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > well i wouldn't ever import the whole backbone into any message base, I > don't have that kind of space, you would need what 40 megs just each day > for the mail after it's uncompressed? Well I always try to keep 60 megs free on my processing drive. It's quite a load on the system. I may not necessarily try to import everything but everything is eligible to be a passthough, and regardless of that, ALL will be unpacked. I still love Fmail, I'm just getting a little impatient because I *DO* want ALL of the backbone available to be read without any screwedup kludges and that won't happen until JAM comes out <sigh> See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TODD LYONS Number: 1334 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/17/93 1:33a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I was surprised to see Patty Pickett go from RBBS to Searchlight and now > to Maximus. Perhaps she shares my views. Patty has good taste. Had I not found RA, I would have been running Max. Max is quite simply, one of the most configurable and flexible bbs's I have ever seen (second only to RA ;) My only complaint about RA is that it didn't support *.MSG in addition to HMB. They did come out with JAM, but the echomail authors are slow to write a mail processor that supports it because of various programming headaches. I'd still consider RA a viable alternative because: 1) Fastecho supports JAM which means you can carry all 666 Backboned echos. 2) You can run Waffle as a door to RA and have access to ALL of the Internet echos that will be coming over. See ya Todd --- Fmail.96+/RA-Pro/IM * Origin: Lyons' Den BBS Downlinking Fidonet-Satellite Style! (1:3807/100) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1335 To: ALAN BENNETT Date: 12/17/93 6:41a Subj: RE: TIC'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->> Rudolf, ->> I see you are also running a Wildcat BBS. We just changed from RA to ->> Wildcat because of RA's limitations on the message base. I am still ->> looking for a good TIC file processor that will interface with Wildcat. ->> I have a registered copy of ALLFIX here, but have not been able to get ->> it to add files to my message base automatically. ->Hello Jacobo -> WCFF will probaly fit the bill for you nicely.. Mike Ortiz is working on one -> himself that will probaly be out soon.. it carries a $25 registration fee. You can use either TICK/ALLFIX and still process files into WildCat! using WCFILE. I am finishing up a program (WCTICK) that writes the batch file to run WCFILE automatically. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1336 To: CHRIS OSBORNE Date: 12/17/93 8:52p Subj: Re: AREAFIX AND PLANET C Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> -> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS that included -> Chuck, When you get it cleaned up would ya post where you hatched it -> or put it up available for FREQ? It would be most appreciated by al -> I'm sure. Sure will....it basically compares your current AREAS.BBS file to the text file (FIDONET.??) and adds any that aren't already in there, makes them 'P' passthru, and adds address 1:3615/50. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 1337 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/17/93 9:26a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I wrote a program that will do it in about 15-20 seconds. Let me > clean it up and I ?hatch? it to somewhere. How about comparing the old areas.bbs to a new one and then adding the new or deleting any areas no longer in fidonet.na? and at the same time doing it's thing with fidonet.no?? One of my problems is the new areas and the filebone messsage areas, still. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: LAZ GOTTLI Number: 1338 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/17/93 9:28a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > processor that handles the JAM message base. I use Fmail which is not > JAM yet and it is the one that he quoted doing 50 messages per second. > With as much mail, as many downlinks as I have, and across an arcnet > network, I average about 10 per second. Packing them back up takes > forever, especially if another machine is hitting the server :( Yes I was watching last night as well. I know I am dropping pkzip 2.04 and moving back to 1.10 as it appears the zipping is taking fo ever. TTYL Laz --- * Origin: The TERMINAL BBS Lethbridge, AB. CANADA [403]327-9731 (1:358/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ZACH LOWRY Number: 1339 To: DSPD58B@PRODIGY.COM Date: 12/16/93 9:45a Subj: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Just Testing To See If I Can Write You A Message. My Mom Says Hi. She also hopes your back start feeling better. C-YA :) :) --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RUSSELL NABER Number: 1340 To: ALL Date: 12/17/93 7:55a Subj: Questions Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello All! Is anybody running the Planet Connect software with OS2? If so can you netmail me with your phone number, I wish to contact somebody that can provide me with some before you buy advice. Russell --- GoldED 2.40+ * Origin: BLACK DIAMOND BBS, GILLETTE WY , 307-682-6944 (1:15/24) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: THOMAS CHRISTOPH Number: 1341 To: ALL Date: 12/17/93 11:45p Subj: USENET News Feeds Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello! I heard that there is going to be a full Usenet news feed on here in January. Is this correct? If so, what will be involved in getting that feed through the Planet Connect system? ...Thomas --- FidoPCB v1.4 [ff242/x] * Origin: DIGITAL EXPERIENCE * 403-459-6094 * (1:342/86) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1342 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 12/17/93 7:10p Subj: NOTICE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > RTP.EXE - Tic Processor of the 90's! Simple to use, and Is this FREQ'able? --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TRACY MICKLEY Number: 1343 To: LANCE TAYLOR-WARREN Date: 12/17/93 7:18p Subj: .BAG FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >TM> Does anyone have or know of a utility that will parse the .BAG >TM> newsgroup files to 'forward' only those news groups of interest? >TM> I don't want to process several hundred newgroup areas a day when >TM> I am only interested in a couple dozen of them. Thanks... > > Fredgate (fred-uf) will process the .bag's and only save those areas > that are > defined in the active.map file. The rest are dumpped. Works rather > well. FREQ fqconfig.zip from my system for sample batch files and > configs. I'll FREQ it from you and have a look. Thanks for the offer. In the meantime I've written a utility that will process a .bag file and create a new .bag file containing only those newsgroups I want. Very simple and *SLOW*. I'll want to tweak it for a bit just out of principle at this point. --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: FlatLand BBS Fargo,ND 1-701-239-6048 (1:288/6) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN BEGGS Number: 1344 To: ALL Date: 12/17/93 9:31a Subj: planet wide? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Is this echo broadcast across the globe? I've only seen some messages from a fairly limited geographical area. Oh, by the way: Hi. I'm new. Heh Ta! --- Maximus/2 2.01wb * Origin: *NETWORK23 WINNIPEG,MB (204) 275-1532 5 LINES* (89:720/203) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1345 To: JEFF CAMERON Date: 12/17/93 5:33p Subj: Msgtoss Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I'm gonna have one of them there satellite receivers before christmas, > and was wondering if your still running rbbs and using msgtoss for the > mail. Hi Jeff, I think you'll be happy with the services from Planet Connect. Which dish are you gonna be running? Haven't run RBBS for about a year and a half now and I never ran MsgToss. Remember, I was the RBBSMAIL beta & distribution point? <g> --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1346 To: MARTIN BELCKE Date: 12/17/93 5:34p Subj: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > It'll probably shiver a bit. Might want to put a stocking cap on it. > You could even paint a couple of eyes, a nose and a mouth on it and > makeit look like a big face looking skyward.... <snicker> Good idea, Martin, maybe paint a big mouth on it around where the feed horn points. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1347 To: GLENN VERMETTE Date: 12/17/93 5:36p Subj: Hello Out There! Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Anyone see this yet? Nope, didn't see it here in Shreveport, LA, Glenn. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1348 To: LARRY JAMES Date: 12/17/93 5:39p Subj: Re: Test message Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > the dish site Satruday and never looked at it. I was to busy installing > Allfix to send me all the file goodness that G3 can produce. At a 43+ > degree latitude I doubt if the snow will effect it much anyway Sounds great to me, Larry. Thanks for the information. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: PATTY PICKETT Number: 1349 To: TROLL Date: 12/17/93 5:40p Subj: Re: New Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > Grin- well, we DID get home... OK is open to discussion! <G> Nothing > two or three weeks in hospital and a massive infusion of money > wouldn't cure, I guess! Look for netmail from me, Tolli, I gotta hear about this trip home you had. Sounds like a trip from hell. --)@ Patty @(-- --- InterMail 2.25 * Origin: MSG Resources - Shreveport, LA (1:380/5.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN JAMIESON Number: 1350 To: ALL Date: 12/17/93 11:50a Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet Connect. PK361 dosen't want to do it. John --- QuickBBS 2.76a * Origin: Mt. Retreat * Felton Ca * 408-335-4595 (1:216/506) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 1351 To: RUDOLF ROTHEMUND Date: 12/16/93 12:07a Subj: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No RR> RR>Hello. I like Wildcat, too! RR> RR> I use WCFILE to import my files from the Filebone area intp my RR>Wildcat message bases. What I did was to wrote a batch file that tests RR>for the presence of the FILES.BBS created TIC when it processses a TIC RR>file, and when it finds the file the batch file runs WCFILE. RR> RR> Hope this helps. If not, call my BBS and leave me a message and I'll RR>go into more detail. Rudolf I'll definitely be trying your batch file after doing some modifications to it. I didn't realize that you can put command line options for WCFILE. If all else fails I'll request some more info through netmail. BTW, what filelisting program do you recommend for WC? so that I can have my users download a complete filelisting of what's available. Thanks for the info Jacobo ■ HOT@AUA ■ ...Tag line continued from previous message --- WM v3.10 [Eval]/93-8511 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS, Aruba (1:18/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JACOBO ODUBER Number: 1352 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/16/93 12:22a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No CW>->Keith, CW>-> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS that included all t CW>->areas. Took about an hour and a half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), and CW>->my downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. CW> CW> I wrote a program that will do it in about 15-20 seconds. Let me CW> clean it up and I ?hatch? it to somewhere. CW> CW> Chuck CW> CW> p.s. Also have one to handle TIC files. how soon do you expect to hatch it? I'd rather do it in 20 seconds than a few hours. ttyl Jacobo ■ JFO ■ MS-DOS is CP/M on steroids. --- WM v3.10 [Eval]/93-8511 * Origin: Hack on the Beach BBS, Aruba (1:18/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TERRY BLOUNT Number: 1353 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 9:04a Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Jamieson wrote in a message to All: JJ> What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet JJ> Connect. PK361 dosen't want to do it. They are actually compressed with ARJ. Just rename them to .ARJ ren *.sdn *.arj --- timEd-A10c * Origin: Center of the Cosmos 205-824-2611 (1:3625/441) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MIKE PERKINS Number: 1354 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/18/93 11:33a Subj: Pcboard files on the file Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No @SUBJECT:PCBoard Files on the Filekbone N Boyd, My name is Mike Perkins. I'm half owner of the MindLess One's BBS along with Frank Salerno who has us singed up with you. I'm wondering what it would take to have PCBoard files from Mike Paschen added back on the filebone? I have seen some post on this and would just like to add our two cents in favor of it. Thanks Mike --- TosScan 1.00 * Origin: MindLess One's BBS, Weirton WV, U.S.A. (1:129/161) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1355 To: ROGER MORRIS Date: 12/18/93 9:20a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Roger Morris wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: RM> My record for Squish is 183 msgs/sec under DOS. That's with RM> a highly tweaked 486-33 operating as a peer server. My goal RM> is 200, but I've got other things to work on right now: with RM> everything located on a Novell server, I'm currently pushing RM> 40 msgs/sec. Still, that is excellant. RM> Maximus can be as pretty as you customize it to be; it's all RM> in the mecca scripts. I see that now, also nice with being able to add in the RIP. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1356 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/18/93 9:22a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Greg Shaffer wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: GS> Who on earth told you there were 7000 newsgroups? Well Greg, tell us then, just how many are there on a FULL feed? I have seen differnt figures everywhere, but most of my info comes from Boardwatch magazine. Now I know you will ask, "Oh, yeah, which issue was that in?" but don't bother because I can't remember. Regards, rhilg@freenet.scri.fsu.edu --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1357 To: ROGER MORRIS Date: 12/18/93 10:04p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No following up a message from Guy VanDell to Roger Morris: RM> My record for Squish is 183 msgs/sec under DOS. That's with RM> a highly tweaked 486-33 operating as a peer server. My goal RM> is 200, but I've got other things to work on right now: with RM> everything located on a Novell server, I'm currently pushing RM> 40 msgs/sec. GV> HOW DID YOU GET UP to 183 msgs/sec.. that's unbelievable, i GV> believe that that would be faster than my system to write to GV> the hard drive. I just finished processing all the mail and feeding downlinks. There where 29000+ messages and squish reported doing 3 per second. It took over 2 hours! How the heck did you get so much? What am I doing wrong? Are most of your areas passthrough? Are you feeding downlinks? Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1358 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/18/93 10:08p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Guy VanDell wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: GV> well if you have 5400 + 600 fido, you get 6000, not 7000 but GV> still close. Thank you Guy for explaining that to Greg. And if you add the qwk networks, you can easily see how I can arrive at 7,000. Don't forget that RIME is also a possibility. FWIW, I read that there are 7,400+ newsgroups and I WILL find the Boardwatch magazine that stated that figure. Of course it could have been a typo, or maybe even a misread on my part, but never the less, we will see more than 7,000 areas if we utilize ALL the mail that is coming in. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1359 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/18/93 10:15p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Laz Gottli wrote in a message to Todd Lyons: LG> Yes I was watching last night as well. I know I am dropping LG> pkzip 2.04 and moving back to 1.10 as it appears the zipping LG> is taking fo ever. Is ver1.10 really faster than 2.04? Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROBERT HILGAR Number: 1360 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 10:18p Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Jamieson wrote in a message to All: JJ> What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet JJ> Connect. PK361 dosen't want to do it. Use ARJ. Regards, Robert --- timEd-B9 * Origin: Cable Communication Systems * V32B 14.4/ZyXel 16.8 * (1:266/520) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1361 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/16/93 11:59p Subj: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hi Patty. Could you please respond to this message, I sent a message to Boyd in the hopes of getting a response as a test message, but as of yet, I have received nothing back from him. Thanks in advance. Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: C.S.R.N. BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1362 To: ALL Date: 12/17/93 8:14p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Could ANYONE please reply to this. Just a test. I have seen my users get replies and I am now beginning to feel left out :-[ Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: C.S.R.N. BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DENNIS POWERS Number: 1363 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 8:52p Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! 17 Dec 93, John Jamieson writes to All: JJ> What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet Connect. JJ> PK361 dosen't want to do it. ARJ it the new Archiver of choice for the SDN files. Dennis --- GoldED 2.40 * Origin: The Uncanny - X - Board Wolcott,Ct (203)879-7122 (1:141/1135) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1364 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 8:35p Subj: Re: .qwk packets Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello John! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/16/93> John Jamieson wrote: JJ> JL> JJ> TB> Does anyone out there have a .qwk packet to Hudson or JAM JJ> JL> messag JJ> Sorry about that, a screwup here, I sent you a copy and fixed things JJ> incase anone else goes for it. Thanks for alerting me to the problem. JJ> John Ya I have had that same thing happen here. Thanks very much. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Misspelled? Impossible. Error correcting modem! --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOE LYDA Number: 1365 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/18/93 8:37p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello Ervin! In a message to Joe Lyda <12/17/93> Ervin Jay wrote: EJ> Hello JOE! EJ> Wednesday December 15 1993, JOE LYDA writes to ERVIN JAY: EJ> EJ>> Does AreaFIX not have a "NewAreaCreate" verb?? EJ> JL> For Squish but for Gomail it does not create it correctly. If EJ> JL> anyone has a version of AREAFIX that does then give info on where EJ> JL> I can freq it. EJ> Ahh, I see the problem..... I would doubt there is an Areafix for GoMail EJ> It is unfortunate that it is not an Areafix cfriendly mail processor as EJ> NewAreasCreate is nice option to have... EJ> Cheers, Ervin Yes it is a very good option and other than that it works flawlessly in turning off/on for the downlinks here. Oh well someday. Joe * WCE 1.10/2107 * Never take a beer to a job interview. --- GOMail v1.2 [92-0081] * Origin: Net 3622 Echomail Corrdinator (1:3622/1000) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1366 To: PCBOARD OPS! Date: 12/16/93 9:42p Subj: A2C.EXE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Carving sound you heard was a letter being written for PCBoard Operators! I have a major amount of people trying to freq A2C.EXE from here. The following people have it online and Running: MySelf Geoff Lewis Bob Oyler I just called and uploaded to: 1:3619/1 - FL - Nice looking PCBoard Dude! (What all PPE's are u using?) 1:266/22 - NJ - Liked your Verification PGM (What is it?) Tried to upload it to (but is busy non-stop), will try later: 1:249/304 - OH -=- I am flipping the bill on this, since I am currently NOT allowing Freqs from my system. But I am sure you will enjoy enough the time A2C saves you so much, that you will register - hint hint :) OZZ HEY! Stop reading me!!! --- Moderation (v)erb - to limit!!! * Origin: PCBoard - No Freq's - >uSr_dS< 14.4k - (!<9600) (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1367 To: <YOU DUDE(ETTE)> Date: 12/17/93 1:32a Subj: RELEASE(S). Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Carving sound you heard was a letter being written for <You! AVAILABLE VIA NETMAIL REQUEST(S): A2C_OTW - AREAS LISTING TO PCBOARD CNAMES.@@@ CONVERT PGM. VTREE2.EXE - VISUAL STYLE TREE - BUT ALSO SHOWS # OF FILES & # BYTES PER DIR! TESTING TO RELEASE: (OR UPDATE WITH A NEW VERSION) CHKBOOK2.EXE - PERSONAL CHECKBOOK UTILITY. A QUICK/SIMPLE VERSION OF QUICKEN. (*) UNLIMITED CHECKING ACCOUNTS SUPPORTED! CODE3OF9.EXE - SIMPLE UTILITY TO PRINT BARCODES. (3 OF 9) (2 OF 5 SOON!) SMALLBIZ.ZIP - SMALL BUSINESS VERSION OF MY ACCOUNTING PACKAGE. (MAJOR KEWL!) RTP.ZIP - Rino Tic Processor - Getting out of the Beta! Finally! I have made some major changes to this one! Now it has a Setup PGM, and much much more! I got my hands on a package from Europe called "FileMgr" - They do TIC's to the limit over there! (One new thing - will allow NetMail - Rescan's of areas and/or files). ******************************************************************************* Another lame message, from the CrashGod... opps, CashGod... A few people have talked about wanting these type of utilities/apps. on the backbone, and I am releasing them. (Local's get to play 1st). A2C has already had $100.00's worth of registrations... Not a lot, but its such a simple utility its kewl to get $100.00 for it <G>! Vtree2 is part of the development towards the OTW DOS Commander (for Dummies). And the 3 Business Related Toys are just things Mike Hill and I have been talking about me releasing a "cheaper" version (I charge $7000.00 for the big version). Coming Soon - ChkUp.Exe (For All BBSes!) - A killer Upload Processor - NightDiver will be doing most of the "Art" work. It should be killer fast! Internal Support for (Arc, Lzh, Zip, Zoo, Arj). Supports Fossil/Direct, and is programmable (for what the users will see - you can draw your own "Art"). Again it will also Haul Ass Like RTP has been noted for... <G>! OZZ All generalizations are false. --- Moderation (v)erb - to limit!!! * Origin: What's Love got to do with it? >uSr_dS< (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1368 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/18/93 7:23p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Guy VanDell wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: GS> Who on earth told you there were 7000 newsgroups? GV> well if you have 5400 + 600 fido, you get 6000, not 7000 but GV> still close. GV> I still hold fast to the 5400 newsgroups, although some are GV> regionals, but we might as well get a full feed. If you say so..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1369 To: TIM BROWN Date: 12/18/93 7:24p Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Tim Brown wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: GS>Hello All! GS>Those of you are not real happy with PCUTIL or your own batchfile GS>implementation s for handling the files coming in over the satellite GS>without duping might want to take a look at SKYMAIL.ZIP TB> Looks good! Unfortunately I would have to run PCUTIL with TB> it as PCUTIL has a very nice echo processing option: NEXTx TB> which allows me to place my mail bundles in an intermediate TB> directory and move them a few at a time for unpacking. This You define the directory for Skymail to move the mail bundles to.....you can do whatever you like with them at that point..... TB> It would be nice for the missed files to also be written to TB> a second log so that it could be processed as file request TB> automatically. Just parse out the lines from the skymail.log using something like QSORT..... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1370 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 7:38p Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Jamieson wrote in a message to All: JJ> What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet JJ> Connect. PK361 dosen't want to do it. .ARJ greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 1371 To: GUY VANDELL Date: 12/19/93 1:25a Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Guy VanDell scripted in a message to Roger Morris: GV> HOW DID YOU GET UP to 183 msgs/sec.. Lots of RAM, dedicated as ramdisk and cache. And a fast drive / controller setup helps too. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEBASTIAN ACOSTA Number: 1372 To: TIM HELTON Date: 12/18/93 4:44p Subj: Moving South Refer: NONE Read: 12/20/93 8:17p Private: No TH> I'm moving from Atlanta to Miami. Can I use my 7 ft C-band system TH> that far south? The video says that I'll need a 10 ft dish.... Tim, no need to, I am in Miami and am hooked up to Planet Connect. Using a 7.5 ft Ku dish, by the way (just happened to have one handy). Keep my node number (135/94) for reference, and send me netmail when you get here! * MKRead v1.04 * A wise shepherd never trusts his flock to a smiling wolf. --- GEcho/RA 2.01 * Origin: Metro Data Group BBS HST/DS 21.6 Miami, Fl 305-378-2571 (1:135/94) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JOHN MORANO Number: 1373 To: LANCE TAYLOR-WARREN Date: 12/19/93 6:42p Subj: .BAG FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No LT> Works rather well. FREQ fqconfig.zip from my system for LT> sample batch files and configs. ...cut... Node 1:213/0 BinkleyTerm Version 2.58 19-Dec-93 16:28 Net 213 NC - Internet Gateway was unable to complete a file request made by your system, 1:391/1180, at this time. The request which failed was: FQCONFIG.ZIP The reason that the request was not satisfied at this time is that the requested file was not found. ...cut... Could you hatch this out over the PCUTILS file echo, I'm sure it would be of interest to more people then just me.... Thanks for your time. John..... --- RA 2.01/GEcho 1.01+ * Origin: The Genesis Project BBS * 501-267-9600 (1:391/1180) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GREG SHAFFER Number: 1374 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/19/93 6:00p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar wrote in a message to Greg Shaffer: RH> Greg Shaffer wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: GS> Who on earth told you there were 7000 newsgroups? RH> Well Greg, tell us then, just how many are there on RH> a FULL feed? I have seen differnt figures RH> everywhere, but most of my info comes from RH> Boardwatch magazine. Now I know you will ask, "Oh, RH> yeah, which issue was that in?" but don't bother because I RH> can't remember. There are a little under 2500...... greg.shaffer@f510.n370.z1.fidonet.org --- timEd-B9 * Origin: RC must stand for remote *CONTROL* (1:370/510) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1375 To: ERVIN JAY Date: 12/19/93 4:53p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNECT Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > ... Do married women make the best wives? > Why not? They get the most practice at it... ;-) --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1376 To: TODD LYONS Date: 12/19/93 4:55p Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No >> The receiver is apparantly a sensitive little jasper and should be kept >> away from *any* possible EMF. If this keeps up I'll have to build a >> Faraday cage around it. > > FWIW, I have my receiver above two computers and below a monitor. I > just don't get any errors. I have the C band receiver. Geez, my receiver sits right on top of my desktop 386 - no data problems at all... --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1377 To: THOMAS CHRISTOPH Date: 12/19/93 5:01p Subj: USENET NEWS FEEDS Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > I heard that there is going to be a full Usenet news feed on here in > January. Is this correct? If so, what will be involved in getting > that feed through the Planet Connect system? So far, Boyd is testing with alt.bbs (and perhaps others). We are all currently receiving PCUSENET.nnn files through the dish. These files contain *.BAG files, which can be imported/tossed into your bbs message base using whatever uuccp software you have handy. That takes care of the incoming mail. You will still need to make arrangements with either Boyd or a local internet site for your outbound mail.(and internet netmail). We haven't worked out all the logistics yet,,, we're looking for ideas, though... Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1378 To: SEAN BEGGS Date: 12/19/93 5:03p Subj: PLANET WIDE? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > Is this echo broadcast across the globe? I've only seen some > messages from a fairly limited geographical area. > > Oh, by the way: Hi. I'm new. Heh Welcome to the club. Say HI to teh SDN gang up there for me, and welcome to this club... North America only. That's the footprint of the bird. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHRIS WIESNER Number: 1379 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/19/93 5:05p Subj: SDN FILES Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > They are actually compressed with ARJ. Just rename them to .ARJ > > ren *.sdn *.arj Although this is something fairly easy to do, SDN files must carry the .SDN extension for at least 30 days before being renamed. Regards --- TMail v1.31.5 * Origin: CHANNEL-23 - Ottawa's FIRST Satellite system (1:243/23) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 1380 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 12/19/93 6:27p Subj: A2C.EXE Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Tried to upload it to (but is busy non-stop), will try later: -> -> 1:249/304 - OH Sorry OZZ, that's ON, Ontario. You did finally get through. Thanks. Now I just have to find the time to look at it. I can't even remember what it does now.... <G> Skaal, White Viking -}-----* *8) --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * Trenton ON (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JEFF OLESEN Number: 1381 To: ALL Date: 12/19/93 6:38p Subj: PCBoard Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Another message to ALL PCBoard Sysops: If you are looking for a fine tosser, check out QSCAN by Rob Kitteredge. It's part of his QFRONT package. I'm already running Intermail 2.25 so I didn't need QFRONT, but have been sorely hit for a good tosser. I registered FIDOPCB, but it has problems for a multi-net hub. Specifically, AKA's in the seen-by's. Anyway, QSCAN is completely uncrippled (QFRONT is the crippled part of the package) and is faster than a forest fire. Setup is slightly clunky, but I wrote a simple qbasic program (20 lines) to import my SQUISH.CFG file on a on-shot basis. This thing is good too. It sucks in the entire backbone from the satellite (7MB), tosses the whole thing locally, plus packs up about 4.5Mb for my local nodes in about 1.5 - 2.0 hours on a 386-33. Because it doesn't use file-attaches, I mangled the archiver entries and forced it to leave the packets as .PKT's. I then rename them to .OUT and make Squish pack them up for transmission. If anyone want's more details on this thing or the way I set it up, netmail me at 1:249/304. Skaal, White Viking -}-----* *8) --- QScan v1.02b * Origin: Viking's Cove BBS * Trenton ON (1:249/304) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MICHAEL REEVES Number: 1382 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 7:06p Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JJ>What do I use to unpak the SDN files transmitted by Planet Connect. >PK361 dosen't want to do it. JJ> John SDN switched from pak to arj. Michael Reeves ■ QMPro 1.51 ■ It's not hard to meet expenses, they're everywhere. --- WM v3.10/93-0334 * Origin: MIKE'S PLACE USR DS 16.8 (715 845-4802) (1:238/150) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL LARSON Number: 1383 To: SEAN BEGGS Date: 12/19/93 3:57a Subj: planet wide? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No SB>Is this echo broadcast across the globe? I've only seen some messages from SB>fairly limited geographical area. SB>--- Maximus/2 2.01wb SB> * Origin: *NETWORK23 WINNIPEG,MB (204) 275-1532 5 LINES* (89:720/203) all i know is that there is no zone 89 and that you should put your fidonet address in fidonet areas i think it is mandatory * OLX 2.1 TD * Juan Valdes dies: family says they will freeze dry! --- T.A.G. 2.6f2i Beta * Origin: EXCALIBER BBS 1-615-647-2572 14400BPS CLARKSVILLE,TN (1:3621/12) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAN WILLIAMSON Number: 1384 To: JOHN JAMIESON Date: 12/18/93 1:50p Subj: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Jamieson wrote in a message to All: JJ> Connect. PK361 dosen't want to do it. Use the most recent ARJ.EXE at your disposal. If it doesn't work grab the newest from a friendly BBS. I find that ARJ 2.41 works. Regards, Dan W. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Safe Harbour BBS [V.32bis/HST + Satellite] (1:3410/0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM FIERRO Number: 1385 To: OZZ NIXON Date: 12/17/93 9:11p Subj: UUCP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ON> e. Who all is running PCBoard with the DISH? I have been writing things ON> left and right for PCB, and want to know if there are any other utils I forgot ON> to put in my package... Well OZZ, I will be doing my site survey tommorow. Then I will know if the dish is suitable for my location. If so, I only need another $100 to order it. I am hoping to order in about 2-3 weeks. I run PCBoard here. I am a bit concerned about the newsgroups on the dish though. Limited newsgroups sound fine, but I don't know about putting a full feed on it unless it can somehow be compressed. I think that PageSat's system is running 45mb a day and just barely keeps up. I am not running it so don't know for sure, but if so, I would hate to give up the .QWK and FidoNet for newsgroups. I already get newsgroups here but would prefer dish feed if the bandwidth will allow it, not if it will take away from the current .QWK/FidoNet stuff coming through it. TRENDS! is coming to Sumner in February.....Be on the lookout!!! --- * RoseReader 2.10* P003065 Entered at [RACER] --- FidoPCB v1.5 beta-'e' * Origin: TRE! Node #2 * Sumner, WA * (206) 863-5877 * (1:138/165) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GEORGE VANDERVORT Number: 1386 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/19/93 7:40a Subj: AKA's in Seenby's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Everything is working fine here... Thanks for your Help.. BTW, I discovered a Solution to the Missing Mail that I was Sending to 3615/50, that did not show up on the backbone... I was un-aware that my Mail Processor was including ALL of my AKA's by Default to the SeenBy's even though I was ONLY using my Primary Node to Return mail to 3615/50. I checked the Doc's to my Mail Processor and discover how to keep the my AKA Addresses from being included in the Seenby's that I was sending back to 3615/50. Now all my outbound Backbone mail is showing up on the Backbone.. Regards, George Vandervort --- FreeMail/QuickBBS 2.80 (Beta-16 * Origin: Lounge Lizard's Retreat<tm> 512-357-6904 DS-HST V32bis (1:382/8) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TROLL Number: 1387 To: TEST Date: 12/19/93 2:16a Subj: test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No --- FreeMail 1.09 * Origin: The Blind Hog Saloon BBS * 1:3605/666 * (904) 926-7185 (1:3605/666) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: SEAN PEOPLES Number: 1388 To: DAVE OSBORNE Date: 12/18/93 5:23p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Dave Osborne wrote in a message to Sean Peoples: DO> Oh, that. It only applies to certain unrecognized EMIS DO> sequences that result in a lose of EMSI header info. The DO> connects still occur and run fine. Many of us have been DO> feeding Vince info on this trying to find the right set of DO> parameters. Ok, it's not clear from the WHATSNEW file that this is the case... DO> I'm beginning to think the problem with connecting to Boyd DO> may be ISDN related. The CONNECT 38400 back to Bink seems DO> to adjust some of the timers. Boyd's system is responding DO> slowly for some reason (probably LAN related) and Bink DO> doesn't wait long enough to negotiate the session. DO> Hopefully Vince is working on that as well. In the mean time, I believe there is a Binkley 2.50.EE.xx version out with ISDN support...Not sure if this will suit your needs or not, but it's a thought at least... Later... --- timEd-A10c * Origin: ThE .\SsYLuM MO // Cedar Hill, TX // (1:124/7026) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ROGER MORRIS Number: 1389 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/16/93 1:22p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Robert Hilgar scripted in a message to Todd Lyons: RH> Todd Lyons wrote in a message to Robert Hilgar: TL> I use TL> Fmail which is not JAM yet and it is the one that he quoted TL> doing 50 messages per second. With as much mail, as many TL> downlinks as I have, and across an arcnet network, I average TL> about 10 per second. My record for Squish is 183 msgs/sec under DOS. That's with a highly tweaked 486-33 operating as a peer server. My goal is 200, but I've got other things to work on right now: with everything located on a Novell server, I'm currently pushing 40 msgs/sec. RH> Well Maximus isn't the prettiest RH> BBS around, but it seems to fit our needs. Maximus can be as pretty as you customize it to be; it's all in the mecca scripts. RH> I just hate spending money on software RH> when it can be used for hardware. Yeah, there's no such thing as too much RAM. RH> Anyone else care to enlighten us RH> as to what problems or successes<sp> you are coming accross RH> with your current configuration? We (both Patty and myself) are having problems with AreaFix running across Novell, and no version of Binkley will run under Novell's VLM requester. Currently I'm using SEAL to replace AreaFix and Raid, but it's not working out too well. The PC software runs great under the VLMs, as it did under NetX and with all the recent versions of DOS tired here. Maximus handles the large number of file and message areas carried here, although we do need to break them down into groups for ease of reading. RH> I was surprised to see Patty Pickett go from RBBS to RH> Searchlight and now to Maximus. Perhaps she shares my views. Don't know about the views part, but Patty dropped RBBS because of internal problems with the development groups, and Searchlight because of it's technical limitations. I was running Max when we met, and that helped convince her to give it a try. (She was already looking at it ... ) For now Maximus suits our needs, but that doesn't mean it will tomorrow. ... Remus ... --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Strange Systems (1:380/25) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1390 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/19/93 11:30p Subj: What's this? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What are the HOLD & HOLD1 files? There were no where to be found in the download areas? And they certainly would have shut down Tic processing as Skymail never would have reported all received. ----------------------------------------------------------------------- 19-Dec-93 at 23:19:26 SkyMail v1.0 OnLine ------------------------------------------------------------------------ Processing Mail 0 Mail Files Moved to C:\IN_MAIL\ 10 Mail Files Deleted Processing Files 0 Other Files Moved to C:\IN_FILES\ 49 Other Files Deleted Updating C:\PLANETC\SKYMAIL.IDX Checking for Missing Mail & Files HOLD Not Recieved HOLD1 Not Recieved 2 out of 64 Total Files NOT Recieved. All Mail Files Recieved 19-Dec-93 at 23:20:00 SkyMail OffLine (8) --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1391 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/19/93 11:33p Subj: First files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No BTW, what am I missing at the very beginning of the download cycle? Once PCMAIN exits, it takes several minutes to move the files to processing directories and return to downloading. It always starts out in the middle of a file and thus never downloads it. What am I missing? It appears the TVAGENT stuff is the first stuff over, and if so I can afford to miss it. But just want to make certain. Also, this morning I saw an 0000ffff.SU? file that was listed as being 4meg+ in size and over 9000 blocks long. I thought, "DAMN! I'll never get that without errors! What the...." Yet when the download completed on the next cycle, there was not a 4 meg file there and they were all accounted for. Can this thing get scrambled on it's size estimates? Bugbustin' D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1392 To: GREG SHAFFER Date: 12/19/93 11:39p Subj: SkyMail v1.0 Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Please see my message to Boyd about the HOLD and HOLD1 files. I tried to add them to the 'exemptfile' list as 'HOLD.' and 'HOLD1.' but Skymail ignored the entries. They were in the UPLD list as 'HOLD' and 'HOLD1'.... now that I think about it, it's a text based comparison instead of a file based comparison isn't it. Anyway, these things sure plugged up the works. I've got a ways to go but I'm learning and this Skymail ditty sure made it easier. Thanks D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE OSBORNE Number: 1393 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/19/93 11:49p Subj: Status fields Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No One more thing..... What do the status fields indicate on the status display at the bottom of the screen? Blocks, Errors, CB and Sz are self-evident, but the PHs, PBs, CBs and T??s are a little more difficult. Thanks D. --- msgedsq 2.0.5 * Origin: Center Field, Hickory Hills, Tn., y'all! NEC123 (1:123/301.2) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: DAVE JAMES Number: 1394 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/20/93 6:34a Subj: .tic files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Hello boyd, Need some .tic files for the following... do you still have them? Can you put them on hold for me??? 12-19-19 LST 1032 AMSAT345 LZH 4663 ANART789 LZH 5359 ARLB116 LZH 894 ARLD068 LZH 615 ARLK052 LZH 2056 DX2TEXT ZIP 7729 FB310 SDA 1194 FB310 SDN 241293 IMPR9312 SDA 2166 IMPR9312 SDN 27915 IRRS_LNG LZH 1225 IRRS_PRG LZH 2029 IRRS_SCH LZH 1193 KRIS_JR1 SDA 1447 KRIS_JR1 SDN 123394 KRIS_JR2 SDN 150222 NECYAGIS ZIP 98195 OPDX-1 LZH 893 OPDX139 LZH 2437 PA1200B ZIP 93546 PCECAP30 SDA 3514 PCECAP30 SDN 178780 PCSWIN40 SDA 2921 PCSWIN40 SDN 301560 SPC1213 LZH 2721 TERG ZIP 14108 WGAMAIL ZIP 906918 Dave --- timEd-B9 * Origin: ─═[ 'dBest In The West, Western Star ]═─ (1:209/209) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: OZZ NIXON Number: 1395 To: TIM FIERRO Date: 12/20/93 8:14p Subj: UUCP Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No The Carving sound you heard was a letter being written for Tim! Friday December 17 1993, Tim Fierro writes to Ozz Nixon: ∙─═TF═─∙ Well OZZ, I will be doing my ∙─═TF═─∙ site survey tommorow. Then I ∙─═TF═─∙ will know if the dish is ∙─═TF═─∙ suitable for my location. If ∙─═TF═─∙ so, I only need another $100 to ∙─═TF═─∙ order it. I am hoping to order ∙─═TF═─∙ in about 2-3 weeks. Good luck! Its great! Many new programs come in every morning... ∙─═TF═─∙ I run PCBoard here. I am a bit ∙─═TF═─∙ concerned about the newsgroups ∙─═TF═─∙ on the dish though. Limited ∙─═TF═─∙ newsgroups sound fine, but I ∙─═TF═─∙ don't know about putting a full ∙─═TF═─∙ feed on it unless it can somehow ∙─═TF═─∙ be compressed. I think that ∙─═TF═─∙ PageSat's system is running 45mb ∙─═TF═─∙ a day and just barely keeps up. ∙─═TF═─∙ I am not running it so don't ∙─═TF═─∙ know for sure, but if so, I ∙─═TF═─∙ would hate to give up the .QWK ∙─═TF═─∙ and FidoNet for newsgroups. I ∙─═TF═─∙ already get newsgroups here but ∙─═TF═─∙ would prefer dish feed if the ∙─═TF═─∙ bandwidth will allow it, not if ∙─═TF═─∙ it will take away from the ∙─═TF═─∙ current .QWK/FidoNet stuff ∙─═TF═─∙ coming through it. Soon that will be resolved! I am talking with Bob Oyler over at DataBank. They will be my uplink - I am working on making sure I will be able to handle the *.BAG files. I have written for PCBoard a TIC processor that works! for one thing, and the second thing is it gives anyone running the DISH in a CRP enviroment a great way to make sure the files are not being handed out to anyone and everyone! RTP takes in the TIC file sends out with an encrypted RTP netmail with associated file(s) attached. It is extremely fast and supports all the local areas BBS software. It will import it into their BBS smoohtly! But back to the newsgroups - when I finish PCBYToss - One tosser will do QWK, PKT, and BAG - plus a few otehr formats. Which will help increase your processing speed. The size stuff will be cured soon! I am writing a DOOR for PCBoard - it uses LZH compressed msg bases for a BBS package I designed over the last 14 years! I sold the rights to my BBS package - but kept the rights to my thoeries! It will install seamless to PCBoard - and will appear as a normal part of the BBS - but adds some things PCBoard is a lil' behind on in the MSG area. Plus you won't have to use PCBNet to update the user mail flags :) And lastly - when you go live with the DISH I wrote a convert program that will take 4 standard AREAS LISTING files and generate a new CNAMES.@@@ for you - save major hours of typing! We are designing the "final" release right now, that will allow moving of conferences, deletion as the conference dies, plus it already adds the new areas automatically. (Thanks to Bob Oyler we now offer the ability to support d'bridge Areas.BBS format, and the ability to specify a starting conference # if you carry more than 1 net online). When you are ready send me netmail to 1:18/201 or 1:362/201 and I will send you a complete listing! I won't be releasing the lastest releases until January - about the time you jump in with us :) OZZ I drink, therefore I am. --- Moderation (v)erb - to limit!!! * Origin: >uSr_dS< 14.4k - i.e. (!<9600) (1:362/201) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 1396 To: ALL Date: 12/20/93 10:12p Subj: PC Usenet Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No What software would i need to use to start tossing the usenet feeds into RemoteAccess? Thanks, Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1397 To: PATTY PICKETT Date: 12/20/93 5:58p Subj: Re: Is anyone out there? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Well I dont mind. With me being single I have to sprouce up my -> > mintutes of free time a day. -> -> -> Geez, you mean you get 3 whole minutes of uninterrupted free time -> Boyd? We'll have to talk to your boss about that. <g> -> -> -> --)@ Patty @(-- -> NAAA!!!! Let 'm work !!! <GG!> --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1398 To: CHUCK WARREN Date: 12/20/93 6:02p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> ->Keith, -> -> I simply took FIDONET.NA and built a huge AREAS.BBS that included -> ->areas. Took about an hour and a half using TSE (Qedit on steroids), -> ->my downlinks can turn on any echo that's there. -> -> I wrote a program that will do it in about 15-20 seconds. Let me -> clean it up and I ?hatch? it to somewhere. -> -> Chuck -> -> p.s. Also have one to handle TIC files. -> Hi Chuck, Say, do ya have one that will automaticaly update the tic control file??? Right now, most of the stuff is passthrough, but when something new comes down the pipe, it winds up in my newareas area. Then I have to set up the thing manually. Can anyone else help me automate the adding of new file areas?? Thanks, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1399 To: TRACY MICKLEY Date: 12/20/93 6:10p Subj: ERROR BLOCK'S Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> jasper and should be kept away from *any* possible EMF. If this keeps -> have to build a Faraday cage around it. -> I have mine grounded and sealed in a plastic bag. Then I put it in the bottom of a 5gal bucket. Covered it with 12 inches of dirt to make sure I had a GOOD earth ground and finished by filling the bucket with water!!!.. Works GREAT!!! ;) Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1400 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/20/93 6:15p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Once, a long time ago, I considered using Wildcat and the reason I de -> to is that the file search function is -> s...l...o...w! If it were faster, (9 cd-rom drives) I might have gone -> -> -> Regards, -> Robert -> Bob, What ya using ?? I'm a 1.1 Wildcater, now using 3.55, but I too am looking for something better. Thanks, Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1401 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/20/93 6:17p Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> FS> This same system will be used when I am ready to accept -> FS> links to Rhub 13/24 (107/33). -> -> Fred could you put AREAFIX and your AREAFIX.CTL file where I can -> freq it for me. -> Joe -> Sorry for the delay in my answer. Will do soon as I can. Will let ya know. If next year gets here and you haven't heard from me, YELL!!! Fred --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: FRED SEIBEL Number: 1402 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/20/93 6:34p Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Could ANYONE please reply to this. Just a test. I have seen my us -> get replies and I am now beginning to feel left out :-[ -> -> -> Cheers! -> Tim Lajoie, -> SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net -> Knock Knock, Someone out there??? Guess not, Oh Well. --- WM v2.09/91-0063 * Origin: Central Jersey MicroConnection - Parlin, NJ. (1:107/600) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM JONES Number: 1403 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/19/93 4:32p Subj: Re: SDN files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > They are actually compressed with ARJ. Just rename > them to .ARJ You don't need to rename them...just furnish arj with the extension when you try to decompress them. Earlier (prior to June, 1993) SDN files used PAK. Tom --- ScanEd 1.53 * Origin: StarScan (sm) Montgomery AL (205) 279-7313 HST/DS (1:375/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TOM JONES Number: 1404 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/20/93 10:27p Subj: Missing TIC files Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Boyd, Seems to be several files (mostly SDN) being passed down without the TIC file. I have even included a batch command to copy all received TIC's to a separate directory before processing with PCUTIL just to be sure that they aren't somehow being deleted. Here is a listing as of today that I cannot find a matching TIC for: FB310 SDA IMPR9312 SDA KRIS_JR1 SDA PCSWIN40 SDA PCECAP30 SDA KRIS_JR1 SDN PCSWIN40 SDN PCECAP30 SDA KRIS_JR1 SDN PCSWIN40 SDN KRIS_JR2 SDN PCECAP30 SDN IMPR9312 SDN FB310 SDN Tom --- ScanEd 1.53 * Origin: StarScan (sm) Montgomery AL (205) 279-7313 HST/DS (1:375/1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 1405 To: ALL Date: 12/20/93 10:20p Subj: GEcho Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Are there any programs or utilities that will scan the badecho folder and autoadd those areas in GEcho? Or anything that will read in a fidonet.n? file, and autoadd those new areas into GEcho.. Seems that this mail tosser lacks the auto-add badecho feature, that some others have...<sigh> Oh, and are we allowed to post the weather maps for our users yet? I remember awhile ago the details were still being worked out... -AND- anyone have a list of the current usenet echos that are being broadcasted? So I can test them on my end. Will PC send usenet messages back onto the net, or must we find our own way back? Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: BILL WOLF Number: 1406 To: ALL Date: 12/20/93 11:10p Subj: Desqview Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Sorry for all the posts in a row here folks, but I'm still somewhat of a newbie in these parts...:) This problem involves DV.. It seems that after a while, the Pc software no longer is receiving the data from the dish. I know data is coming in, as the data light is flickering on the unit. I haven't been able to pin down the reason for the pc software not seeing the data.. The software doesn't lock up at all. All the pulldowns work fine. I just have to exit the program, and re-start it, and everything will start back up again... and it will last for a random amount of time. I'm running the data receiver unit on COM3, IRQ5, using the settings provided in the set-ini.doc file on the disk. the FIFO is turned on. Here are my settings: SKYPORT=3 SKYPORTBASE=3E8 SKYPORTVECTOR=0D SKYPORTIRQ=5 SKYPORTMASK=20 SKYPORTPIC=21 SKYFIFO=TRUE I don't think I have an interrupt conflict, as I've been able to hook up a modem to this com port, and dial out while a user is on the system. What are the recommended/suggested settings for running it under Dv? Must I configure it with X00? And what exactly is the proper command line for it? I haven't had any luck trying to configure this port, using the irq of 5. If anyone can help, please do! Thanks, Bill --- * Origin: Under The Influence 21.6k Dual [815] 942-2930 (1:2235/10) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: JERRY DUNLAP Number: 1407 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/20/93 6:22p Subj: Re: net messages Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No > > nodes on network workstations, likely diskless accessing a > relatively> busy server. Nodelists, etc are shared over the > network. (How close am > > Well each node has its own HD and copy of D'bridge. All each > system share is the session password file. D'bridge makes its > own nodelist database which is faster than accessing the > nodelist. Whne Jerry connects the hand-shaking and securety > checking only takes about 1.5 seconds. I'm having alittle trouble connecting to the ISDN line as well, Boyd. I'll see if Finney in Chattanooga is having the same problem and if he is, we'll get Bell to look at your trunk group. Did Joe get that packet sent off to Bell for the ISDN line to Knoxville? --- GEcho 1.00/beta * Origin: RxShop BBS - Nashville - 615-646-9481 V32/HST/ISDN (1:116/5000.1) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: GUY VANDELL Number: 1408 To: JOHN HERRBACH Date: 12/20/93 8:24p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No John Herrbach wrote in a message to Roger Morris: JH> Hello Roger, JH> On Dec. 16, 1993 at 13:22 , Roger Morris of 1:380/25 wrote: RM> My record for Squish is 183 msgs/sec under DOS. That's with a RM> highly tweaked 486-33 operating as a peer server. My goal is RM> 200, but I've got other things to work on right now: with RM> everything located on a Novell server, I'm currently pushing 40 RM> msgs/sec. JH> I thought I read that Squish has problems on fast machines, JH> was it related to dupe checking? I don't recall. You might JH> want to ask Scott Dudley. Running Squish too fast may lose JH> you some mail, as I recall. that's only under os/2.. --- timEd-B10 * Origin: Night Moves (1:116/80) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: MARGE CLARK Number: 1409 To: ROBERT HILGAR Date: 12/20/93 7:54p Subj: BBS Software Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No In a message posted on or about <Dec 18 22:15>, Robert Hilgar (1:266/520) > Is ver1.10 really faster than 2.04? not if you set it for maximum speed, rather than maximum compression. --- msged 2.06 * Origin: The Homestead (1:116/3000.5) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1410 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 12/20/93 6:24a Subj: AREAFIX AND PLANET CONNEC Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->how soon do you expect to hatch it? I'd rather do it in 20 seconds than ->a few hours. Someone asked me about adding GEcho support, so I was waiting for some info on it. Guess I could close out what I have (QuickBBS style) and add the other later. No sense delaying what others can use now. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1411 To: JACOBO ODUBER Date: 12/20/93 6:34a Subj: TIC's Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No ->I'll definitely be trying your batch file after doing some modifications ->to it. I didn't realize that you can put command line options for ->WCFILE. I wrote a program (WCTICK) that will write this batch file for you. FREQ: WCTICK Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: CHUCK WARREN Number: 1412 To: TIM LAJOIE Date: 12/20/93 6:35a Subj: Hello Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> Hi Patty. Could you please respond to this message, I sent a message ->to Boyd in the hopes of getting a response as a test message, but as of ->yet, I have received nothing back from him. Thanks in advance. Just in case, we have you in Middle Ga. Chuck --- WM v3.10/91-0206 * Origin: Code Plus BBS ■ 14.4k & Satellite! ■ 912-953-1053 (1:3611/15) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1413 To: BOYD GOODIN Date: 12/21/93 12:59a Subj: Re: 1st Transmit of the d Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> > Daily transmits start at 7:30am EST. -> -> Changed to 7:45 am eastern. Thanks for the update. BTW, am I correct to assume that at the start of the NEW daily feed, the feed does NOT stop, and just switches over from what is currently coming across and starts feeding the new info? If so, what are the chances of getting the feed start fresh so that we can get an errol level and drop out, as we do with the repeats? Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRNet BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: TIM LAJOIE Number: 1414 To: LAZ GOTTLI Date: 12/21/93 1:02a Subj: Test Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No -> OK Merry Christmas!! The feed appears to be working fine. Got you up And a Merry Christmas to you and EVERYONE reading this! BTW, I'm from Sault Ste. Marie, ONTARIO! -> Canada! Hmm... wonder if you are accepting return Internet bags? from -> origin line? I still need to get that set up over here. Actually, I am in the middle of figuring out how to work in my current feed to allow return services for the folks on here. I'll keep you posted! Cheers! Tim Lajoie, SysOp - The Collosus Soo Resource Net --- WM v3.10/92-0279 * Origin: CSRNet BBS, Over 5 Gigs Online + InterNet & Satellite! (1:222/21.0) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: ERIC FISHER Number: 1415 To: TERRY BLOUNT Date: 12/20/93 8:04p Subj: DO YOU HAVE THIS PROBLEM? Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No Terry Blount wrote in a message to ALL: TB> Can anyone check their log and see if the following mail TB> bundles were saved and processed? TB> 0000FFFF.THA TB> 0000FFFF.THB TB> 0000FFFF.FR0 TB> 0000FFFF.FRF TB> 0000FFFF.SA0 TB> 0000FFFF.SAA TB> I saw some of these bundles come in but they were NOT TB> written to my \files directory and therefore NEVER were TB> processed. Can you check your log and see if your system I have .FR0 thru .FRF and .SA0 thru .SAF here. They were tossed normally. I'm using PCCHECK... =Eric --- timEd/B8 * Origin: Parabolics Anonymous - Mesquite, TX (1:124/2105) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- From: RANDY BLACKMOND Number: 1416 To: JOE LYDA Date: 12/20/93 9:52p Subj: Dupe Loop Refer: NONE Read: [N/A] Private: No JL> Someone is making a dupe loop. Every message I reply to is duped JL> back to me the next day. There is several dupes coming in JL> lately. Seems like it started around 2 weeks ago. Is it JL> possible someone has their tosser configured to do this to us. My net just started receiving the sat. link not too long ago and this very subject crossed my